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  • @sez.ej said:

    I give everyone using the name Mankok a D-.. As for Coach Mangini.. "I" for incomplete right now. Free agency is still going on.. the draft is a month away. Talk to me about the offseason grade in June before training camps start. I still believe there is still a lot of change coming this offseason to grade it now.

    I agree.

    That or mangina shows some sort of sexual perversion or inferiority IMO.

    Grow up or get some help.

    @ballpeen said:

    I agree.

    That or mangina shows some sort of sexual perversion or inferiority IMO.

    Grow up or get some help.

    Peen you always hit the nail on the head my friend

  • Good God stop with the Man-ok reference....it is very odd and creepy

  • I didn't personally like releasing Shaffer and JJ BUT Shaffer was overpaid and JJ might not be able to come back so both moves made sense from a financial standpoint.

  • It's way to early for this

  • Wow - you guys are a little bit uptight an oversensitive huh?

    How was I supposed to know there was so little interest in football in Cleveland these days that asking the question of how your coach and GM are doing was going to generate such in depth responses as:

    "Incomplete" and

    "Ask me after the season"

    It sure is a fun and insightful board you guys have here.

  • Wow - you guys are a little bit uptight an oversensitive huh?

    How was I supposed to know there was so little interest in football in Cleveland these days that asking the question of how your coach and GM are doing was going to generate such in depth responses as:

    "Incomplete" and

    "Ask me after the season"

    It sure is a fun and insightful board you guys have here.

    @joesixpat said:

    Wow - you guys are a little bit uptight an oversensitive huh?

    How was I supposed to know there was so little interest in football in Cleveland these days that asking the question of how your coach and GM are doing was going to generate such in depth responses as:

    "Incomplete" and

    "Ask me after the season"

    It sure is a fun and insightful board you guys have here.

    Maybe because you always reference "KOK" in your posts. That's disturbing

    😉😁

  • Good God stop with the Man-ok reference....it is very odd and creepy

    @listercat said:

    Good God stop with the Man-ok reference....it is very odd and creepy

    I've always pronounced (read) it Man-coke.

    Combining names sounds too tabloidish for me, so I normally just go with Mangini & Kokinis

  • Good God stop with the Man-ok reference....it is very odd and creepy

    @listercat said:

    Good God stop with the Man-ok reference....it is very odd and creepy

    so is christopher walken but people still love him.

  • I like everything they have done so far with the exception of cutting Shaffer. I know why they did that as well as most of the other moves (read: cap space), but when that move came across the wire I immediately thought, "Who the hell is going to be our right tackle?" This just makes the draft more intriguing I guess.

    Some people have been shouting that they don't get it, that they're blowing up the roster just to send a message. Wrong and wrong. Look closer, people. They are getting rid of a. guys either on ridiculous contracts or those who want them (Shaffer, Jones) b. guys whose primes are in the rearview mirror (Jurevicius, Davis) or c. guys who qualify under both a & b(Winslow). This both helps our cap situation and bolsters the draft.

    Their free agent signings are simply short-term fillers and we won't take a cap hit with these guys.

    What does it all mean? That Mangini and Kokinis recognize the importance of building a team via the draft. It also means that this team's draft history (save the '07 draft) needs to change for this team to have any hope of competing within the division. It also means that we are going to get younger before we get better. I know it is hard to expect patience, but I am looking forward to adding talented players in the draft and watching them inject some energy to this roster and grow into players who can compete with the Ravens and Steelers. In other words, we need to add more Joe Thomas's and Eric Wright's than Donte Stallworth's and Antwan Peek's. The draft, the draft, the draft.

    @nw-ohio-brownie said:

    I like everything they have done so far with the exception of cutting Shaffer. I know why they did that as well as most of the other moves (read: cap space), but when that move came across the wire I immediately thought, "Who the hell is going to be our right tackle?" This just makes the draft more intriguing I guess.

