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  • MasterDog MasterDogM
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    MasterDogM MasterDog wrote on last edited by MasterDog
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    I find it funny how so many hated this guy on this board.

    It was Manziel Manziel and more Manziel.

    Carr is a stud.

    A cornerstone QB for the next decade.

    How da hell did we miss him?

    2 reasons.

    A homeless bum's advice.

    And a 'Wreck the league' phone call.

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      MasterDogM MasterDog wrote on last edited by
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      https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fancy-stats/wp/2015/11/10/derek-carr-is-a-top-five-nfl-qb-right-now-and-hes-the-reason-the-raiders-are-a-true-playoff-contender/

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      • hoortaH hoorta

        @canton-dawg said:

        When it comes down to drafting, a blind monkey throwing darts at a dartboard would do better.

        I truly believe the Trent Richardson pick will go down as a top ten draft mistake in the history of the NFL- pending on how Manziel does or doesn't pan out. Doubling down, and screwing up twice?

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        miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by miktoxic
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        @hoorta said:

        I truly believe the Trent Richardson pick will go down as a top ten draft mistake in the history of the NFL- pending on how Manziel does or doesn't pan out. Doubling down, and screwing up twice?

        don't know hoorta. are you talking about just the brown's org top ten or nfl top ten? cuz there's a boatload ahead of TR (which i didn't like as well).

        at least we didn't give up four picks to draft the guy and then have him on the bench as a 'jarred from subway' disciple wit.h a clipboard just getting paid for nuthin.

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          @hoorta said:

          I truly believe the Trent Richardson pick will go down as a top ten draft mistake in the history of the NFL- pending on how Manziel does or doesn't pan out. Doubling down, and screwing up twice?

          don't know hoorta. are you talking about just the brown's org top ten or nfl top ten? cuz there's a boatload ahead of TR (which i didn't like as well).

          at least we didn't give up four picks to draft the guy and then have him on the bench as a 'jarred from subway' disciple wit.h a clipboard just getting paid for nuthin.

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          Mark OM Mark O wrote on last edited by
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          @miktoxic said:

          at least we didn't give up four picks to draft the guy and then have him on the bench as a 'jarred from subway' disciple wit.h a clipboard just getting paid for nuthin.

          I'm not even sure the Redskins are letting RGIII hold a clipboard at this point.

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          • miktoxic miktoxicM
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            miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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            yeah you're right. i think he's playing some game from an app on his phone while dudes get busted up on the field.

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              @hoorta said:

              I truly believe the Trent Richardson pick will go down as a top ten draft mistake in the history of the NFL- pending on how Manziel does or doesn't pan out. Doubling down, and screwing up twice?

              don't know hoorta. are you talking about just the brown's org top ten or nfl top ten? cuz there's a boatload ahead of TR (which i didn't like as well).

              at least we didn't give up four picks to draft the guy and then have him on the bench as a 'jarred from subway' disciple wit.h a clipboard just getting paid for nuthin.

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              hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by hoorta
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              @miktoxic said:

              don't know hoorta. are you talking about just the brown's org top ten or nfl top ten? cuz there's a boatload ahead of TR (which i didn't like as well).

              at least we didn't give up four picks to draft the guy and then have him on the bench as a 'jarred from subway' disciple wit.h a clipboard just getting paid for nuthin.

              I'll stand by my assertion Mik. Now we do have Browns busts like Mike Junkin, and Craig Powell. (We didn't give up multiple picks however, and they both were drafted lower)

              Looking at Bleacher Report's top 50- that did jog my memory about some all time stinkers like Akilli "worm burner" Smith. (Credit that term to Sam Snead on golf- Akilli had a propensity to throw bullets into the dirt 5-10 yards in front of the intended receiver.)

              http://bleacherreport.com/articles/909380-the-50-biggest-nfl-draft-busts-of-all-time/page/51

              Trent belongs in that sucky company. They have Lawrence Phillips @ #4, Ki-Jana Carter @ #11, Blair Thomas @ #13, and Curtis Enis @ #22. I couldn't put Trent as better than any one of those bums. BTW, Enis only rushed for 400 yards less than Richardson, and had an identical 3.3 ypc.

