Bernie wants the job.....
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There are a few former players that are now a GM or involved with player acquisitions, but they are in the minority.
Off the top of my head I can only think of:
Marvin Lewis
Ozzy Newsome
John Elway
Ray Farmer
Steve Keim
Oh I wouldn't be surprised that many GM's had played some ball but I'm just saying a great player, which includes Ozzy and Elway, but...
( maybe your other three guys were great, I don't remember and too lazy to look them up)
WSS
( maybe your other three guys were great, I don't remember and too lazy to look them up)
WSS
Our pal Ray Farmer played 3 seasons and had 2 sacks, he was quite the player back in the day.
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Same can be said of 90% of the members here. Doesn't mean we are qualified to be GM.
How about GM by committee - vote on every single draft pick and roster decision...
Let's just go get bill belichick and skip the middle men.
While we're on the subject, Joe Thomas for GM when he retires, IMO.
We'll assume you are a no......
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I'm sorry but if you seriously think Bernie would make a good GM you are severely impaired. You have a man crush on a decent QB , a horrible businessman and a chemically addicted shell of a man. Given the choice of him or Manning if you choose him please give your keys to the designated driver immediately.
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I'm sorry but if you seriously think Bernie would make a good GM you are severely impaired. You have a man crush on a decent QB , a horrible businessman and a chemically addicted shell of a man. Given the choice of him or Manning if you choose him please give your keys to the designated driver immediately.
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If I owned the team, Bernie would have a role.
But I am a fan, and Jimmy owns the team. No way he would hand the team over to a guy who has been out of football for 20 years.
I think Bernie knows what the hell he is talking about ... but it doesn't matter. It's gonna be Jimmy and his guys.
Zombo
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@douche-nozzle said:
Watch your mouth punk! And there is no such thing, God loves winners and hates losers.......you'll enjoy hell......you're used to it
I think you are talking about Allah. Figures.
WSS
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You sensitive about all the raping that goes down over there? The only way out is through. Admit your rapiness and move on.@douche-nozzle said:
Are you 12?
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Come on guys, sign this. SHARE.
https://www.change.org/p/jimmy-haslam-bernie-kosar-for-cleveland-brown-s-general-manager
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BTW... how's the fund raising going to buy the team?
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Neither is Ray Farmer
more qualified than you or me OR bernie kosar. how many years has bernie put in as a scout in the NFL? (chirp. chirp.)
Elway & Ozzy are really the only 2 standouts as both players and GM's.
Keim was a lousy player but a pretty good GM (Arizona FO).
Marvin Lewis was an ok DB for the Jets, and probably a better personnel guy than HC.
Then we have Ray Farmer, who was a lousy linebacker and lousy GM.
was a lousy GM? i think he's still employed by the browns. and btw the manziel pick was not his but haslam's. can people get that through their heads?
Our pal Ray Farmer played 3 seasons and had 2 sacks, he was quite the player back in the day.
3 more seasons than you + 2 sacks. thank god we don't have idiots like you on the browns staff. yeah jimmy, not only take advice from a homeless guy when picking our next franchise QB, but let some loudmouth fan from columbus tell you how to run your biz. while jimmy is the 'real' col. sanders, you sir are a cheap unfunny or smart norm look-alike.
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The truth hurts d-noz. The only way out is through.
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el douche should google "nfl quarterbacks who assault women in restrooms"...
nah, he's a squealer fan, too cowardly.
Here ya go:
Accuser: Big Ben Assaulted Me in Bathroom |...www.tmz.com/...roethlisberger-bathroom-sexual-assault...Mar 04, 2010 ยท The woman accusing Ben Roethlisberger of sexual assault told police the whole thing went down inside the women's restroom of a Georgia nightclub. Law ...
Ben Roethlisberger Sexual Assault? Woman Accuses...www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/05/ben-roethlisberger...May 04, 2010 ยท A woman has accused Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger ... assault took place in the bathroom ... assault before: in 2009, awoman ...
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Neither is Ray Farmer
more qualified than you or me OR bernie kosar. how many years has bernie put in as a scout in the NFL? (chirp. chirp.)
Elway & Ozzy are really the only 2 standouts as both players and GM's.
Keim was a lousy player but a pretty good GM (Arizona FO).
Marvin Lewis was an ok DB for the Jets, and probably a better personnel guy than HC.
Then we have Ray Farmer, who was a lousy linebacker and lousy GM.
was a lousy GM? i think he's still employed by the browns. and btw the manziel pick was not his but haslam's. can people get that through their heads?
Our pal Ray Farmer played 3 seasons and had 2 sacks, he was quite the player back in the day.
3 more seasons than you + 2 sacks. thank god we don't have idiots like you on the browns staff. yeah jimmy, not only take advice from a homeless guy when picking our next franchise QB, but let some loudmouth fan from columbus tell you how to run your biz. while jimmy is the 'real' col. sanders, you sir are a cheap unfunny or smart norm look-alike.
3 more seasons than you + 2 sacks. thank god we don't have idiots like you on the browns staff. yeah jimmy, not only take advice from a homeless guy when picking our next franchise QB, but let some loudmouth fan from columbus tell you how to run your biz. while jimmy is the 'real' col. sanders, you sir are a cheap unfunny or smart norm look-alike.
