5 star recruit and #1 overall RB for 2016 commits to Ohio State
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Bernie sanders?
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I'm no fan of Woody's but,, that's just fucked up..
He's being a homer, but of course you are not when calling a kid you've never met "A guy with no loyalty probably also lacks heart and commitment to the team."
What do you call someone who commits to something and then calls it off at the first sign of adversity?
What do you call someone who commits to something and then calls it off at the first sign of adversity?
Adversity?
Maybe Harbaugh just simply gives better head than Urban Cryer..
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Who cares about recruiting. The big teams will get the best players always. It is about the coaching.
Note: Michifuck probably has players that are no better this year than they had the last several years....yet Harbaugh knows how to coach what he has and the other guys they had there, Hoke and Rodriguez did not.
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More than one variable exists. Recruiting matters.
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More than one variable exists. Recruiting matters.
Slightly. Check this out about the #1 high school recruits. About half became college stars. About half not so much. Some became pros.....a couple outstanding. A few may have never even been drafted:
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This goes back a bit further:
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They've run analyses on the 4 or 5 recruiting classes that a program signed prior to winning a national championship. I forgot what the conclusion was exactly but I'm almost positive that pretty much every national champion of the BCS era averaged at least in the top 10 on the 4 classes combined. It may be higher. I'll try to find it.
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If you say "only 50% of 5* recruits get drafted" that might not sound great. But this argument doesn't exist in a vacuum. What is the percentage for 4*s? 3*s? Here's a hint, its worse.
There have been studies on this. Highly rated recruits objectively have a higher chance of succeeding.
Recruiting matters
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Well, what I am saying is that it is a given that the "big schools" are going to get quality recruits.
I believe that there is very little difference between the talent on the top 25 recruiting classes.
Sure, recruiting matters because the players recruited to go to Ohio State are going to be better than those that go to Akron or other MAC schools. But between the big boys, it is not that significant.
Other factors matter more is all I am saying.
Michigan may have actually had more quality "recruits" go there over the last 15 years than went to Ohio St. But Ohio St. had Jim Tressel and Urban Meyer coaching......and Michigan didn't. That was a far bigger factor.
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I'm pretty sure Tressel did just fine getting high quality recruits (Pryors cars, Clarett, etc).
The top class is going to be much better than #22.
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I'm pretty sure Tressel did just fine getting high quality recruits (Pryors cars, Clarett, etc).
The top class is going to be much better than #22.
I'm pretty sure Tressel did just fine getting high quality recruits (Pryors cars, Clarett, etc).
The top class is going to be much better than #22.
But....what I am saying is that a guy like Tressel, Meyer, maybe Harbaugh.....can take the #22 ranked recruiting class and often beat the #1 ranked recruiting class because they know how to get the best out of them.
Now, these guys probably get reputations as great coaches, so many of the best recruits want to go there, so it is a self fulfilling prophecy.......but not always. Nick Saban is known as a great coach and the best players want to go there.
But sometimes, say take Michigan (or name some other school) they may have still gotten a Top 5 recruiting class....but could do nothing with it because their coach (Hoke/RR) was not up to par.
After a while a school may lose their recruiting edge if the coaches they get don't pan out. Nebraska is a team that comes to mind. For 40 years under Bob Devaney and Tom Osborne they were perhaps the premier program in the nation. Not so much now. They are only going .500 for the past number of years. What happened there? (loss of steroids perhaps?) Or just bad coaching.
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Talent is more important than coaching generally. I mean, sure, if you're a bona fife Retard of a coach, yes you can ruin great talent. But for the most part if you stay out of the way they'll be fine. Les Miles is known as a pretty terrible coach but he does ok because he recruits lights out.
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Talent is more important than coaching generally. I mean, sure, if you're a bona fife Retard of a coach, yes you can ruin great talent. But for the most part if you stay out of the way they'll be fine. Les Miles is known as a pretty terrible coach but he does ok because he recruits lights out.
Talent is more important than coaching generally. I mean, sure, if you're a bona fife Retard of a coach, yes you can ruin great talent. But for the most part if you stay out of the way they'll be fine. Les Miles is known as a pretty terrible coach but he does ok because he recruits lights out.
Maybe......sure the P5 conferences are going to have better talent than the WAC/MAC etc. But within the P5 I still think coaching is the primary factor.
Alabama has been the better SEC team because of coaching.....not because the talent it recruits is oh so much better than the talent Georgia/Florida/Auburn/LSU etc.
Ohio State has been better than Mich. MSU, Penn St., Nebraska etc. because of coaching, not talent.
Pete Carroll ruled the P-12 when there. That school does not rule so much now.....because of coaching.
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Alabama has something like 5 straight #1 recruiting classes (depending on where you look). Of course Saban is good, but it's recruiting that makes them what they are. Of course, they are at a point now where their image is so good to recruits that they have to make sure they're taking kids that don't want to merely come in and bask in the glory, rather than work to add to it.
Ohio State has recruited better the last 15 years than their fellow Big 10 programs. They also recruit nationally more, I believe.
Pete Carroll had Ed Orgeron, probably the best recruiter in the country, while he was at USC. Made a huge difference. He killed it in recruiting in the early 2000s.
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Alabama has something like 5 straight #1 recruiting classes (depending on where you look). Of course Saban is good, but it's recruiting that makes them what they are. Of course, they are at a point now where their image is so good to recruits that they have to make sure they're taking kids that don't want to merely come in and bask in the glory, rather than work to add to it.
Ohio State has recruited better the last 15 years than their fellow Big 10 programs. They also recruit nationally more, I believe.
Pete Carroll had Ed Orgeron, probably the best recruiter in the country, while he was at USC. Made a huge difference. He killed it in recruiting in the early 2000s.
Alabama has something like 5 straight #1 recruiting classes (depending on where you look). Of course Saban is good, but it's recruiting that makes them what they are. Of course, they are at a point now where their image is so good to recruits that they have to make sure they're taking kids that don't want to merely come in and bask in the glory, rather than work to add to it.
Ohio State has recruited better the last 15 years than their fellow Big 10 programs. They also recruit nationally more, I believe.
Pete Carroll had Ed Orgeron, probably the best recruiter in the country, while he was at USC. Made a huge difference. He killed it in recruiting in the early 2000s.
Well, it is sort of a chicken and egg situation......but I still think Bum Phillips said it best about coaching.....specifically about Don Shula.
He said: "he can take his'n and beat yer'n and he can take your'n and beat his'n."
Now, Texas boy.....you go argue with Bum Phillips.
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Jeremy Schneider @jeremyschneider.bsky.social@J_SchneiderAlso, photos of Kareem Walker wearing a Michigan towel during the game highschoolsports.nj.com/news/article/6… #NJfootball
Jeremy Schneider @jeremyschneider.bsky.social@J_SchneiderAlso, photos of Kareem Walker wearing a Michigan towel during the game highschoolsports.nj.com/news/article/6… #NJfootball
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So, funny story, guess who just committed to Michigan?
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So, funny story, guess who just committed to Michigan?
So, funny story, guess who just committed to Michigan?
Boba Fett? Why don't you just fucking tell us.
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Whatever....OSU still has what is considered Top recruiting class:
And, as I said before.....it doesn't matter who has the #1 or #5 class......it is what you do with them coaching wise.
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So, funny story, guess who just committed to Michigan?
Boba Fett? Why don't you just fucking tell us.
Boba Fett? Why don't you just fucking tell us.
Maybe read through this thread. You'll figure it out
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