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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @mohican said:

    Why is 7 divisions too many? OHSAA realized that school sizes across the board were declining and added the DIvision's 6 and 7, because of smaller and smaller schools.

    And does 7 divisions take away from the other divisions? Really?

    Returning to three or four divisions would be "fair" (I know, no such thing) if small rural schools had some kind of forced consolidation. Some of these Division 7 schools have class sizes of 30 to 40 kids (girls and boys) combined.

    My school/my children's school might be faced with not having a team next year - When my son and his class graduates this year, there will be a whopping thirteen boys left from this years JV and Varsity programs. And the 8th grade had to be combined with the 7th grade squad this year so maybe five to eight kids that played junior high ball will play high school ball.

    Having 7 divisions smacks to me of it being basically a "participation trophy" for those smaller schools. Like I said, I think 4 divisions would suffice.

    But....of course....you know it is all about money. The OHSAA gets the money from the gate fees of all those games.

    Sure, it then divvies it out to the schools....but it keeps a fair portion of it.

    mohicanM mohican wrote on
    #30

    @the-gipper said:

    Having 7 divisions smacks to me of it being basically a "participation trophy" for those smaller schools. Like I said, I think 4 divisions would suffice.

    But....of course....you know it is all about money. The OHSAA gets the money from the gate fees of all those games.

    Sure, it then divvies it out to the schools....but it keeps a fair portion of it.

    just curious - do you ever watch any games in the smaller divisions? Or is this a view from afar?

    Hope has two beautiful daughters: Their names are Anger and Courage. Anger that things are the way they are. Courage to make them the way they ought to be. - St. Augustine. Throughout the centuries there were men who took first steps down new roads armed with nothing but their vision. - Ayn Rand
    The GipperT 1 Reply
  • mohicanM mohican wrote on
    #31

    I often hear the argument that private schools should have their own playoff system separate from public schools.

    Hope has two beautiful daughters: Their names are Anger and Courage. Anger that things are the way they are. Courage to make them the way they ought to be. - St. Augustine. Throughout the centuries there were men who took first steps down new roads armed with nothing but their vision. - Ayn Rand
  • mohicanM mohican

    @the-gipper said:

    Having 7 divisions smacks to me of it being basically a "participation trophy" for those smaller schools. Like I said, I think 4 divisions would suffice.

    But....of course....you know it is all about money. The OHSAA gets the money from the gate fees of all those games.

    Sure, it then divvies it out to the schools....but it keeps a fair portion of it.

    just curious - do you ever watch any games in the smaller divisions? Or is this a view from afar?

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #32

    @mohican said:

    just curious - do you ever watch any games in the smaller divisions? Or is this a view from afar?

    I don't go to any really. I see what's on TV sometimes.

    What's the point?

    Here are the way the schools are broken down, enrollment wise for each division:

    Division Enrollment Schools

    I 581 and more 72

    II 361 to 580 107

    III 257 to 360 107

    IV 186 to 256 107

    V 144 to 185 107

    VI 100 to 143 107

    VII 99 and less 109

    Total Teams 716

    I don't think there should be a change in the big schools.....but I think that the lower 6 divisions could be scaled down to at least 4...perhaps even 3, which would put about 150 or 200 schools in each division.

    These divisions with 107 schools bring 32 each into the playoffs.

    That is 29.9% of the schools in a division that make the playoffs....too many.

    Compare:

    Div. 1 (FBS) college football allows 3.12% of teams in its playoff. 4 out of 128

    Div. 1-AA (FCS) allows 19.2% of teams in its playoffs. 24 out of 125

    Div. II allows 16.47% of teams in its playoff. 28 out of 170

    Div. III allow 12.9% of its schools in its playoff. 32 out of 247

    As far as I am concerned, these Ohio HS division could scale back to a 16 team bracket....which would put 15% in, not 30%. Then you have to accomplish some kind of something to get in. They are literally letting teams in the playoff with a .500 or below record. Again...the idea must be to give as many as possible participation trophies. Or to just make money.

  • ATENEARSA ATENEARS wrote on
    #33

    #1 St. Eds vs #5 Euclid

    As I stated on Oct 27th, "My Sleeper pick to make some noise is EUCLID" and I'm going to stick with it. St. Eds isn't firing on all cylinders for some reason and Euclid seems to be peaking. This should be a great match-up.

    #2 Stow vs #3 Olentangy

    I will concede that you guys were right about Stow being last seasons Hudson. I'll finally give Stow a little credit in ousting Solon. Anyone know anything about Stow's next opponent, Olentangy (11-1)?

    I will add though that Stow got about as easy of a trip through the playoffs as anyone would get (Berea-Midpark, Solon, Olentangy). Whereas Hudson last year was awarded playing the #16th seeded team (Perry) after finishing with the #1 seed, but then faced St. Ignatius & Mentor before getting stopped by the eventual State Champion St. Ed's.

  • hammertimeH hammertime wrote on
    #34

    nice call on Euclid

    Rotsky is the coach there and as usual has baggage involving paperwork etc..... he gets his team motivated though.

    Looking at St Edwards schedule says plenty about them....Olentangy I think will advance to play Ed's

    guns don't kill kids-pitt bulls do.
    The GipperT 1 Reply
  • hammertimeH hammertime wrote on
    #35

    Div 1

    3 public schools remain.(gipper be damned)

    St. Edward vs. Stow Region 1

    Colerain vs. Wayne Region 2

    All but Stow are ranked top 25 nationally.

