Titans fire Wisenhunt
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Coaching, players, it ALL matters and it impacts the wins and losses. Seattle won the Super Bowl with a bunch of late round and undrafted picks. Outside of Tom Brady and Gronk, who do the Patriots have on offense? Why is Dion Lewis so effective in New England when he got cut in Cleveland? Our. Coaches. Suck. They can't motivate. They can't scheme. If you think otherwise, you're the one who is mistaken.
Totally agree, "coaching, players it ALL matters", throw in ownership, GM, scouting, strength and conditioning coaches. it does all matter. The Pats WRs always seem to be open... Is that because some coach has the mystical, magical Xs and Os? Of course not, it's because they are freakin' good. Brady is the motor that makes that elite machine purr, no doubt, but don't be fooled - he has talent all around him.
Yes, you hit on Lewis being released by us and scooped up by the Pats, as well as Seattle's success. Anyone who watched Lewis run for us in pre-season saw what I saw, and thought "wow, there is our RB of the future"..... Well, apparently the Browns' GM didn't watch pre-season, and foolishly let yet another football player walk out the door.
In Seattle, the GM/scouts are obviously on top of their game, because they are drafting quality football players in all rounds of the draft, while the Browns draft 3, maybe 4 busts in the first round, and in only two years no less. The Browns go after the shinny, sparkly trinket, while Seattle goes after the iron hammer.
Pettine has made more than his fair share of mistakes, and he doesn't seem to be learning from them and that is troubling, but if we fire him on Friday morning, nothing will change, and the round-about will be reset yet again.
Farmer on the other hand, I could give 2 craps if he's fired today............ ooooohhhhhhhh he drafted Desir in the 35th round and he's a "quality NFL db" (LMAO - only for the 32nd ranked D is he a quality DB) big fucking deal. I'm sure Jimmy loves signing Bowe's check twice per month.
Totally agree, "coaching, players it ALL matters", throw in ownership, GM, scouting, strength and conditioning coaches. it does all matter. The Pats WRs always seem to be open... Is that because some coach has the mystical, magical Xs and Os? Of course not, it's because they are freakin' good. Brady is the motor that makes that elite machine purr, no doubt, but don't be fooled - he has talent all around him.
Welker is fantastic right now. So is Kenbrell Thompkins. You know, New England's leading receivers not named Gronk only a few short years ago.
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Totally agree, "coaching, players it ALL matters", throw in ownership, GM, scouting, strength and conditioning coaches. it does all matter. The Pats WRs always seem to be open... Is that because some coach has the mystical, magical Xs and Os? Of course not, it's because they are freakin' good. Brady is the motor that makes that elite machine purr, no doubt, but don't be fooled - he has talent all around him.
Welker is fantastic right now. So is Kenbrell Thompkins. You know, New England's leading receivers not named Gronk only a few short years ago.
Welker is fantastic right now. So is Kenbrell Thompkins. You know, New England's leading receivers not named Gronk only a few short years ago.
"a few short years ago" is a lifetime in the NFL, where the average career is only 3+ years long. That's why it's helpful to not miss on draft picks, especially 3-4 1st rounders in two years. That way when one of your talented vets moves on, you can replace him with a talented young guy...... You know, like we did with Gilbert.
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Welker is fantastic right now. So is Kenbrell Thompkins. You know, New England's leading receivers not named Gronk only a few short years ago.
"a few short years ago" is a lifetime in the NFL, where the average career is only 3+ years long. That's why it's helpful to not miss on draft picks, especially 3-4 1st rounders in two years. That way when one of your talented vets moves on, you can replace him with a talented young guy...... You know, like we did with Gilbert.
"a few short years ago" is a lifetime in the NFL, where the average career is only 3+ years long. That's why it's helpful to not miss on draft picks, especially 3-4 1st rounders in two years. That way when one of your talented vets moves on, you can replace him with a talented young guy...... You know, like we did with Gilbert.
The point is that these so called great receivers for the Patriots don't find the same success anywhere else, not how long ago they were great.
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We should fire Pettine and get him while we can.
We should fire Pettine and get him while we can.
You mean the guy who is 6-44 in his last 50 games? That's the guy you "fire the coach" morons want??? Jesus... Pettine won more games that this assclown in one year than he has in the last 3+ seasons.
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"a few short years ago" is a lifetime in the NFL, where the average career is only 3+ years long. That's why it's helpful to not miss on draft picks, especially 3-4 1st rounders in two years. That way when one of your talented vets moves on, you can replace him with a talented young guy...... You know, like we did with Gilbert.
The point is that these so called great receivers for the Patriots don't find the same success anywhere else, not how long ago they were great.
The point is that these so called great receivers for the Patriots don't find the same success anywhere else, not how long ago they were great.
Couldn't tell what your point was, but that isn't unusual.
And if you don't think Edelman is talented, then I don't know what to tell you.
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I wonder if the sports talk down there is wee wee wee no free agent for coaching candidate will ever come here again!
But it does seem like a pretty quick trigger for a guy in his situation.
(wasn't somebody here bitching that we should have hired him?)
WSS
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The point is that these so called great receivers for the Patriots don't find the same success anywhere else, not how long ago they were great.
Couldn't tell what your point was, but that isn't unusual.
And if you don't think Edelman is talented, then I don't know what to tell you.
Couldn't tell what your point was, but that isn't unusual.
And if you don't think Edelman is talented, then I don't know what to tell you.
Edelman is talented, but no moreso than Benjamin. Patriots don't break the bank for WR talent, because a smart QB makes any WR good.
On any given play that lasts four seconds, there's at least two instances of a WR being open, if even for a split second...it's just recognizing when and not forcing the issue. Theres multiple variations of "open", and it's not always just having a 5+ yard cushion on the nearest defender. Brady is adept at hitting receivers out of breaks, placing the ball in seams and throwing the ball just out of reach of trailing defenders. That's why New England experiences success with smaller, shiftier, no name receivers just as much as they do with Gronk, Moss, etc.
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there are literally dozens of upgrades over mike pettine. Whisenhunt wouldnt be my first pick, or even in my top ten......but he would be a massive upgrade over the waste of space that is Mike pettine.
Having read most of your subtle posts I am starting to think that maybe just maybe you don't like Mikethere are literally dozens of upgrades over mike pettine. Whisenhunt wouldnt be my first pick, or even in my top ten......but he would be a massive upgrade over the waste of space that is Mike pettine.
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Having read most of your subtle posts I am starting to think that maybe just maybe you don't like Mikethere are literally dozens of upgrades over mike pettine. Whisenhunt wouldnt be my first pick, or even in my top ten......but he would be a massive upgrade over the waste of space that is Mike pettine.
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alot of people here should take a walk down to your local hardware store and buy a 3' section of nylon cord, tie a noose around your neck, tie the other end to the dowel supporting your coats in the hall closet, close the door and hang yourselves.
at least the wife will come home to a nice surprise. yeah, the end of having to deal with your whining fucking assholish self.
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alot of people here should take a walk down to your local hardware store and buy a 3' section of nylon cord, tie a noose around your neck, tie the other end to the dowel supporting your coats in the hall closet, close the door and hang yourselves.
at least the wife will come home to a nice surprise. yeah, the end of having to deal with your whining fucking assholish self.
alot of people here should take a walk down to your local hardware store and buy a 3' section of nylon cord, tie a noose around your neck, tie the other end to the dowel supporting your coats in the hall closet, close the door and hang yourselves.
at least the wife will come home to a nice surprise. yeah, the end of having to deal with your whining fucking assholish self.
Ya think??
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