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  • gftChrisG gftChris

    @canton-dawg said:

    Totally agree, Bernie has always been a "Cleveland Brown" and I believe he would hold the organization's best interest to heart.

    @mudfly said:

    I dont know either....but this is kind of how I feel.....

    He will at least give his heart and soul to the team.....and make all his decisions for the "right" reasons....

    Same can be said of 90% of the members here. Doesn't mean we are qualified to be GM.

    @gftchris said:

    Same can be said of 90% of the members here. Doesn't mean we are qualified to be GM.

    I don't know how he'd be as a GM- but OC?

    @gftchris said:

    Ha! Yeah, I'm not on board with it. He has no qualifications besides 'loves the browns' which he has in common with many.

    Dead serious about Joe Thomas though, you read his interviews and you can see there's a deep thinker in there.

    http://videos.cleveland.com/plain-dealer/2015/10/browns_joe_thomas_on_dt_vs_de.html

    Chris, you probably didn't get the preseason feeds when Bernie was the color commentator. The guy could see how a defense was set up against our offense. Heard him say more than once "that play's not going to work". POW.

  • Sure, he wants a job. So far he hasn't been a success in business.

    How often do star players become successful general managers? I think people would answer that question differently if it were another quarterback with his resume that sounded like they were brain damaged.

    Yes he would get a longer lease from Bernie fans around here. Quite possibly too long. Think about it. Why is no other football organization offered him a job within their program? And you know we'd have heard about it if they did.

    Rehab? We don't know that he is the kind of alcoholic that has to drink everyday. On the other hand if he's drunk when he's on the radio or TV that could easily be the case. Seems like if you could stay silver for a few hours a week airtime would be a good choice. Otherwise he's punchy.

    And like mud I have no reason to think that Peyton Manning would be suited for this job.

    One more time great players are rarely great coaches or office personnel unless somebody does the research to prove me wrong.

    WSS

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  • There are a few former players that are now a GM or involved with player acquisitions, but they are in the minority.

    Off the top of my head I can only think of:

    Marvin Lewis

    Ozzy Newsome

    John Elway

    Ray Farmer

    Steve Keim

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  • Yeah...we don't want Bernie in here. We're doing great without him. Sure...maybe he has forgotten more about football, and players with talent then we will ever know, but he talks funny. Let's just see what idiot we can lure into coming here as GM, that wants a lot of money. I'm sure that will work out better. Of course, we never really want to have a winning team....we wouldn't know how to act. Yeah...screw Bernie...that's the right mentality. Besides....he had several successful businesses, for 20+ years, then had to file bankruptcy after being way too generous helping his family and friends. What a jerk! I'm glad you geniuses saw through all this crap...I would have never figured it out. Who needs Bernie Kosar??...we had Mike Holmgren...self proclaimed qb guru, and we let him get away. Yep...I'm sure you guys are right...we're on the right track. It just takes time to build a mediocre team.

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  • Browns1216B Browns1216

    I would love having Bernie be involved, maybe not as GM but as some sort of consultant. I'm not sure how great he is at scouting talent but he is great at reading offenses and defenses and can really help our young coordinators out, especially O'Neil. This is a guy who actually does care for the Cleveland Browns and would help change the losing culture in the organization.

    @browns1216 said:

    I would love having Bernie be involved, maybe not as GM but as some sort of consultant.

    @westside-steve said:

    Sure, he wants a job. So far he hasn't been a success in business.

    How about Lead QB Scout?

    Here's the thing... a GM has a department to run and as WSS points out there has been zero evidence Bernie can do that. Also not sure what evidence he's shown that he can evaluate players beyond the QB position.

    Get him involved in some capacity that suits his skillset and see how he does. If the promise of more emerges...

    Even Ozzie was not handed the keys overnite. He worked in our and the Ravens's FO for 12 years before he was made GM.

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  • He needs to be asst offensive coordinator....

    to Flip.

    Let Kosar call the plays.

    Let him scout for the wr's in the draft.

    He would do a ton of great things for the Browns.

    And GM? In a freaking heartbeat.

  • There was a personnel director that stepped down a month ago that kept old browns players out since our return. Old browns were disgusted with new reshime.Hell yes you find Bernie a spot than hope more old browns players follow... Than Draft The Talent We Need to fix this mess. Can these coaches win with better talent? I got no for now...

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  • At this point what can it hurt? Seriously.

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  • There should be a running list of people who said "yes" to this, so that we have an official list of stupid people.

    I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride
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  • Canton DawgC Canton Dawg

    There are a few former players that are now a GM or involved with player acquisitions, but they are in the minority.

    Off the top of my head I can only think of:

    Marvin Lewis

    Ozzy Newsome

    John Elway

    Ray Farmer

    Steve Keim

    @canton-dawg said:

    There are a few former players that are now a GM or involved with player acquisitions, but they are in the minority.

    Off the top of my head I can only think of:

    Marvin Lewis

    Ozzy Newsome

    John Elway

    Ray Farmer

    Steve Keim

    Oh I wouldn't be surprised that many GM's had played some ball but I'm just saying a great player, which includes Ozzy and Elway, but...