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                @miktoxic said:

                don't know hoorta. are you talking about just the brown's org top ten or nfl top ten? cuz there's a boatload ahead of TR (which i didn't like as well).

                at least we didn't give up four picks to draft the guy and then have him on the bench as a 'jarred from subway' disciple wit.h a clipboard just getting paid for nuthin.

                I'll stand by my assertion Mik. Now we do have Browns busts like Mike Junkin, and Craig Powell. (We didn't give up multiple picks however, and they both were drafted lower)

                Looking at Bleacher Report's top 50- that did jog my memory about some all time stinkers like Akilli "worm burner" Smith. (Credit that term to Sam Snead on golf- Akilli had a propensity to throw bullets into the dirt 5-10 yards in front of the intended receiver.)

                http://bleacherreport.com/articles/909380-the-50-biggest-nfl-draft-busts-of-all-time/page/51

                Trent belongs in that sucky company. They have Lawrence Phillips @ #4, Ki-Jana Carter @ #11, Blair Thomas @ #13, and Curtis Enis @ #22. I couldn't put Trent as better than any one of those bums. BTW, Enis only rushed for 400 yards less than Richardson, and had an identical 3.3 ypc.

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                Mark OM Mark O wrote on last edited by
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                @hoorta said:

                http://bleacherreport.com/articles/909380-the-50-biggest-nfl-draft-busts-of-all-time/page/51

                Trent belongs in that sucky company. They have Lawrence Phillips @ #4, Ki-Jana Carter @ #11, Blair Thomas @ #13, and Curtis Enis @ #22. I couldn't put Trent as better than any one of those bums. BTW, Enis only rushed for 400 yards less than Richardson, and had an identical 3.3 ypc.

                In a lot of ways...he's worse than Ki-Jana and Enis because they both got hurt and were never the same (can't remember if that happened to Thomas as well). Trent is completely healthy, just not very good. Kinda like who's worse, Ryan Leaf or RGIII? Well.....RGIII got hurt and lost is biggest weapon. Leaf just sucks. I think the guys, like Richardson, who are completely healthy but out of the league are worse than the guys who can say that injury made them lose a step or more.

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                  miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                  in the browns org draft busts i'd prob rate him like 10 behind powell, weeden, brown, green, faine, wimbley, warren, quinn etc. etc.

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                  • miktoxicM miktoxic

                    in the browns org draft busts i'd prob rate him like 10 behind powell, weeden, brown, green, faine, wimbley, warren, quinn etc. etc.

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                    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
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                    @miktoxic said:

                    in the browns org draft busts i'd prob rate him like 10 behind powell, weeden, brown, green, faine, wimbley, warren, quinn etc. etc.

                    Junkin has to be #1, seven starts in his crummy career- and nothing else according to PFR. Courtney Brown made the BR list, as did Quinn.

                    Smokin' the Green is close in suckitude- but remember, we're talking lower drafted, and no picks thrown in to get the bum.

                    BTW, you're not considering what a player did AFTER they left the Browns, if you want to put Faine, Wimbley, and Warren on the list. They all had lengthy, if mediocre careers. Wimbley was still playing in 2014. Worth where they were drafted? Nope, but considering total career output- they certainly can't be labeled busts, if you hang around in the NFL for 9-10 seasons.

                    I've mentioned many times one of the things that pisses me off the most in the Browns history of drafting under performers- We took "Spare Change" Warren instead of the guy I wanted- Ladanian Tomlinson. So since we didn't get him- we made up for it next year by taking Willie Green.

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                      miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                      liked green. not talent wise....but at least he busted greg lloyd in the grill for talking shit before a game.

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                        Opal312O Opal312 wrote on last edited by
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                        Heading into week 10 he has 19 touchdowns and 2094 passing yards. He looks good too. Better than Bridgewater. The guy was the best of his class so far.

                        DAMN THE TORPEDOES! FULL SPEED AHEAD!
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                          L LondonBrown wrote on last edited by
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                          Teddy is never gonna be that good, he's smart but his arm is below average. He'll manage them well enough to win games but the type to be exposed at a critical time in the post season I think

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