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  • I would still go with a defensive player like Bosa or someone else with our 1st pick, but package up some picks with Dallas's 1st round pick and maybe get back into the top 10 or 15 and take a QB.....

  • MudflyM Mudfly

    Cowboys first round pick for Johnny?????........all in......100%....absofuckinglutely.....

    @mudfly said:

    Cowboys first round pick for Johnny?????........all in......100%....absofuckinglutely.....

    I think you're living in a dream land if you think Johnny is going to bring a first round pick.

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  • Mark OM Mark O

    @mudfly said:

    Cowboys first round pick for Johnny?????........all in......100%....absofuckinglutely.....

    I think you're living in a dream land if you think Johnny is going to bring a first round pick.

    @mark-o said:

    I think you're living in a dream land if you think Johnny is going to bring a first round pick.

    Hahahaha.....I dont believe he's worth it for a second......and didnt think so when he was picked either.....

    BUT.....if Jerry is gonna call him a "great one" and compare him with the Rapist....then HE must think he's worth it....right?

  • Mark OM Mark O

    @mudfly said:

    Cowboys first round pick for Johnny?????........all in......100%....absofuckinglutely.....

    I think you're living in a dream land if you think Johnny is going to bring a first round pick.

    @mark-o said:

    I think you're living in a dream land if you think Johnny is going to bring a first round pick.

    well if you go into negotiations with Jerrah and have that mentality, you'll be lucky to walk out with a pat on the back. You ask for their #1, and you squeeze him hard over it, than maybe throw in another lame player we all want out and see if he bites. At worse we get the boys 2nd rounder.

  • Jerrah has a kid to help keep him from making stupid deals now... dammit!

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  • Flyin JF Flyin J

    The problem is now wins only hurt us. McCown is getting us nowhere next year. Now is when we judge the roster for next year. If they arent in the plans for next year, they shouldnt be playing, regardless of position. Develop the future.

    @flyin-j said:

    The problem is now wins only hurt us. McCown is getting us nowhere next year. Now is when we judge the roster for next year. If they arent in the plans for next year, they shouldnt be playing, regardless of position. Develop the future.

    I almost forgot that winning football games hurt franchises. Better lose out so we can get a really good draft pick.....again. Sure glad you would steer this team away from LOSER mentalities like win any and every game. Better to worry about games 1.5 years in advance.

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  • So Pettine may have been right on Johnny at halftime

    Count me in as one of those ready to crucify Pettine for his halftime comments on Johnny but this film analysis supports Pettine's statements that Johnny was leaving a lot of plays on the field.

    SB Nation: Johnny Manziel isn't ready to start not even close

    Tour2maT 1 Reply

  • Yes, Pettine was right, and so is Zombo, when it comes to manziel. But I am going to merge this with because the article has already been posted and the other thread is still on the first page.

    Zombo

  • OK, Zombo missed that.

  • Fire O'Neill. Hire whoever the fuck else.

    Ship Manziel and Gordon and a third to Dallas for a first and a second.

    Cut Bowe. Let Mingo walk. Resign Barnidge and Benjamin.

    Draft Paxton Lynch with 1A. Draft Joey Bosa with our 1B. Yup, with our second first rounder.

    Draft Michael Thomas with 2A. Draft Carl Nassib with 2B.

    Trade our fourth and sixth to move up into the third and take Braxton Miller.

    Lose: shitty, undersized QB. Pothead WR.

    Gain: giant, decently mobile QB. Smart WR. Best pass rusher. Second best pass rusher. Braxton Miller.

    There you go.

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  • Ship Manziel and Gordon and a third to Dallas for a first and a second.

    I really don't think you are getting a 1st and 2nd for a midget QB that no one else wants and a wr that is one toke from a lifetime suspension. Even with the third thrown in.

    But the thought is nice.

    Zombo

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  • Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out

    Fire O'Neill. Hire whoever the fuck else.

    Ship Manziel and Gordon and a third to Dallas for a first and a second.

    Cut Bowe. Let Mingo walk. Resign Barnidge and Benjamin.

