Jonathan Paul Manziel
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Manziel finished on 372 yards in only his 5th start. I like McCown, but I'd prefer to see Johnny next game.
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Johnny played good. I'd ride him for the rest of the season and let him get practical game experience.
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Who cares if mccown "gives us a better chance to win". The season is done. All winning will do is fuck the draft.
After that performance I'm not even sure mccown gives us a better chance to win.
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Johnny played fine and I'd like to see more of him, but McCown still plays with infinitely more heart.
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And for the love of christ hire Bernie kosar and give him some authority. Is he a drunk? Maybe. Is he punchy? Maybe. Does he understand football? Better than anyone the browns have hired in 15 years. Does he love the browns? Absolutely.
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Let's remember too we played a bad d and what happens 6 yards rushing what's that tell us oh yeah they do not fear Manziel pack the box make him throw he bad should have never got him we could of had Watkins bad pick again but let's slow down killing the offence there operating without a wr that can take the top of a d or requires two defenders it hurts the whole operation
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I certainly gained confidence the 1st play. Turnovers and falling over his own guys impressed the hell outa me
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Manziel finished on 372 yards in only his 5th start. I like McCown, but I'd prefer to see Johnny next game.
Manziel finished on 372 yards in only his 5th start. I like McCown, but I'd prefer to see Johnny next game.
You're gonna be more evil than ISIS on this board but I agree 100% with you.
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I saw johnny make a lot of good throws today. I don't know what the johnny haters were watching but I was watching a kid give his all to attempt to beat our nemesis.
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mccown is a gamer. looks like manziel might be too.
start manziel the rest of the year so a decision can finally be made and the nonsense in-fighting between fans/friends will stop.
it's as bad as talking politics and religion on here anymore.
give manziel an assault rifle, let him punch his drunk pregnant girlfriend in the gut while he's high and going into a grade school.......
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Walter,
+1 on this thread. Johnny wasn't the only one playing with heart, but the kid did the Browns proud today...certainly prouder than the vaunted 'defensive experts".
We're seeing this after just FIVE starts. Bortles, Bridgewater, & Carr each have had MANY more starts & each of them play under Offensive Coordinators with extensive experience as NFL Offensive Coordinators as opposed to Johnny playing under a ROOKIE NFL Offensive Coordinator with no previous experience calling plays at the NFL level.
For those who still dislike Johnny, please open your eyes & watch him play. You might even like what you see.
Mike
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Don't get me wrong. May as well play him....kinda like saying "hire the handicapped. They're fun to watch"
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And for the love of christ hire Bernie kosar and give him some authority. Is he a drunk? Maybe. Is he punchy? Maybe. Does he understand football? Better than anyone the browns have hired in 15 years. Does he love the browns? Absolutely.
And for the love of christ hire Bernie kosar and give him some authority.
didn't lerner try that with the most famous 'brown' of all?
how'd that work out?
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mccown is a gamer. looks like manziel might be too.
start manziel the rest of the year so a decision can finally be made and the nonsense in-fighting between fans/friends will stop.
it's as bad as talking politics and religion on here anymore.
give manziel an assault rifle, let him punch his drunk pregnant girlfriend in the gut while he's high and going into a grade school.......
mccown is a gamer. looks like manziel might be too.
start manziel the rest of the year so a decision can finally be made and the nonsense in-fighting between fans/friends will stop.
And because we clearly have so many holes to fill, it would be best for the team if Johnny can be the starter long term. I'm not sure if he can or not but it certainly would be better to not have to draft a QB next year and we can fill some of the damn holes on defense.
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And for the love of christ hire Bernie kosar and give him some authority.
didn't lerner try that with the most famous 'brown' of all?
how'd that work out?
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And for the love of christ hire Bernie kosar and give him some authority. Is he a drunk? Maybe. Is he punchy? Maybe. Does he understand football? Better than anyone the browns have hired in 15 years. Does he love the browns? Absolutely.
And for the love of christ hire Bernie kosar and give him some authority. Is he a drunk? Maybe. Is he punchy? Maybe. Does he understand football? Better than anyone the browns have hired in 15 years. Does he love the browns? Absolutely.
I wish I could give you +10 for this! You have absolutely NAILED it & Bernie is the shot in the arm the Browns need!
Thank you CK,
Mike
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For all the Teddy Twatwater fans - listen to Greg Cosell talk about him. He's not any better than Christy Ponder was at being a game manager carried by Adrian Peterson to playoffs except this time he has a much better defense while our's forfeits weekly. Yep, just find 1 scapegoat and there's nothing but flawless football to follow. I've listened to this bullshit since all we needed to do was chase a 3rd round Colt McCoy outta town. Then we got the bionic arm of Weeden with the eye sight of Helen Keller and wow did it ever get fun around here. BTW, guess what QB outplayed RG3 last year? Colt McCoy so where did all the RG3 fans vanish to?
How many own that? How many of the same geniuses are telling us Johnny isn't the answer right now just 5 starts into things? Be careful who you listen to folks.
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And for the love of christ hire Bernie kosar and give him some authority. Is he a drunk? Maybe. Is he punchy? Maybe. Does he understand football? Better than anyone the browns have hired in 15 years. Does he love the browns? Absolutely.
I wish I could give you +10 for this! You have absolutely NAILED it & Bernie is the shot in the arm the Browns need!
Thank you CK,
Mike
I wish I could give you +10 for this! You have absolutely NAILED it & Bernie is the shot in the arm the Browns need!
Thank you CK,
Mike
just make sure bernie isn't the one loading the syringes.
a team of chris farleys.
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mccown is a gamer. looks like manziel might be too.
start manziel the rest of the year so a decision can finally be made and the nonsense in-fighting between fans/friends will stop.
And because we clearly have so many holes to fill, it would be best for the team if Johnny can be the starter long term. I'm not sure if he can or not but it certainly would be better to not have to draft a QB next year and we can fill some of the damn holes on defense.
And because we clearly have so many holes to fill, it would be best for the team if Johnny can be the starter long term. I'm not sure if he can or not but it certainly would be better to not have to draft a QB next year and we can fill some of the damn holes on defense.
Don't forget all your takes about Haloti Ngata when you were certain he was way too overrated for us coming out of college Mark. You were just as outspoken and how did that work out for you? We get it - you think getting rid of Johnny makes us an undefeated team. You're wrong. If Josh was the answer - he wouldn't be too beat up to answer the bell. He'd answer the bell and be something better than a very pretty 1-6 with him starting. Good Lord, look what you're rooting for here.
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well tom i think there might be only 2-3 teddy crossdresser fans still bitching about not picking him, they're also the ones complaining about watkins.
and one of them is your new fave friend.....mr. walter white.

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