Bernie wants the job.....
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There are a few former players that are now a GM or involved with player acquisitions, but they are in the minority.
Off the top of my head I can only think of:
Marvin Lewis
Ozzy Newsome
John Elway
Ray Farmer
Steve Keim
Oh I wouldn't be surprised that many GM's had played some ball but I'm just saying a great player, which includes Ozzy and Elway, but...
( maybe your other three guys were great, I don't remember and too lazy to look them up)
WSS
Oh I wouldn't be surprised that many GM's had played some ball but I'm just saying a great player, which includes Ozzy and Elway, but...
( maybe your other three guys were great, I don't remember and too lazy to look them up)
WSS
Plus I wonder if any of them, great average or suck had been out of professional football as long as Bernie.
WSS
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There should be a running list of people who said "yes" to this, so that we have an official list of stupid people.
. I would go as far as stupid in saying bring him in after week 9 into bye. Name a gm that wants to be here ? & you don't start prepping a draft at the end of a season with no gm. Bernie can scout needs & Pet as a coach & his staff..
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There are a few former players that are now a GM or involved with player acquisitions, but they are in the minority.
Off the top of my head I can only think of:
Marvin Lewis
Ozzy Newsome
John Elway
Ray Farmer
Steve Keim
Oh I wouldn't be surprised that many GM's had played some ball but I'm just saying a great player, which includes Ozzy and Elway, but...
( maybe your other three guys were great, I don't remember and too lazy to look them up)
WSS
Elway & Ozzy are really the only 2 standouts as both players and GM's.Oh I wouldn't be surprised that many GM's had played some ball but I'm just saying a great player, which includes Ozzy and Elway, but...
( maybe your other three guys were great, I don't remember and too lazy to look them up)
WSS
Keim was a lousy player but a pretty good GM (Arizona FO).
Marvin Lewis was an ok DB for the Jets, and probably a better personnel guy than HC.
Then we have Ray Farmer, who was a lousy linebacker and lousy GM.
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Pretty sure the jury is still out on Elway as he has been GM less than two years...
But even at that he was in a different Bronco role for 3 years and owned/ran the city's arena franchise for a few years before that... not to mention a number of local businesses.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
. I would go as far as stupid in saying bring him in after week 9 into bye. Name a gm that wants to be here ? & you don't start prepping a draft at the end of a season with no gm. Bernie can scout needs & Pet as a coach & his staff..
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Pretty sure the jury is still out on Elway as he has been GM less than two years...
But even at that he was in a different Bronco role for 3 years and owned/ran the city's arena franchise for a few years before that... not to mention a number of local businesses.
Elway has been in the Denver FO for like 4-5 years, but I'm not sure in what capacity.Pretty sure the jury is still out on Elway as he has been GM less than two years...But even at that he was in a different Bronco role for 3 years and owned/ran the city's arena franchise for a few years before that... not to mention a number of local businesses.
So I would have to agree with your assessment that the jury is still out on his GM duties.
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@douche-nozzle said:
Watch your mouth punk! And there is no such thing, God loves winners and hates losers.......you'll enjoy hell......you're used to it
Say what? I've got the Cavs my friend. And the National champion buckeyes. You've got a state full of rape on both the college and professional level. But as far as steeler trolls go I usually hate you least.
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I would love having Bernie be involved, maybe not as GM but as some sort of consultant. I'm not sure how great he is at scouting talent but he is great at reading offenses and defenses and can really help our young coordinators out, especially O'Neil. This is a guy who actually does care for the Cleveland Browns and would help change the losing culture in the organization.
I would love having Bernie be involved, maybe not as GM but as some sort of consultant. I'm not sure how great he is at scouting talent but he is great at reading offenses and defenses and can really help our young coordinators out, especially O'Neil. This is a guy who actually does care for the Cleveland Browns and would help change the losing culture in the organization.
Agree 100%. Our inexperienced HC & Coordinators would benefit greatly from Bernie's input, IF they would accept & learn from it.
Mike
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Peyton is a publicity whore, for all his success I have never heard him share credit with the o line, wideouts, backs, coaches or any one else.
Bernie would be my choice as GM.
Peyton is a publicity whore, for all his success I have never heard him share credit with the o line, wideouts, backs, coaches or any one else.
Bernie would be my choice as GM.
Is this a joke? Peyton Manning is probably the most humble football player of all time..
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There are a few former players that are now a GM or involved with player acquisitions, but they are in the minority.
Off the top of my head I can only think of:
Marvin Lewis
Ozzy Newsome
John Elway
Ray Farmer
Steve Keim
Oh I wouldn't be surprised that many GM's had played some ball but I'm just saying a great player, which includes Ozzy and Elway, but...
( maybe your other three guys were great, I don't remember and too lazy to look them up)
WSS
( maybe your other three guys were great, I don't remember and too lazy to look them up)
WSS
Our pal Ray Farmer played 3 seasons and had 2 sacks, he was quite the player back in the day.
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Same can be said of 90% of the members here. Doesn't mean we are qualified to be GM.
How about GM by committee - vote on every single draft pick and roster decision...
Let's just go get bill belichick and skip the middle men.
While we're on the subject, Joe Thomas for GM when he retires, IMO.
We'll assume you are a no......
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I'm sorry but if you seriously think Bernie would make a good GM you are severely impaired. You have a man crush on a decent QB , a horrible businessman and a chemically addicted shell of a man. Given the choice of him or Manning if you choose him please give your keys to the designated driver immediately.
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I'm sorry but if you seriously think Bernie would make a good GM you are severely impaired. You have a man crush on a decent QB , a horrible businessman and a chemically addicted shell of a man. Given the choice of him or Manning if you choose him please give your keys to the designated driver immediately.
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If I owned the team, Bernie would have a role.
But I am a fan, and Jimmy owns the team. No way he would hand the team over to a guy who has been out of football for 20 years.
I think Bernie knows what the hell he is talking about ... but it doesn't matter. It's gonna be Jimmy and his guys.
Zombo
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@douche-nozzle said:
Watch your mouth punk! And there is no such thing, God loves winners and hates losers.......you'll enjoy hell......you're used to it
I think you are talking about Allah. Figures.
WSS
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You sensitive about all the raping that goes down over there? The only way out is through. Admit your rapiness and move on.@douche-nozzle said:
Are you 12?
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Come on guys, sign this. SHARE.
https://www.change.org/p/jimmy-haslam-bernie-kosar-for-cleveland-brown-s-general-manager
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BTW... how's the fund raising going to buy the team?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Neither is Ray Farmer
more qualified than you or me OR bernie kosar. how many years has bernie put in as a scout in the NFL? (chirp. chirp.)
Elway & Ozzy are really the only 2 standouts as both players and GM's.
Keim was a lousy player but a pretty good GM (Arizona FO).
Marvin Lewis was an ok DB for the Jets, and probably a better personnel guy than HC.
Then we have Ray Farmer, who was a lousy linebacker and lousy GM.
was a lousy GM? i think he's still employed by the browns. and btw the manziel pick was not his but haslam's. can people get that through their heads?
Our pal Ray Farmer played 3 seasons and had 2 sacks, he was quite the player back in the day.
3 more seasons than you + 2 sacks. thank god we don't have idiots like you on the browns staff. yeah jimmy, not only take advice from a homeless guy when picking our next franchise QB, but let some loudmouth fan from columbus tell you how to run your biz. while jimmy is the 'real' col. sanders, you sir are a cheap unfunny or smart norm look-alike.
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