Bernie wants the job.....
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I would love having Bernie be involved, maybe not as GM but as some sort of consultant. I'm not sure how great he is at scouting talent but he is great at reading offenses and defenses and can really help our young coordinators out, especially O'Neil. This is a guy who actually does care for the Cleveland Browns and would help change the losing culture in the organization.
I would love having Bernie be involved, maybe not as GM but as some sort of consultant.
Sure, he wants a job. So far he hasn't been a success in business.
How about Lead QB Scout?
Here's the thing... a GM has a department to run and as WSS points out there has been zero evidence Bernie can do that. Also not sure what evidence he's shown that he can evaluate players beyond the QB position.
Get him involved in some capacity that suits his skillset and see how he does. If the promise of more emerges...
Even Ozzie was not handed the keys overnite. He worked in our and the Ravens's FO for 12 years before he was made GM.
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He needs to be asst offensive coordinator....
to Flip.
Let Kosar call the plays.
Let him scout for the wr's in the draft.
He would do a ton of great things for the Browns.
And GM? In a freaking heartbeat.
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There was a personnel director that stepped down a month ago that kept old browns players out since our return. Old browns were disgusted with new reshime.Hell yes you find Bernie a spot than hope more old browns players follow... Than Draft The Talent We Need to fix this mess. Can these coaches win with better talent? I got no for now...
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At this point what can it hurt? Seriously.
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There should be a running list of people who said "yes" to this, so that we have an official list of stupid people.
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There are a few former players that are now a GM or involved with player acquisitions, but they are in the minority.
Off the top of my head I can only think of:
Marvin Lewis
Ozzy Newsome
John Elway
Ray Farmer
Steve Keim
There are a few former players that are now a GM or involved with player acquisitions, but they are in the minority.
Off the top of my head I can only think of:
Marvin Lewis
Ozzy Newsome
John Elway
Ray Farmer
Steve Keim
Oh I wouldn't be surprised that many GM's had played some ball but I'm just saying a great player, which includes Ozzy and Elway, but...
( maybe your other three guys were great, I don't remember and too lazy to look them up)
WSS
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@douche-nozzle said:
I undersgtand the love affair with Kosar but there is nothing to suggest that he has the skill to be the "businessman" to fill this position. He was maybe a top ten QB in the 80's, and the darling on the only team to give Browns fans something to cheer about for the last 50 years, but that doesn't mean a thing when it comes to the position of GM of an NFL franchise.
Nobody wants a goddamn steeler fan's opinion.
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At this point what can it hurt? Seriously.
At this point what can it hurt? Seriously.
Another statement of, "let's take a chance (on somebody)
Question: At least to the fans, is this organization THAT desperate?
Answer: Clearly "Yes"
Maybe Bernie should be 'shut off' by the organization in the same way they did it to Jim Brown (at least, temporarily).
To me, he seems to be a 'charity' case in the same way Derek Sanderson was with the Bruins.
I like Bernie. He played hard and gave fans many thrills.
Let him be...........................
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There are a few former players that are now a GM or involved with player acquisitions, but they are in the minority.
Off the top of my head I can only think of:
Marvin Lewis
Ozzy Newsome
John Elway
Ray Farmer
Steve Keim
Oh I wouldn't be surprised that many GM's had played some ball but I'm just saying a great player, which includes Ozzy and Elway, but...
( maybe your other three guys were great, I don't remember and too lazy to look them up)
WSS
Oh I wouldn't be surprised that many GM's had played some ball but I'm just saying a great player, which includes Ozzy and Elway, but...
( maybe your other three guys were great, I don't remember and too lazy to look them up)
WSS
Plus I wonder if any of them, great average or suck had been out of professional football as long as Bernie.
WSS
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There should be a running list of people who said "yes" to this, so that we have an official list of stupid people.
. I would go as far as stupid in saying bring him in after week 9 into bye. Name a gm that wants to be here ? & you don't start prepping a draft at the end of a season with no gm. Bernie can scout needs & Pet as a coach & his staff..
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There are a few former players that are now a GM or involved with player acquisitions, but they are in the minority.