What? In my post i gave no suggestion to hire Bernie or other advice for Jimmy, WSS said he didn't know how Ray Farmers playing career went, and I stated how it went.
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Neither is Ray Farmer
more qualified than you or me OR bernie kosar. how many years has bernie put in as a scout in the NFL? (chirp. chirp.)
Elway & Ozzy are really the only 2 standouts as both players and GM's.
Keim was a lousy player but a pretty good GM (Arizona FO).
Marvin Lewis was an ok DB for the Jets, and probably a better personnel guy than HC.
Then we have Ray Farmer, who was a lousy linebacker and lousy GM.
was a lousy GM? i think he's still employed by the browns. and btw the manziel pick was not his but haslam's. can people get that through their heads?
Our pal Ray Farmer played 3 seasons and had 2 sacks, he was quite the player back in the day.
3 more seasons than you + 2 sacks. thank god we don't have idiots like you on the browns staff. yeah jimmy, not only take advice from a homeless guy when picking our next franchise QB, but let some loudmouth fan from columbus tell you how to run your biz. while jimmy is the 'real' col. sanders, you sir are a cheap unfunny or smart norm look-alike.
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el douche should google "nfl quarterbacks who assault women in restrooms"...
nah, he's a squealer fan, too cowardly.
Here ya go:
Accuser: Big Ben Assaulted Me in Bathroom |...www.tmz.com/...roethlisberger-bathroom-sexual-assault...Mar 04, 2010 ยท The woman accusing Ben Roethlisberger of sexual assault told police the whole thing went down inside the women's restroom of a Georgia nightclub. Law ...
Ben Roethlisberger Sexual Assault? Woman Accuses...www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/05/ben-roethlisberger...May 04, 2010 ยท A woman has accused Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger ... assault took place in the bathroom ... assault before: in 2009, awoman ...
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Bernie's had alcohol related issues and lacks experience, no thanks
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Neither is Ray Farmer
more qualified than you or me OR bernie kosar. how many years has bernie put in as a scout in the NFL? (chirp. chirp.)
Elway & Ozzy are really the only 2 standouts as both players and GM's.
Keim was a lousy player but a pretty good GM (Arizona FO).
Marvin Lewis was an ok DB for the Jets, and probably a better personnel guy than HC.
Then we have Ray Farmer, who was a lousy linebacker and lousy GM.
was a lousy GM? i think he's still employed by the browns. and btw the manziel pick was not his but haslam's. can people get that through their heads?
Our pal Ray Farmer played 3 seasons and had 2 sacks, he was quite the player back in the day.
3 more seasons than you + 2 sacks. thank god we don't have idiots like you on the browns staff. yeah jimmy, not only take advice from a homeless guy when picking our next franchise QB, but let some loudmouth fan from columbus tell you how to run your biz. while jimmy is the 'real' col. sanders, you sir are a cheap unfunny or smart norm look-alike.
more qualified than you or me OR bernie kosar. how many years has bernie put in as a scout in the NFL? (chirp. chirp.)
More qualified than you or BK or myself...yes.
Is he any good at it....NO.
was a lousy GM? i think he's still employed by the browns. and btw the manziel pick was not his but haslam's. can people get that through their heads?
He was a lousy LB, and he IS a lousy GM.
The body of work speaks for itself mik.
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Ok Bernie lovers.....here it is....he says he can turn it around in 1-2 years or he'll fire himself.....
1) Do you think he actually can?
2) Would he get more "patience" than the Farmer? (or others before him)
3) Would he need rehab, ala Johnny, before coming in?...(serious question, btw)...
I know folks are talking we should hire Peyton Manning, so why not Bernie instead?....personally, I have no reason to believe Manning is GM material(or Bernie ftm)...
.....but I do know Bernie knows football and how to use players....just dont know if he can evaluate and pick em......
http://cleveland.cbslocal.com/2015/11/08/bernie-kosar-says-hire-me-to-fix-browns/
Ok Bernie lovers.....here it is....he says he can turn it around in 1-2 years or he'll fire himself.....
1) Do you think he actually can?
2) Would he get more "patience" than the Farmer? (or others before him)
3) Would he need rehab, ala Johnny, before coming in?...(serious question, btw)...
I know folks are talking we should hire Peyton Manning, so why not Bernie instead?....personally, I have no reason to believe Manning is GM material(or Bernie ftm)...
.....but I do know Bernie knows football and how to use players....just dont know if he can evaluate and pick em......
http://cleveland.cbslocal.com/2015/11/08/bernie-kosar-says-hire-me-to-fix-browns/
you make a great point...not sure if he can evaluate. guess the only way to find out is to hire him...mudfly, what the fuck else do we have to lose at this point? seriously
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Ozzie Mewsome has been terrific. Why not hire some former Browns?
We don't know for sure if other former players will do as well as ozzie. At this point, I'd give bernie a shot at some position at the end of the season. Why not? Everyone else has done such a fucking wonerful job up to this point...Yeah right...
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I think Weedon would do well. He has been with the Browns and been through it's QB wringer and fully understands what bad football really looks like.
I think Weedon would do well. He has been with the Browns and been through it's QB wringer and fully understands what bad football really looks like.
Exactly. He can then hire brady quinn as his assistant...hahahahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA...
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