    Some people have been shouting that they don't get it, that they're blowing up the roster just to send a message. Wrong and wrong. Look closer, people. They are getting rid of a. guys either on ridiculous contracts or those who want them (Shaffer, Jones) b. guys whose primes are in the rearview mirror (Jurevicius, Davis) or c. guys who qualify under both a & b(Winslow). This both helps our cap situation and bolsters the draft.

    Their free agent signings are simply short-term fillers and we won't take a cap hit with these guys.

    What does it all mean? That Mangini and Kokinis recognize the importance of building a team via the draft. It also means that this team's draft history (save the '07 draft) needs to change for this team to have any hope of competing within the division. It also means that we are going to get younger before we get better. I know it is hard to expect patience, but I am looking forward to adding talented players in the draft and watching them inject some energy to this roster and grow into players who can compete with the Ravens and Steelers. In other words, we need to add more Joe Thomas's and Eric Wright's than Donte Stallworth's and Antwan Peek's. The draft, the draft, the draft.

    i disagree wholeheartedly about Shaffer-i believe it was about talent & versatility. the rest of the OL can play more than one position (it could be argued Thomas could physically play guard) but Shaffer couldn't even play LT. if the talent was there i doubt the $$ would have been a problem either. the OL guys who were brought in following that move can damn near provide depth at all 5 positions. Shaffer was a uni-tasker wayyyy past his prime.

    and while that '07 draft might have been Savage's best it remains to be seen who will start at corner this year.

    FA, trades, draft--they need to use them all not just the draft, that's why they're there. they all provide different levels of depth and successful teams use them all to build a contender.

    talent seems to have taken a backseat to depth and versatility in kok/man year 1.

  • @sez.ej said:

    I give everyone using the name Mankok a D-.. As for Coach Mangini.. "I" for incomplete right now. Free agency is still going on.. the draft is a month away. Talk to me about the offseason grade in June before training camps start. I still believe there is still a lot of change coming this offseason to grade it now.

    I agree.

    That or mangina shows some sort of sexual perversion or inferiority IMO.

    Grow up or get some help.

    @ballpeen said:

    I agree.

    That or mangina shows some sort of sexual perversion or inferiority IMO.

    Grow up or get some help.

    the national media adopted it first, it's already cliche to me. words are just letters until you empower them, right?

  • @joesixpat said:

    Wow - you guys are a little bit uptight an oversensitive huh?

    How was I supposed to know there was so little interest in football in Cleveland these days that asking the question of how your coach and GM are doing was going to generate such in depth responses as:

    "Incomplete" and

    "Ask me after the season"

    It sure is a fun and insightful board you guys have here.

    Maybe because you always reference "KOK" in your posts. That's disturbing

    😉😁

    @ytownbrownsbacker said:

    Maybe because you always reference "KOK" in your posts. That's disturbing

    😉😁

    Exactly

  • @listercat said:

    Good God stop with the Man-ok reference....it is very odd and creepy

    so is christopher walken but people still love him.

    @clevelandfanforlife said:

    so is christopher walken but people still love him.

    Yeech; very salient point

  • Zombo said:

    I'm impressed with Mangini because he's the first coach that brought his own private stalker to our board when he was hired.

    I'm impressed with Kokinis because Steeler and Patriot fans seem to think its pronounced "cock-in-ass" and they get all flushed.

    Zombo

    That was classic Zombo 😆

  • Maybe we can call it Koki-Man ?
  • Maybe we can call it Koki-Man ?

    @brownindian said:

    Maybe we can call it Koki-Man ?

    That sounds like some odd cartoon Lister Jr watched as a kid

  • @brownindian said:

    Maybe we can call it Koki-Man ?

    That sounds like some odd cartoon Lister Jr watched as a kid

    @listercat said:

    That sounds like some odd cartoon Lister Jr watched as a kid

    As long as it sounds better than Man-Kok 😆