Steeler Week
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4 of those were in the AAFC, I challenge you to name all the teams in that league without looking it up. That would be a good topic for one of Zombo's trivia things.
Hint-there were only 8 teams
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Lol... the NFL recognizing the browns silly AAFC "championships" would be equivalent to the NFL accepting San Jose's Arena Football championships if they joined the NFL.
Lol... the NFL recognizing the browns silly AAFC "championships" would be equivalent to the NFL accepting San Jose's Arena Football championships if they joined the NFL.
The NFL does not recognize them but I agree with what you're saying.
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Lol... the NFL recognizing the browns silly AAFC "championships" would be equivalent to the NFL accepting San Jose's Arena Football championships if they joined the NFL.
The NFL does not recognize them but I agree with what you're saying.
The NFL does not recognize them but I agree with what you're saying.
The teams of the AAFC basically were of comparable quality to those of the NFL but, in the first 10 years of post-World War II pro football, the Cleveland Browns proved to be the best in either league. With such all-time greats as quarterback Otto Graham, fullback Marion Motley and tackle-kicker Lou Groza leading the way, Cleveland won all four AAFC championships and amassed a 52-4-3 winning record. When the AAFC folded after the 1949 season, many insisted a major reason was the Browns' dominance that eliminated any viable competition. The AAFC-NFL settlement called for the Browns, San Francisco 49ers and Baltimore Colts to join the NFL. Many NFL diehards, still not convinced the Browns were for real, expected Cleveland to fail badly when they played against the established NFL teams. But the Browns quickly proved their domination was no fluke by opening the 1950 season with a stunning 35-10 victory over the defending NFL champion Philadelphia Eagles
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Zombo said:
No, actually it doesn't.
Educate yourself on the greatness of that team.
You can start by googling "Paul Brown" and "Otto Graham".
Steeler fan mentality: "World War II doesnt count because it was in the 1940s. Today's armed forces would kill those clowns."
Z
So you think only Steeler fans don't give a fuck about your championships? Ask a Tampa Bay fan how much he cares about your championships. I'm sure he's much happier with his lone Super Bowl victory.
Even middle aged to young browns fans who have not experienced the thrill of being a winner in their entire lifetimes are tired of hearing about how great it was over 50 fuckin years ago... for someone else.
And you know what else I don't give a fuck about? That the Steeler sucked during their first 37 years of existence. Wasn't around to root for those teams.
Since the formation of the new league the Steelers have won more games than anyone having only 9 losing seasons.
I'm living the greatness that are the Steelers and the only thing you got are history books.
So you think only Steeler fans don't give a fuck about your championships? Ask a Tampa Bay fan how much he cares about your championships. I'm sure he's much happier with his lone Super Bowl victory.Even middle aged to young browns fans who have not experienced the thrill of being a winner in their entire lifetimes are tired of hearing about how great it was over 50 fuckin years ago... for someone else.And you know what else I don't give a fuck about? That the Steeler sucked during their first 37 years of existence. Wasn't around to root for those teams.Since the formation of the new league the Steelers have won more games than anyone having only 9 losing seasons.I'm living the greatness that are the Steelers and the only thing you got are history books.
Ok, Fucktard, here's the deal:
You have two choices....
1. Live in the past.
2, Live in the present.
If you choose to live in the past, you must include ALL of the past. That is ... Browns 8 titles in less years than it has taken Steelers to win 6 titles.
If you want to live in the present, then it is simply ... Browns with a one game winning streak.
What you CANNOT do, is cherrypick. I.E. "Let's choose 1970 as a starting point, because that supports my team".
That's gay ... and you damn well know it is gay.
So pick past or present, and be a man about it.
Z
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Good news Zombo!
James Harrison is hurt and isn't playing...you can safely run onto the field!
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Good news Zombo!
James Harrison is hurt and isn't playing...you can safely run onto the field!
Good news Zombo!
James Harrison is hurt and isn't playing...you can safely run onto the field!
yeah and james harrison is STILL paying that guy....
HA!!!!!!
a body slam = millionaire. any day of the week palsy.
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Good news Zombo!
James Harrison is hurt and isn't playing...you can safely run onto the field!
I didn't know the old fart was still playing.Good news Zombo!James Harrison is hurt and isn't playing...you can safely run onto the field!
I'll be sure to look for his wheelchair on the sidelines.
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I was 8 and living on the E side in 64 and got to watch many great Browns teams through the years. Now? I live on the state line...and every time we flush our toilet it goes straight down river to.... Well, thats why it's called pissburg! GO BROWNS!
