Halfway thru season
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First of all the bright spots which aren't many. Barnage is a great find along with Benjamin. Need to get the car running before we shop at the store. a nice boring draft. Trade down and stockpile some picks. Draft o line and d line.
I realize it's beating a dead horse but Maziel is going to be a good one. Why is it that any other qb can have growing pains except him? He can't even have a brew without someone up his ass. Oh it's ok that Winston throws a pick but Manziel throws one and he gets treated like dirt. End rant.
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First of all the bright spots which aren't many. Barnage is a great find along with Benjamin. Need to get the car running before we shop at the store. a nice boring draft. Trade down and stockpile some picks. Draft o line and d line.
I realize it's beating a dead horse but Maziel is going to be a good one. Why is it that any other qb can have growing pains except him? He can't even have a brew without someone up his ass. Oh it's ok that Winston throws a pick but Manziel throws one and he gets treated like dirt. End rant.
"One said:
First of all the bright spots which aren't many. Barnage is a great find along with Benjamin. Need to get the car running before we shop at the store. a nice boring draft. Trade down and stockpile some picks. Draft o line and d line.
I realize it's beating a dead horse but Maziel is going to be a good one. Why is it that any other qb can have growing pains except him? He can't even have a brew without someone up his ass. Oh it's ok that Winston throws a pick but Manziel throws one and he gets treated like dirt. End rant.
No one is hating Manziel for throwing picks. They hate him because he can't make simple reads and runs out of the pocket too quickly when receivers are open.
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First of all the bright spots which aren't many. Barnage is a great find along with Benjamin. Need to get the car running before we shop at the store. a nice boring draft. Trade down and stockpile some picks. Draft o line and d line.
I realize it's beating a dead horse but Maziel is going to be a good one. Why is it that any other qb can have growing pains except him? He can't even have a brew without someone up his ass. Oh it's ok that Winston throws a pick but Manziel throws one and he gets treated like dirt. End rant.
One Post From the Truth said:
First of all the bright spots which aren't many. Barnage is a great find along with Benjamin. Need to get the car running before we shop at the store. a nice boring draft. Trade down and stockpile some picks. Draft o line and d line.
I realize it's beating a dead horse but Maziel is going to be a good one. Why is it that any other qb can have growing pains except him? He can't even have a brew without someone up his ass. Oh it's ok that Winston throws a pick but Manziel throws one and he gets treated like dirt. End rant.
I agree & am another believer in Johnny. Manziel needs to play, not to show us what he can do, but to actually play & learn & progress from studying his OWN game film. None of those other QBs got where they are without time ON the field.
I would also like to see a stud linebacker, if there is one in this draft. Then I would like to see them play in a viable NFL defense, which we have yet to see.
Mike
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Young picks our nice to build on but you really got to start answering some questions about some veterans that our failing on this defense. We need experience FA's that can make a difference on tackling & pass rush than still let the 2015 draft picks grow. Jim O'Neil go coach college track, they even hand off batons

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One Post From the Truth said:
First of all the bright spots which aren't many. Barnage is a great find along with Benjamin. Need to get the car running before we shop at the store. a nice boring draft. Trade down and stockpile some picks. Draft o line and d line.
I realize it's beating a dead horse but Maziel is going to be a good one. Why is it that any other qb can have growing pains except him? He can't even have a brew without someone up his ass. Oh it's ok that Winston throws a pick but Manziel throws one and he gets treated like dirt. End rant.
I agree & am another believer in Johnny. Manziel needs to play, not to show us what he can do, but to actually play & learn & progress from studying his OWN game film. None of those other QBs got where they are without time ON the field.
I would also like to see a stud linebacker, if there is one in this draft. Then I would like to see them play in a viable NFL defense, which we have yet to see.
Mike
I agree & am another believer in Johnny. Manziel needs to play, not to show us what he can do, but to actually play & learn & progress from studying his OWN game film. None of those other QBs got where they are without time ON the field.
I would also like to see a stud linebacker, if there is one in this draft. Then I would like to see them play in a viable NFL defense, which we have yet to see.
Mike
You guys have been Browns fans way longer than I so I respect your opinion. But here's what I see..
The Browns overspent on McCown which forced their hand to play him. As for Pettine, he should play Manziel at least he would have an excuse for his losses. Getting no wins not playing Manziel is his own demise which wouldn't be such a bad thing.
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"One said:
First of all the bright spots which aren't many. Barnage is a great find along with Benjamin. Need to get the car running before we shop at the store. a nice boring draft. Trade down and stockpile some picks. Draft o line and d line.
I realize it's beating a dead horse but Maziel is going to be a good one. Why is it that any other qb can have growing pains except him? He can't even have a brew without someone up his ass. Oh it's ok that Winston throws a pick but Manziel throws one and he gets treated like dirt. End rant.
No one is hating Manziel for throwing picks. They hate him because he can't make simple reads and runs out of the pocket too quickly when receivers are open.
No one is hating Manziel for throwing picks. They hate him because he can't make simple reads and runs out of the pocket too quickly when receivers are open.
They drafted him. Yes he's a keeper and build the team around him. Plenty of successfully qb's out there that run. No film room is going to give any qb experience. At least try, if not its wasted time.
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First of all the bright spots which aren't many. Barnage is a great find along with Benjamin. Need to get the car running before we shop at the store. a nice boring draft. Trade down and stockpile some picks. Draft o line and d line.
I realize it's beating a dead horse but Maziel is going to be a good one. Why is it that any other qb can have growing pains except him? He can't even have a brew without someone up his ass. Oh it's ok that Winston throws a pick but Manziel throws one and he gets treated like dirt. End rant.
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One Post From the Truth said:
I realize it's beating a dead horse......
Yes it is.....(completely)....
But, hey, this thread didnt have a Johnny debate, so at least you fixed that.....

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Linebacker(s) with speed, ours are too slow
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Not sure about that, LB... outside of Kruger and Solomon, which of our LBs is slow?
I think the problem is tougher... we lack LBs with speed and power.
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