How do you think ManKok is doing so far?
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I give everyone using the name Mankok a D-.. As for Coach Mangini.. "I" for incomplete right now. Free agency is still going on.. the draft is a month away. Talk to me about the offseason grade in June before training camps start. I still believe there is still a lot of change coming this offseason to grade it now.
I give everyone using the name Mankok a D-.
Yip, tired of that one. It's worse than anything Phil and Romeo were called. KokiMan (kokee-mahn), Kok-genius, or just plain Mangini and Kokinis seems fine.
So far,
- I like the way they're not showing their cards to anyone. They came in and demanded leaks stop - and they did.
- I like the solid and affordable signings so far.
- I like the way they're not running after every media hyped free agent.
- I like the way Shaun Rogers is being handled. It seems like it all started with Rogers being childish about Mangini not noticing him. Whatever. Yes, there is more work needed to calm things down, but its not been at the Cutler level drama - as far as we can tell. Rough patches happen in life, so how you handle it is what matters. It seems they're doing a good job at not flaming the fire.
- I like the way they've handled to QB situation. If Mangini came out and publically said "Quinn's my guy, DA had his chance and he just doesn't have it", then DA's value would plummet even further. So far, so good.
B+ to this point.
If DA brings a 2nd or 3rd round pick for this year's draft, then A minus.
A good draft will bring a solid A grade for the off season, until the regular season starts. Only then will we really know.
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I like it. He is getting rid of the drama queens (the best he can). He's bringing in depth and build the team thorough the draft. I mean doing the exact opposite did not work for us last year, change is good. A-
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I give everyone using the name Mankok a D-.
Yip, tired of that one. It's worse than anything Phil and Romeo were called. KokiMan (kokee-mahn), Kok-genius, or just plain Mangini and Kokinis seems fine.
So far,
- I like the way they're not showing their cards to anyone. They came in and demanded leaks stop - and they did.
- I like the solid and affordable signings so far.
- I like the way they're not running after every media hyped free agent.
- I like the way Shaun Rogers is being handled. It seems like it all started with Rogers being childish about Mangini not noticing him. Whatever. Yes, there is more work needed to calm things down, but its not been at the Cutler level drama - as far as we can tell. Rough patches happen in life, so how you handle it is what matters. It seems they're doing a good job at not flaming the fire.
- I like the way they've handled to QB situation. If Mangini came out and publically said "Quinn's my guy, DA had his chance and he just doesn't have it", then DA's value would plummet even further. So far, so good.
B+ to this point.
If DA brings a 2nd or 3rd round pick for this year's draft, then A minus.
A good draft will bring a solid A grade for the off season, until the regular season starts. Only then will we really know.
Yip, tired of that one. It's worse than anything Phil and Romeo were called. KokiMan (kokee-mahn), Kok-genius, or just plain Mangini and Kokinis seem fine.
So far,
- I like the way they're not showing their cards to anyone. They came in and demanded leaks stop - and they did.
- I like the solid and affordable signings so far.
- I like the way they're not running after every media hyped free agent.
- I like the way Shaun Rogers is being handled. It seems like it all started with Rogers being childish about Mangini not noticing him. Whatever. Yes, there is more to calm down there, but its not been at the Cutler level drama - as far as we can tell. Rough patches happen in life, so how you handle it is what matters. It seems they're doing a good job at not flaming the fire.
- I like the way they've handled to QB situation. If Mangini came out and publically said "Quinn's my guy, DA had his chance and he just doesn't have it", then DA's value would plummet even further. So far, so good.
B+ to this point.
If DA brings a 2nd or 3rd round pick for this year's draft, then A minus.
A good draft will bring an A+, until the season starts. Only then will we really know.
Good post, especially concerning Rogers, Free Agency and the stupidy of Mankok
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I give everyone using the name Mankok a D-.. As for Coach Mangini.. "I" for incomplete right now. Free agency is still going on.. the draft is a month away. Talk to me about the offseason grade in June before training camps start. I still believe there is still a lot of change coming this offseason to grade it now.
I give everyone using the name Mankok a D-.. As for Coach Mangini.. "I" for incomplete right now. Free agency is still going on.. the draft is a month away. Talk to me about the offseason grade in June before training camps start. I still believe there is still a lot of change coming this offseason to grade it now.
I agree.
That or mangina shows some sort of sexual perversion or inferiority IMO.
Grow up or get some help.
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I give everyone using the name Mankok a D-.. As for Coach Mangini.. "I" for incomplete right now. Free agency is still going on.. the draft is a month away. Talk to me about the offseason grade in June before training camps start. I still believe there is still a lot of change coming this offseason to grade it now.
I agree.
That or mangina shows some sort of sexual perversion or inferiority IMO.
Grow up or get some help.
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Good God stop with the Man-ok reference....it is very odd and creepy
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It's way to early for this
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Wow - you guys are a little bit uptight an oversensitive huh?
How was I supposed to know there was so little interest in football in Cleveland these days that asking the question of how your coach and GM are doing was going to generate such in depth responses as:
"Incomplete" and
"Ask me after the season"
It sure is a fun and insightful board you guys have here.
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Wow - you guys are a little bit uptight an oversensitive huh?
How was I supposed to know there was so little interest in football in Cleveland these days that asking the question of how your coach and GM are doing was going to generate such in depth responses as:
"Incomplete" and
"Ask me after the season"
It sure is a fun and insightful board you guys have here.