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So you think only Steeler fans don't give a fuck about your championships? Ask a Tampa Bay fan how much he cares about your championships. I'm sure he's much happier with his lone Super Bowl victory.Even middle aged to young browns fans who have not experienced the thrill of being a winner in their entire lifetimes are tired of hearing about how great it was over 50 fuckin years ago... for someone else.And you know what else I don't give a fuck about? That the Steeler sucked during their first 37 years of existence. Wasn't around to root for those teams.Since the formation of the new league the Steelers have won more games than anyone having only 9 losing seasons.I'm living the greatness that are the Steelers and the only thing you got are history books.
Ok, Fucktard, here's the deal:
You have two choices....
1. Live in the past.
2, Live in the present.
If you choose to live in the past, you must include ALL of the past. That is ... Browns 8 titles in less years than it has taken Steelers to win 6 titles.
If you want to live in the present, then it is simply ... Browns with a one game winning streak.
What you CANNOT do, is cherrypick. I.E. "Let's choose 1970 as a starting point, because that supports my team".
That's gay ... and you damn well know it is gay.
So pick past or present, and be a man about it.
Z
Zombo said:
Ok, Fucktard, here's the deal:
You have two choices....
1. Live in the past.
2, Live in the present.
If you choose to live in the past, you must include ALL of the past. That is ... Browns 8 titles in less years than it has taken Steelers to win 6 titles.
If you want to live in the present, then it is simply ... Browns with a one game winning streak.
What you CANNOT do, is cherrypick. I.E. "Let's choose 1970 as a starting point, because that supports my team".
That's gay ... and you damn well know it is gay.
So pick past or present, and be a man about it.
Z
Only for the vast majority no one gives a damn about championships before the Super Bowl era when measuring Super Bowl era franchises. If I were a fan of any other team I would say the same thing. Teams now are measured by Super Bowl wins. If say ESPN does a graphic on teams without championships the Browns are always on the list. I'm not discrediting history or those pre merger wins, they certainly matter for historical purposes and team history. However if you talk about them you are a diehard browns fan or a purist, that's it.
AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month) -
Zombo said:
Ok, Fucktard, here's the deal:
You have two choices....
1. Live in the past.
2, Live in the present.
If you choose to live in the past, you must include ALL of the past. That is ... Browns 8 titles in less years than it has taken Steelers to win 6 titles.
If you want to live in the present, then it is simply ... Browns with a one game winning streak.
What you CANNOT do, is cherrypick. I.E. "Let's choose 1970 as a starting point, because that supports my team".
That's gay ... and you damn well know it is gay.
So pick past or present, and be a man about it.
Z
Only for the vast majority no one gives a damn about championships before the Super Bowl era when measuring Super Bowl era franchises. If I were a fan of any other team I would say the same thing. Teams now are measured by Super Bowl wins. If say ESPN does a graphic on teams without championships the Browns are always on the list. I'm not discrediting history or those pre merger wins, they certainly matter for historical purposes and team history. However if you talk about them you are a diehard browns fan or a purist, that's it.
Only for the vast majority no one gives a damn about championships before the Super Bowl era when measuring Super Bowl era franchises. If I were a fan of any other team I would say the same thing. Teams now are measured by Super Bowl wins. If say ESPN does a graphic on teams without championships the Browns are always on the list. I'm not discrediting history or those pre merger wins, they certainly matter for historical purposes and team history. However if you talk about them you are a diehard browns fan or a purist, that's it.
Vag's numbers and stats are funny in a pitiful way. And no matter what he comes up with...he still eats this fan's shit. I saw Browns teams that would have had ben the rat confessing to his felonies....and I shit in their water.....stat that asswipe
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Zombo said:
Ok, Fucktard, here's the deal:
You have two choices....
1. Live in the past.
2, Live in the present.
If you choose to live in the past, you must include ALL of the past. That is ... Browns 8 titles in less years than it has taken Steelers to win 6 titles.
If you want to live in the present, then it is simply ... Browns with a one game winning streak.
What you CANNOT do, is cherrypick. I.E. "Let's choose 1970 as a starting point, because that supports my team".
That's gay ... and you damn well know it is gay.
So pick past or present, and be a man about it.
Z
Only for the vast majority no one gives a damn about championships before the Super Bowl era when measuring Super Bowl era franchises. If I were a fan of any other team I would say the same thing. Teams now are measured by Super Bowl wins. If say ESPN does a graphic on teams without championships the Browns are always on the list. I'm not discrediting history or those pre merger wins, they certainly matter for historical purposes and team history. However if you talk about them you are a diehard browns fan or a purist, that's it.
