Steeler Week
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Lol... the NFL recognizing the browns silly AAFC "championships" would be equivalent to the NFL accepting San Jose's Arena Football championships if they joined the NFL.
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Someone has been hitting the history books.Since the formation of the new league the Steelers have won more games than anyone having only 9 losing seasons.
And the very next line you denounce history.I'm living the greatness that are the Steelers and the only thing you got are history books.
Well which one is it?
Someone has been hitting the history books.
And the very next line you denounce history.
Well which one is it?
No history books needed.
And only 2 coaching changes needed. Impressive eh?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_standings_since_AFL–NFL_merger
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Let's see we had the 60's Chargers on roids, Mark Gastineau on roids, Lyle Alzado, the great Randy White, Charlie Waters, John Dutton and a few of their 70's cowboys teammates, Joe Klecko...
One in ten ex-NFL players admitted to using roids, and its usage was rampant during the 80s until it was banned in 1987.
Gee, I wonder why the 80's Steelers never won any Super Bowls.
2,552 former pro football players answered questions on their use of performance-enhancing steroids and the musculoskeletal injuries they suffered during their playing years.
Among the ex-players, 9.1 percent said they had used steroids.
Haters can't stand that the Steelers are winners and will forever cling to steroid usage (by a few offensive linemen) as a way to discredit the stellar achievements of this team.
Haters can't stand that the Steelers are winners and will forever cling to steroid usage (by a few offensive linemen) as a way to discredit the stellar achievements of this team.
I'm a hater but do understand they had a great run in the 70s thanks to a great defense (mainly).
However, part of my hate stems from the "breaks" they got along the way. Immaculate Reception, Renfro's catch, Jackie Smith's drop. As great as those Steeler teams were, even you have to admit those 3 plays had a big part in the history of the Steelers. Only Denver & New England have gotten similar "breaks" in the 45+ years I've been watching.
As time has gone on, my hatred is more for the Ratbirds than the Steelers. I grew up hating the Steelers, and it was just a plain old bitter rivalry. My sister married a Steeler fan and she's lived in Pittsburgh for about 30 years. I still hate, but they fell to #2 on the list.
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4 of those were in the AAFC, I challenge you to name all the teams in that league without looking it up. That would be a good topic for one of Zombo's trivia things.
Hint-there were only 8 teams
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8>6
Lol... the NFL recognizing the browns silly AAFC "championships" would be equivalent to the NFL accepting San Jose's Arena Football championships if they joined the NFL.
Lol... the NFL recognizing the browns silly AAFC "championships" would be equivalent to the NFL accepting San Jose's Arena Football championships if they joined the NFL.
The NFL does not recognize them but I agree with what you're saying.
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Lol... the NFL recognizing the browns silly AAFC "championships" would be equivalent to the NFL accepting San Jose's Arena Football championships if they joined the NFL.
The NFL does not recognize them but I agree with what you're saying.
The NFL does not recognize them but I agree with what you're saying.
The teams of the AAFC basically were of comparable quality to those of the NFL but, in the first 10 years of post-World War II pro football, the Cleveland Browns proved to be the best in either league. With such all-time greats as quarterback Otto Graham, fullback Marion Motley and tackle-kicker Lou Groza leading the way, Cleveland won all four AAFC championships and amassed a 52-4-3 winning record. When the AAFC folded after the 1949 season, many insisted a major reason was the Browns' dominance that eliminated any viable competition. The AAFC-NFL settlement called for the Browns, San Francisco 49ers and Baltimore Colts to join the NFL. Many NFL diehards, still not convinced the Browns were for real, expected Cleveland to fail badly when they played against the established NFL teams. But the Browns quickly proved their domination was no fluke by opening the 1950 season with a stunning 35-10 victory over the defending NFL champion Philadelphia Eagles
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Zombo said:
No, actually it doesn't.
Educate yourself on the greatness of that team.
You can start by googling "Paul Brown" and "Otto Graham".
Steeler fan mentality: "World War II doesnt count because it was in the 1940s. Today's armed forces would kill those clowns."
Z
So you think only Steeler fans don't give a fuck about your championships? Ask a Tampa Bay fan how much he cares about your championships. I'm sure he's much happier with his lone Super Bowl victory.