Off the top of my head I can only think of:
Marvin Lewis
Ozzy Newsome
John Elway
Ray Farmer
Steve Keim
Oh I wouldn't be surprised that many GM's had played some ball but I'm just saying a great player, which includes Ozzy and Elway, but...
( maybe your other three guys were great, I don't remember and too lazy to look them up)
WSS
Elway & Ozzy are really the only 2 standouts as both players and GM's.Oh I wouldn't be surprised that many GM's had played some ball but I'm just saying a great player, which includes Ozzy and Elway, but...
( maybe your other three guys were great, I don't remember and too lazy to look them up)
WSS
Keim was a lousy player but a pretty good GM (Arizona FO).
Marvin Lewis was an ok DB for the Jets, and probably a better personnel guy than HC.
Then we have Ray Farmer, who was a lousy linebacker and lousy GM.
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Pretty sure the jury is still out on Elway as he has been GM less than two years...
But even at that he was in a different Bronco role for 3 years and owned/ran the city's arena franchise for a few years before that... not to mention a number of local businesses.
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. I would go as far as stupid in saying bring him in after week 9 into bye. Name a gm that wants to be here ? & you don't start prepping a draft at the end of a season with no gm. Bernie can scout needs & Pet as a coach & his staff..
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Pretty sure the jury is still out on Elway as he has been GM less than two years...
But even at that he was in a different Bronco role for 3 years and owned/ran the city's arena franchise for a few years before that... not to mention a number of local businesses.
Elway has been in the Denver FO for like 4-5 years, but I'm not sure in what capacity.Pretty sure the jury is still out on Elway as he has been GM less than two years...But even at that he was in a different Bronco role for 3 years and owned/ran the city's arena franchise for a few years before that... not to mention a number of local businesses.
So I would have to agree with your assessment that the jury is still out on his GM duties.
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@douche-nozzle said:
Watch your mouth punk! And there is no such thing, God loves winners and hates losers.......you'll enjoy hell......you're used to it
Say what? I've got the Cavs my friend. And the National champion buckeyes. You've got a state full of rape on both the college and professional level. But as far as steeler trolls go I usually hate you least.
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I would love having Bernie be involved, maybe not as GM but as some sort of consultant. I'm not sure how great he is at scouting talent but he is great at reading offenses and defenses and can really help our young coordinators out, especially O'Neil. This is a guy who actually does care for the Cleveland Browns and would help change the losing culture in the organization.
I would love having Bernie be involved, maybe not as GM but as some sort of consultant. I'm not sure how great he is at scouting talent but he is great at reading offenses and defenses and can really help our young coordinators out, especially O'Neil. This is a guy who actually does care for the Cleveland Browns and would help change the losing culture in the organization.
Agree 100%. Our inexperienced HC & Coordinators would benefit greatly from Bernie's input, IF they would accept & learn from it.
Mike
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Peyton is a publicity whore, for all his success I have never heard him share credit with the o line, wideouts, backs, coaches or any one else.
Bernie would be my choice as GM.
Peyton is a publicity whore, for all his success I have never heard him share credit with the o line, wideouts, backs, coaches or any one else.
Bernie would be my choice as GM.
Is this a joke? Peyton Manning is probably the most humble football player of all time..
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There are a few former players that are now a GM or involved with player acquisitions, but they are in the minority.
Off the top of my head I can only think of:
Marvin Lewis
Ozzy Newsome
John Elway
Ray Farmer
Steve Keim
Oh I wouldn't be surprised that many GM's had played some ball but I'm just saying a great player, which includes Ozzy and Elway, but...
( maybe your other three guys were great, I don't remember and too lazy to look them up)
WSS
( maybe your other three guys were great, I don't remember and too lazy to look them up)
WSS
Our pal Ray Farmer played 3 seasons and had 2 sacks, he was quite the player back in the day.
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Same can be said of 90% of the members here. Doesn't mean we are qualified to be GM.
How about GM by committee - vote on every single draft pick and roster decision...
Let's just go get bill belichick and skip the middle men.
While we're on the subject, Joe Thomas for GM when he retires, IMO.
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