    ( maybe your other three guys were great, I don't remember and too lazy to look them up)

    WSS

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  • @douche-nozzle said:

    I undersgtand the love affair with Kosar but there is nothing to suggest that he has the skill to be the "businessman" to fill this position. He was maybe a top ten QB in the 80's, and the darling on the only team to give Browns fans something to cheer about for the last 50 years, but that doesn't mean a thing when it comes to the position of GM of an NFL franchise.

    Nobody wants a goddamn steeler fan's opinion.

    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
  • C Clevfan4life

    At this point what can it hurt? Seriously.

    @clevfan4life said:

    At this point what can it hurt? Seriously.

    Another statement of, "let's take a chance (on somebody)

    Question: At least to the fans, is this organization THAT desperate?

    Answer: Clearly "Yes"

    Maybe Bernie should be 'shut off' by the organization in the same way they did it to Jim Brown (at least, temporarily).

    To me, he seems to be a 'charity' case in the same way Derek Sanderson was with the Bruins.

    I like Bernie. He played hard and gave fans many thrills.

    Let him be...........................

    "God is great. Beer is good. People are crazy."
  • W Westside Steve

    @canton-dawg said:

    There are a few former players that are now a GM or involved with player acquisitions, but they are in the minority.

    Off the top of my head I can only think of:

    Marvin Lewis

    Ozzy Newsome

    John Elway

    Ray Farmer

    Steve Keim

    Oh I wouldn't be surprised that many GM's had played some ball but I'm just saying a great player, which includes Ozzy and Elway, but...

    ( maybe your other three guys were great, I don't remember and too lazy to look them up)

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Oh I wouldn't be surprised that many GM's had played some ball but I'm just saying a great player, which includes Ozzy and Elway, but...

    ( maybe your other three guys were great, I don't remember and too lazy to look them up)

    WSS

    Plus I wonder if any of them, great average or suck had been out of professional football as long as Bernie.

    WSS

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  • Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out

    There should be a running list of people who said "yes" to this, so that we have an official list of stupid people.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    . I would go as far as stupid in saying bring him in after week 9 into bye. Name a gm that wants to be here ? & you don't start prepping a draft at the end of a season with no gm. Bernie can scout needs & Pet as a coach & his staff..
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  • W Westside Steve

    @canton-dawg said:

    There are a few former players that are now a GM or involved with player acquisitions, but they are in the minority.

    Off the top of my head I can only think of:

    Marvin Lewis

    Ozzy Newsome

    John Elway

    Ray Farmer

    Steve Keim

    Oh I wouldn't be surprised that many GM's had played some ball but I'm just saying a great player, which includes Ozzy and Elway, but...

    ( maybe your other three guys were great, I don't remember and too lazy to look them up)

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Oh I wouldn't be surprised that many GM's had played some ball but I'm just saying a great player, which includes Ozzy and Elway, but...

    ( maybe your other three guys were great, I don't remember and too lazy to look them up)

    WSS

    Elway & Ozzy are really the only 2 standouts as both players and GM's.

    Keim was a lousy player but a pretty good GM (Arizona FO).

    Marvin Lewis was an ok DB for the Jets, and probably a better personnel guy than HC.

    Then we have Ray Farmer, who was a lousy linebacker and lousy GM.

    Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney

  • Pretty sure the jury is still out on Elway as he has been GM less than two years...

    But even at that he was in a different Bronco role for 3 years and owned/ran the city's arena franchise for a few years before that... not to mention a number of local businesses.

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  • gumby73G gumby73

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    . I would go as far as stupid in saying bring him in after week 9 into bye. Name a gm that wants to be here ? & you don't start prepping a draft at the end of a season with no gm. Bernie can scout needs & Pet as a coach & his staff..

    @gumby73 said:

    . I would go as far as stupid in saying bring him in after week 9 into bye. Name a gm that wants to be here ? & you don't start prepping a draft at the end of a season with no gm. Bernie can scout needs & Pet as a coach & his staff..

    Except we have a GM...

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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    Pretty sure the jury is still out on Elway as he has been GM less than two years...

    But even at that he was in a different Bronco role for 3 years and owned/ran the city's arena franchise for a few years before that... not to mention a number of local businesses.

    @tour2ma said:

    Pretty sure the jury is still out on Elway as he has been GM less than two years...But even at that he was in a different Bronco role for 3 years and owned/ran the city's arena franchise for a few years before that... not to mention a number of local businesses.

    Elway has been in the Denver FO for like 4-5 years, but I'm not sure in what capacity.

    So I would have to agree with your assessment that the jury is still out on his GM duties.

    Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney

  • Ozzie Mewsome has been terrific. Why not hire some former Browns?

    DAMN THE TORPEDOES! FULL SPEED AHEAD!
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  • @douche-nozzle said:

    Watch your mouth punk! And there is no such thing, God loves winners and hates losers.......you'll enjoy hell......you're used to it 😁

    Say what? I've got the Cavs my friend. And the National champion buckeyes. You've got a state full of rape on both the college and professional level. But as far as steeler trolls go I usually hate you least.

    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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