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They need to call in the national guard and go full Kent State on this campuses

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  • Legacy FanL Legacy Fan

    @bbedward said:

    You will get into the debate and you will like it.

    Personally I think a public university (that receives heaps of state and federal dollars), like U of Minnesota, should recognize one of the biggest tragedies to happen to the US ever.

    Never forget 😉

    This is the correct take
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    @legacy-fan said:

    This is the correct take

    The thing Walter doesn't understand is you're allowed to have a different take like this algadi character - without being murdered like in the Kent state tragedy.

    Thinking like Walter is un-American to the highest degree.

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      Walter is an ass hole, no doubt.

      But the reason he pisses you off is because you kinda sorta agree with him. Come on tell me it wouldn't have been funny to see a baseball bat swing into that kid's face, the rotten little prick.

      Imagine if someone would have taken everybody's favorite tragedy, Kent State, and praise the guard for eliminating four white people. You would want him drawn and quartered.

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        flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug wrote on last edited by
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        Gun down unarmed students going to class? sounds like the OP would like to have an Isis day too. It is kinda funny/sad how strongly his low IQ shines

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          AxeA Axe wrote on last edited by
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          Dang!! This thread got a bit loose in the turn.. 😳

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            C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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            well, walter's posts tend to validate being taken out of context at times,,,

            then literally bad in context.

            And Tour, I respect that you were there the week before. But that isn't when the killings occured.

            Basing "murder" on the flower power environment a week before pretty much surprises me.

            They were NOT murders. Dirbag trouble makers/hippies, some/many from out of town - we never saw them before

            at any rally - incited a major confrontation... and they threw rocks. And...they were seen cleaning up

            the rocks into burlap bags after everything happened, after the Commons were vacated.

            And, a bunch of those rioters who wanted to make a national statement...are responsble for the accidental

            shootings - although I believe it was one National Guardsman that was hit with a rock - that ended up

            firing into the crowd.

            The deaths are solely on the hands of the dirtbag, dangerous rioters. I was there, with friends, taking pictures

            of the ROTC building that was burnt down. I took several pics of the National Guardsmen. We even talked to them -

            they were cool, didn't say much....

            That's arson, Tour. And throwing rocks?

            I went to school at Kent after those riots - for two years. I knew some anti-war leaders - I sat in the old student union

            one afternoon, talking to one of them a long time. He was devasted by the May 4th riots that got out of control the year before, that ended with the killings of four students. He resented the live ammo they had... but said the confrontation was never meant to

            end up with the large group of students and outsiders targeting the Guardsmen.

            Yeah, some of those who brought those bags of rocks, and were throwing them.... cleaned up the evidence to make the Nat. Guard look very guilty of oppression. It was self defense.

            Here's a key point, there were somewhere around 21 Guardsmen at one location - if they had all fired on students,

            there could easily have been 21 deaths "firing into the crowd" ...

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              C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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              On our way to my friend's socialogy class, we passed by the

              old maintainance building... and one lone National Guardsman

              was on duty there.

              Several jeeps and trucks were parked in the lower parking lot behind him.

              Two, really tall, really long haired hippie idiots walked up to him and got in

              his face, and when he continued to ignore them, they bumped into him,

              and he quietly retreated a step. They were giving him all sorts of crap,

              and we walked over to put a stop to it....when one tried to put a few pieces of

              gravel down his barrel, and the other was going to put a few dandelions with stems

              down his rifle barrel, and the guy finally whipped his rifle around and pointed it at them,

              and ordered them to back off. We just stood there, about 20 feet away by then, and they

              walked away fast, laughing.

              Poor protesters nothing. That was about two hours before the shootings.

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                C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                I still have those pics, in my old box of photos. I never forwarded them to anyone,

                for the simple reason that the pics were well before the deaths happened,

                and about the ROTC that burned to the ground.....

                that was Sat. night, I think. Way after the fact.

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                  C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                  can always count on cal for the inept revisionist take on something that has long been settled, from all sides. But no!!! cal knows all!!

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                    can always count on cal for the inept revisionist take on something that has long been settled, from all sides. But no!!! cal knows all!!

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                    @clevfan4life said:

                    can always count on cal for the inept revisionist take on something that has long been settled, from all sides. But no!!! cal knows all!!

                    Revisionist? Seems like we've turned this tragedy into a fable already.

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                      C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by calfoxwc
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                      How can it be revisionist when we were telling what really happened, ever since?

                      In 1973, I was in electronics training in Mississippi. A bunch of friends, including some

                      of them from the WAF squadron across the street, were having lunch one weekend..

                      and one of the newer guys went off when the subject got to Ohio, because I was, and

                      someone asked me about Kent State.

                      I was THERE on May 4, 1970.

                      He starts off saying that the National Guard were brutes, treating the students like

                      prisoners of war, beating them, etc etc etc. And the students rebelled against

                      getting beaten up, and the National Guard shot them for not shutting up.

                      That's what he said. I told everybody that that was a bunch of baloney. I told them the way

                      it really was, and he says that I'm a liar, because his cousin lived in Chillicothe, and he

                      told him all about it because he read a book on it.

                      I said that was a bunch of bs, and pulled out my Kent State ID card and told him he was lied to.

                      That was 1973. Today is 2015. You do the math, Cleve.

                      Liberals believe falsehoods are true, because it's politically expedient.

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