Even middle aged to young browns fans who have not experienced the thrill of being a winner in their entire lifetimes are tired of hearing about how great it was over 50 fuckin years ago... for someone else.
And you know what else I don't give a fuck about? That the Steeler sucked during their first 37 years of existence. Wasn't around to root for those teams.
Since the formation of the new league the Steelers have won more games than anyone having only 9 losing seasons.
I'm living the greatness that are the Steelers and the only thing you got are history books.
So you think only Steeler fans don't give a fuck about your championships? Ask a Tampa Bay fan how much he cares about your championships. I'm sure he's much happier with his lone Super Bowl victory.Even middle aged to young browns fans who have not experienced the thrill of being a winner in their entire lifetimes are tired of hearing about how great it was over 50 fuckin years ago... for someone else.And you know what else I don't give a fuck about? That the Steeler sucked during their first 37 years of existence. Wasn't around to root for those teams.Since the formation of the new league the Steelers have won more games than anyone having only 9 losing seasons.I'm living the greatness that are the Steelers and the only thing you got are history books.
Ok, Fucktard, here's the deal:
You have two choices....
1. Live in the past.
2, Live in the present.
If you choose to live in the past, you must include ALL of the past. That is ... Browns 8 titles in less years than it has taken Steelers to win 6 titles.
If you want to live in the present, then it is simply ... Browns with a one game winning streak.
What you CANNOT do, is cherrypick. I.E. "Let's choose 1970 as a starting point, because that supports my team".
That's gay ... and you damn well know it is gay.
So pick past or present, and be a man about it.
Z
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Good news Zombo!
James Harrison is hurt and isn't playing...you can safely run onto the field!
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Good news Zombo!
James Harrison is hurt and isn't playing...you can safely run onto the field!
Good news Zombo!
James Harrison is hurt and isn't playing...you can safely run onto the field!
yeah and james harrison is STILL paying that guy....
HA!!!!!!
a body slam = millionaire. any day of the week palsy.
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Good news Zombo!
James Harrison is hurt and isn't playing...you can safely run onto the field!
I didn't know the old fart was still playing.Good news Zombo!James Harrison is hurt and isn't playing...you can safely run onto the field!
I'll be sure to look for his wheelchair on the sidelines.
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I was 8 and living on the E side in 64 and got to watch many great Browns teams through the years. Now? I live on the state line...and every time we flush our toilet it goes straight down river to.... Well, thats why it's called pissburg! GO BROWNS!
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So you think only Steeler fans don't give a fuck about your championships? Ask a Tampa Bay fan how much he cares about your championships. I'm sure he's much happier with his lone Super Bowl victory.Even middle aged to young browns fans who have not experienced the thrill of being a winner in their entire lifetimes are tired of hearing about how great it was over 50 fuckin years ago... for someone else.And you know what else I don't give a fuck about? That the Steeler sucked during their first 37 years of existence. Wasn't around to root for those teams.Since the formation of the new league the Steelers have won more games than anyone having only 9 losing seasons.I'm living the greatness that are the Steelers and the only thing you got are history books.
Ok, Fucktard, here's the deal:
You have two choices....
1. Live in the past.
2, Live in the present.
If you choose to live in the past, you must include ALL of the past. That is ... Browns 8 titles in less years than it has taken Steelers to win 6 titles.
If you want to live in the present, then it is simply ... Browns with a one game winning streak.
What you CANNOT do, is cherrypick. I.E. "Let's choose 1970 as a starting point, because that supports my team".
That's gay ... and you damn well know it is gay.
So pick past or present, and be a man about it.
Z
Zombo said:
Ok, Fucktard, here's the deal:
You have two choices....
1. Live in the past.
2, Live in the present.
If you choose to live in the past, you must include ALL of the past. That is ... Browns 8 titles in less years than it has taken Steelers to win 6 titles.
If you want to live in the present, then it is simply ... Browns with a one game winning streak.
What you CANNOT do, is cherrypick. I.E. "Let's choose 1970 as a starting point, because that supports my team".
That's gay ... and you damn well know it is gay.
So pick past or present, and be a man about it.