    Draft Paxton Lynch with 1A. Draft Joey Bosa with our 1B. Yup, with our second first rounder.

    Draft Michael Thomas with 2A. Draft Carl Nassib with 2B.

    Trade our fourth and sixth to move up into the third and take Braxton Miller.

    Lose: shitty, undersized QB. Pothead WR.

    Gain: giant, decently mobile QB. Smart WR. Best pass rusher. Second best pass rusher. Braxton Miller.

    There you go.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Fire O'Neill. Hire whoever the fuck else.

    Ship Manziel and Gordon and a third to Dallas for a first and a second.

    Cut Bowe. Let Mingo walk. Resign Barnidge and Benjamin.

    Draft Paxton Lynch with 1A. Draft Joey Bosa with our 1B. Yup, with our second first rounder.

    Draft Michael Thomas with 2A. Draft Carl Nassib with 2B.

    Trade our fourth and sixth to move up into the third and take Braxton Miller.

    Lose: shitty, undersized QB. Pothead WR.

    Gain: giant, decently mobile QB. Smart WR. Best pass rusher. Second best pass rusher. Braxton Miller.

    There you go.

    That would be pretty excellent.

  • Jerry can have him outfight.. fuck him...

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  • Sell the poor kid to jones. Just get him out of here. The browns office clearly doesnt want him. Getting rid of him then becomes a win win. Take a third. Just get the guy out of cleveland and let him go somewhere else.

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  • Z Zombo
    Ship Manziel and Gordon and a third to Dallas for a first and a second.

    I really don't think you are getting a 1st and 2nd for a midget QB that no one else wants and a wr that is one toke from a lifetime suspension. Even with the third thrown in.

    But the thought is nice.

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    I really don't think you are getting a 1st and 2nd for a midget QB that no one else wants and a wr that is one toke from a lifetime suspension. Even with the third thrown in.

    But the thought is nice.

    Zombo

    Because my post reeked of logic...

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  • Manziel and Gordon to Dallas for half of their Cheerleaders

  • Just wait until next year when Manziel and Gordon get to finally play together and there is NO WAY you'd give them up for 5 first rounders...

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  • PoeticGP PoeticG

    Just wait until next year when Manziel and Gordon get to finally play together and there is NO WAY you'd give them up for 5 first rounders...

    @poeticg said:

    Just wait until next year when Manziel and Gordon get to finally play together and there is NO WAY you'd give them up for 5 first rounders...

    You used up your luck on Derek Carr.. We don't need another Trent Richardson prediction!

  • M MDDawg

    So Pettine may have been right on Johnny at halftime

    Count me in as one of those ready to crucify Pettine for his halftime comments on Johnny but this film analysis supports Pettine's statements that Johnny was leaving a lot of plays on the field.

    SB Nation: Johnny Manziel isn't ready to start not even close

    @mddawg said:

    So Pettine may have been right on Johnny at halftime

    Count me in as one of those ready to crucify Pettine for his halftime comments on Johnny but this film analysis supports Pettine's statements that Johnny was leaving a lot of plays on the field.

    SB Nation: Johnny Manziel isn't ready to start not even close

    Wow... even I did not think JM was this bad...

    "On almost every one of Manziel's positive passing plays he actually also lost yards. The only passing plays where that wasn't the case were generally the screens that he threw. On plays where he had to actually decide who to throw to based on the route combinations and coverage, Manziel almost inevitably found ways to minimize the offense's production.

    By the end of the game it didn't look like any of his receivers were still running their routes as hard as they had been. Probably because at that point they were no longer expecting him to actually sit in the pocket and go through his reads which made their crisp routes null and void."

    Edit: A couple of the writer's "critiques" are a tad over-the-top, but others are valid.

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  • PoeticGP PoeticG

    Just wait until next year when Manziel and Gordon get to finally play together and there is NO WAY you'd give them up for 5 first rounders...

    @poeticg said:

    Just wait until next year when Manziel and Gordon get to finally play together and there is NO WAY you'd give them up for 5 first rounders...

    They played together last year.

    It was spectacular.

    Z

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