Wow - you guys are a little bit uptight an oversensitive huh?
How was I supposed to know there was so little interest in football in Cleveland these days that asking the question of how your coach and GM are doing was going to generate such in depth responses as:
"Incomplete" and
"Ask me after the season"
It sure is a fun and insightful board you guys have here.
Maybe because you always reference "KOK" in your posts. That's disturbing
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Good God stop with the Man-ok reference....it is very odd and creepy
I've always pronounced (read) it Man-coke.
Combining names sounds too tabloidish for me, so I normally just go with Mangini & Kokinis
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Good God stop with the Man-ok reference....it is very odd and creepy
so is christopher walken but people still love him.
once a fan, always a fan. married to a steeler fan. aaaaaaaaah! --andy -
I like everything they have done so far with the exception of cutting Shaffer. I know why they did that as well as most of the other moves (read: cap space), but when that move came across the wire I immediately thought, "Who the hell is going to be our right tackle?" This just makes the draft more intriguing I guess.
Some people have been shouting that they don't get it, that they're blowing up the roster just to send a message. Wrong and wrong. Look closer, people. They are getting rid of a. guys either on ridiculous contracts or those who want them (Shaffer, Jones) b. guys whose primes are in the rearview mirror (Jurevicius, Davis) or c. guys who qualify under both a & b(Winslow). This both helps our cap situation and bolsters the draft.
Their free agent signings are simply short-term fillers and we won't take a cap hit with these guys.
What does it all mean? That Mangini and Kokinis recognize the importance of building a team via the draft. It also means that this team's draft history (save the '07 draft) needs to change for this team to have any hope of competing within the division. It also means that we are going to get younger before we get better. I know it is hard to expect patience, but I am looking forward to adding talented players in the draft and watching them inject some energy to this roster and grow into players who can compete with the Ravens and Steelers. In other words, we need to add more Joe Thomas's and Eric Wright's than Donte Stallworth's and Antwan Peek's. The draft, the draft, the draft.
I like everything they have done so far with the exception of cutting Shaffer. I know why they did that as well as most of the other moves (read: cap space), but when that move came across the wire I immediately thought, "Who the hell is going to be our right tackle?" This just makes the draft more intriguing I guess.
Some people have been shouting that they don't get it, that they're blowing up the roster just to send a message. Wrong and wrong. Look closer, people. They are getting rid of a. guys either on ridiculous contracts or those who want them (Shaffer, Jones) b. guys whose primes are in the rearview mirror (Jurevicius, Davis) or c. guys who qualify under both a & b(Winslow). This both helps our cap situation and bolsters the draft.
Their free agent signings are simply short-term fillers and we won't take a cap hit with these guys.
What does it all mean? That Mangini and Kokinis recognize the importance of building a team via the draft. It also means that this team's draft history (save the '07 draft) needs to change for this team to have any hope of competing within the division. It also means that we are going to get younger before we get better. I know it is hard to expect patience, but I am looking forward to adding talented players in the draft and watching them inject some energy to this roster and grow into players who can compete with the Ravens and Steelers. In other words, we need to add more Joe Thomas's and Eric Wright's than Donte Stallworth's and Antwan Peek's. The draft, the draft, the draft.
i disagree wholeheartedly about Shaffer-i believe it was about talent & versatility. the rest of the OL can play more than one position (it could be argued Thomas could physically play guard) but Shaffer couldn't even play LT. if the talent was there i doubt the $$ would have been a problem either. the OL guys who were brought in following that move can damn near provide depth at all 5 positions. Shaffer was a uni-tasker wayyyy past his prime.
and while that '07 draft might have been Savage's best it remains to be seen who will start at corner this year.
FA, trades, draft--they need to use them all not just the draft, that's why they're there. they all provide different levels of depth and successful teams use them all to build a contender.
talent seems to have taken a backseat to depth and versatility in kok/man year 1.
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I give everyone using the name Mankok a D-.. As for Coach Mangini.. "I" for incomplete right now. Free agency is still going on.. the draft is a month away. Talk to me about the offseason grade in June before training camps start. I still believe there is still a lot of change coming this offseason to grade it now.
I agree.
That or mangina shows some sort of sexual perversion or inferiority IMO.
Grow up or get some help.
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Wow - you guys are a little bit uptight an oversensitive huh?
How was I supposed to know there was so little interest in football in Cleveland these days that asking the question of how your coach and GM are doing was going to generate such in depth responses as:
"Incomplete" and
"Ask me after the season"
It sure is a fun and insightful board you guys have here.
Maybe because you always reference "KOK" in your posts. That's disturbing
Maybe because you always reference "KOK" in your posts. That's disturbing
Exactly
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Good God stop with the Man-ok reference....it is very odd and creepy
so is christopher walken but people still love him.
so is christopher walken but people still love him.
Yeech; very salient point
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Zombo said:
I'm impressed with Mangini because he's the first coach that brought his own private stalker to our board when he was hired.I'm impressed with Kokinis because Steeler and Patriot fans seem to think its pronounced "cock-in-ass" and they get all flushed.
Zombo
That was classic Zombo
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Maybe we can call it Koki-Man ?
Maybe we can call it Koki-Man ?
That sounds like some odd cartoon Lister Jr watched as a kid
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Maybe we can call it Koki-Man ?
That sounds like some odd cartoon Lister Jr watched as a kid
That sounds like some odd cartoon Lister Jr watched as a kid
As long as it sounds better than Man-Kok
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