Only for the vast majority no one gives a damn about championships before the Super Bowl era when measuring Super Bowl era franchises. If I were a fan of any other team I would say the same thing. Teams now are measured by Super Bowl wins. If say ESPN does a graphic on teams without championships the Browns are always on the list. I'm not discrediting history or those pre merger wins, they certainly matter for historical purposes and team history. However if you talk about them you are a diehard browns fan or a purist, that's it.
I think "vast majority" is a bit much ... and it doesn't make them right.
I actually hear "Cleveland hasn't won a championship since 1964" all the time, so I think that one counted.
Jim Brown counted. Paul Brown and Otto Graham counted too.
Vince Lombardi won 5 Championships in Green Bay not two.
Johnny Unitas is a three-time NFL champion, not a one-time Super Bowl Champion.
Yes, the media likes to over-simplify things and the sheep eat it up.
But it still happened. And loyal Browns (and Packers, Colts, Giants, etc.) fans have those bragging rights, and they always will.
Greatness is greatness.
It doesn't expire.
Zombo
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Lol... the NFL recognizing the browns silly AAFC "championships" would be equivalent to the NFL accepting San Jose's Arena Football championships if they joined the NFL.
Lol... the NFL recognizing the browns silly AAFC "championships" would be equivalent to the NFL accepting San Jose's Arena Football championships if they joined the NFL.
Not in anyway similar, arena league is a completely different game, while the AAFC and the NFL are the same game just different names....
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Only for the vast majority no one gives a damn about championships before the Super Bowl era when measuring Super Bowl era franchises. If I were a fan of any other team I would say the same thing. Teams now are measured by Super Bowl wins. If say ESPN does a graphic on teams without championships the Browns are always on the list. I'm not discrediting history or those pre merger wins, they certainly matter for historical purposes and team history. However if you talk about them you are a diehard browns fan or a purist, that's it.
Vag's numbers and stats are funny in a pitiful way. And no matter what he comes up with...he still eats this fan's shit. I saw Browns teams that would have had ben the rat confessing to his felonies....and I shit in their water.....stat that asswipe
Vag's numbers and stats are funny in a pitiful way. And no matter what he comes up with...he still eats this fan's shit. I saw Browns teams that would have had ben the rat confessing to his felonies....and I shit in their water.....stat that asswipe
Numbers and stats? I didn't provide any. Find someone that isn't a browns fan that gives a damn about those premerger championships that isn't a football historian/purist.
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Vag's numbers and stats are funny in a pitiful way. And no matter what he comes up with...he still eats this fan's shit. I saw Browns teams that would have had ben the rat confessing to his felonies....and I shit in their water.....stat that asswipe
Numbers and stats? I didn't provide any. Find someone that isn't a browns fan that gives a damn about those premerger championships that isn't a football historian/purist.
Find someone that isn't a browns fan that gives a damn about those premerger championships
Id offer the same challenge.....find someone who's not a Stools fan who gives a damn about what happened in 1974...
Or, even better, find someone not named Vag who gives a damn about your opinion on anything...
Or....find someone who IS a Stools fan and isnt named Vag who gives a damn about posts on a Browns board...
Hey Fluges....nice action pics of the rapist...btw
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Lol... the NFL recognizing the browns silly AAFC "championships" would be equivalent to the NFL accepting San Jose's Arena Football championships if they joined the NFL.
Not in anyway similar, arena league is a completely different game, while the AAFC and the NFL are the same game just different names....
Not in anyway similar, arena league is a completely different game, while the AAFC and the NFL are the same game just different names....
They tend to forget the Browns were such an inferior team playing in the old AAFC, they won the championship every year, and when they "moved up" to the big bad NFL- they proceeded to win that Championship their first year. And won a bunch more in the next 5 years. The team was so inferior- six of those guys, plus the coach are in the HOF.
As Gipper pointed out- the only reason the NFL doesn't recognize the AAFC records is- Bert Bell the Commish at the time, was so poed that the Browns were showing up the NFL- he kept the AAFC records from counting. That league was no more inferior than the old AFL in it's formative years, and BTW all those 55-50 games from that era are counted in the NFL records.
So if Steeler fans are only interested in recent history- well the Patriots are the dominant franchise, not Ptttsburgh. They can go ahead and live in the glory days of the seventies- they're no more relevant now than Browns teams of the 50s. Speaking of- you'd have to be around fifty to actually remember that era.
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