Z
Only for the vast majority no one gives a damn about championships before the Super Bowl era when measuring Super Bowl era franchises. If I were a fan of any other team I would say the same thing. Teams now are measured by Super Bowl wins. If say ESPN does a graphic on teams without championships the Browns are always on the list. I'm not discrediting history or those pre merger wins, they certainly matter for historical purposes and team history. However if you talk about them you are a diehard browns fan or a purist, that's it.
AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month) -
Zombo said:
Ok, Fucktard, here's the deal:
You have two choices....
1. Live in the past.
2, Live in the present.
If you choose to live in the past, you must include ALL of the past. That is ... Browns 8 titles in less years than it has taken Steelers to win 6 titles.
If you want to live in the present, then it is simply ... Browns with a one game winning streak.
What you CANNOT do, is cherrypick. I.E. "Let's choose 1970 as a starting point, because that supports my team".
That's gay ... and you damn well know it is gay.
So pick past or present, and be a man about it.
Z
Only for the vast majority no one gives a damn about championships before the Super Bowl era when measuring Super Bowl era franchises. If I were a fan of any other team I would say the same thing. Teams now are measured by Super Bowl wins. If say ESPN does a graphic on teams without championships the Browns are always on the list. I'm not discrediting history or those pre merger wins, they certainly matter for historical purposes and team history. However if you talk about them you are a diehard browns fan or a purist, that's it.
Only for the vast majority no one gives a damn about championships before the Super Bowl era when measuring Super Bowl era franchises. If I were a fan of any other team I would say the same thing. Teams now are measured by Super Bowl wins. If say ESPN does a graphic on teams without championships the Browns are always on the list. I'm not discrediting history or those pre merger wins, they certainly matter for historical purposes and team history. However if you talk about them you are a diehard browns fan or a purist, that's it.
Vag's numbers and stats are funny in a pitiful way. And no matter what he comes up with...he still eats this fan's shit. I saw Browns teams that would have had ben the rat confessing to his felonies....and I shit in their water.....stat that asswipe
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Zombo said:
Ok, Fucktard, here's the deal:
You have two choices....
1. Live in the past.
2, Live in the present.
If you choose to live in the past, you must include ALL of the past. That is ... Browns 8 titles in less years than it has taken Steelers to win 6 titles.
If you want to live in the present, then it is simply ... Browns with a one game winning streak.
What you CANNOT do, is cherrypick. I.E. "Let's choose 1970 as a starting point, because that supports my team".
That's gay ... and you damn well know it is gay.
So pick past or present, and be a man about it.
Z
Only for the vast majority no one gives a damn about championships before the Super Bowl era when measuring Super Bowl era franchises. If I were a fan of any other team I would say the same thing. Teams now are measured by Super Bowl wins. If say ESPN does a graphic on teams without championships the Browns are always on the list. I'm not discrediting history or those pre merger wins, they certainly matter for historical purposes and team history. However if you talk about them you are a diehard browns fan or a purist, that's it.
Only for the vast majority no one gives a damn about championships before the Super Bowl era when measuring Super Bowl era franchises. If I were a fan of any other team I would say the same thing. Teams now are measured by Super Bowl wins. If say ESPN does a graphic on teams without championships the Browns are always on the list. I'm not discrediting history or those pre merger wins, they certainly matter for historical purposes and team history. However if you talk about them you are a diehard browns fan or a purist, that's it.
I think "vast majority" is a bit much ... and it doesn't make them right.
I actually hear "Cleveland hasn't won a championship since 1964" all the time, so I think that one counted.
Jim Brown counted. Paul Brown and Otto Graham counted too.
Vince Lombardi won 5 Championships in Green Bay not two.
Johnny Unitas is a three-time NFL champion, not a one-time Super Bowl Champion.
Yes, the media likes to over-simplify things and the sheep eat it up.
But it still happened. And loyal Browns (and Packers, Colts, Giants, etc.) fans have those bragging rights, and they always will.
Greatness is greatness.
It doesn't expire.
Zombo
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Lol... the NFL recognizing the browns silly AAFC "championships" would be equivalent to the NFL accepting San Jose's Arena Football championships if they joined the NFL.
Lol... the NFL recognizing the browns silly AAFC "championships" would be equivalent to the NFL accepting San Jose's Arena Football championships if they joined the NFL.
Not in anyway similar, arena league is a completely different game, while the AAFC and the NFL are the same game just different names....
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