    Ohio has great highschool football and not just in Div 1 lots of great matchups next week.

    guns don't kill kids-pitt bulls do.
    The GipperT 1 Reply
  • hammertimeH hammertime

    nice call on Euclid

    Rotsky is the coach there and as usual has baggage involving paperwork etc..... he gets his team motivated though.

    Looking at St Edwards schedule says plenty about them....Olentangy I think will advance to play Ed's

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #36

    @hammertime said:

    nice call on Euclid

    Really? They lost like 30-0

    Rotsky is the coach there and as usual has baggage involving paperwork etc..... he gets his team motivated though.

    Looking at St Edwards schedule says plenty about them....Olentangy I think will advance to play Ed's

    And yet, no again

  • hammertimeH hammertime

    Div 1

    3 public schools remain.(gipper be damned)

    St. Edward vs. Stow Region 1

    Colerain vs. Wayne Region 2

    All but Stow are ranked top 25 nationally.

    Ohio has great highschool football and not just in Div 1 lots of great matchups next week.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #37

    @hammertime said:

    Div 1

    3 public schools remain.(gipper be damned)

    You are the one that is damned. You are the one that smokes the parochial school's rope

    St. Edward vs. Stow Region 1

    Colerain vs. Wayne Region 2

    All but Stow are ranked top 25 nationally.

    Ohio has great highschool football and not just in Div 1 lots of great matchups next week.

  • hammertimeH hammertime wrote on
    #38

    What is your problem Gipper?

    My response was to Stans post recognizing Euclid

    I like good highschool football and for 3 yrs running you insert your juice box rhetoric into the thread. nice job again.

    guns don't kill kids-pitt bulls do.
  • hammertimeH hammertime

    What is your problem Gipper?

    My response was to Stans post recognizing Euclid

    I like good highschool football and for 3 yrs running you insert your juice box rhetoric into the thread. nice job again.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #39

    @hammertime said:

    What is your problem Gipper?

    My response was to Stans post recognizing Euclid

    I like good highschool football and for 3 yrs running you insert your juice box rhetoric into the thread. nice job again.

    I insert mine only in response to yours. Blame yourself.

    And FYI, when you list a post here.....you are opening it up for discussion to any and all.

    If you want to give Stan a private message, there is a method for that.

  • hammertimeH hammertime wrote on
    #40

    sure thing gipper. thanks for the heads up on posting. who do you like in the semis?

    have you had a chance to check out any of the d2 thru d7 teams?

    Any of the teams your rooting for still alive? There are some alumni of Canton Central C that I work with and are slightly surprised they've made it as far as they have.

    Hudson keeps on chugging away with some excellent coaching regardless of the Div. (they dropped to D2)

    You mentioned in a previous post the need for less divisions and I agree it could be shrunk down. but only to 5 not 7. A Super 1 division could be an option for the Mega schools.

    guns don't kill kids-pitt bulls do.
    The GipperT ATENEARSA 2 Replies
  • hammertimeH hammertime

    sure thing gipper. thanks for the heads up on posting. who do you like in the semis?

    have you had a chance to check out any of the d2 thru d7 teams?

    Any of the teams your rooting for still alive? There are some alumni of Canton Central C that I work with and are slightly surprised they've made it as far as they have.

    Hudson keeps on chugging away with some excellent coaching regardless of the Div. (they dropped to D2)

    You mentioned in a previous post the need for less divisions and I agree it could be shrunk down. but only to 5 not 7. A Super 1 division could be an option for the Mega schools.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #41

    @hammertime said:

    sure thing gipper. thanks for the heads up on posting. who do you like in the semis?

    have you had a chance to check out any of the d2 thru d7 teams?

    Any of the teams your rooting for still alive? There are some alumni of Canton Central C that I work with and are slightly surprised they've made it as far as they have.

    Hudson keeps on chugging away with some excellent coaching regardless of the Div. (they dropped to D2)

    You mentioned in a previous post the need for less divisions and I agree it could be shrunk down. but only to 5 not 7. A Super 1 division could be an option for the Mega schools.

    I would most like the Akron/Canton area teams to win: Stow, Hudson, Hoban, Mogadore...or Perry....and CCC. Don't really care much about the other matchups that don't have the local teams in them. Though, I was friends once with the mayor of Coldwater....he passed away.

    Five divisions I think would be sufficient.

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @atenears said:

    Mentor losing to Elyria (6-4) and Berea-Midpark losing to Westlake (3-7) in Week #10 ... ouch!

    My Playoff Bitch:

    Stow (2nd Seed) & Berea-Midpark (#15 seed) play a full schedule against D2 schools and get in. Stow played only TWO D1 schools and they had a combined record of (3-17), meanwhile Berea-Midpark played ONE D1 School with a record of (1-9) ... these two (Berea-Midpark @ Stow) will face each other in Round #1, so one of them will advance to second round, meanwhile St. Ignatius who could beat 15 of the 16 teams in the playoffs, is left out because of their (hard) schedule.

    Let's just move on to the Championship, St Edwards takes Region-1 without breaking a sweat. My guess is that Ed's will face Westerville Central or Euclid face them in the semi's.

    I hate to make such predictions against my Mentor Cardinals, but I'm not sure they get past Glen Oak in Round #1 ... at least it is at Mentor where they have been nearly flawless for a decade ... errr ... until last Friday against Elyria.

    Stow may beat them all. That is my point about the divisions. Your complaint is that Stow plays mostly D-2 schools as their league is made of mostly D-2 schools. I say that there is a sliver of difference between a D-2 school and a D-1 school.

    And no one told Ignatius they had to play a "hard" schedule. Maybe they should just play a schedule consisting of the other parochial schools around NE Ohio. What would be wrong with that?

    ATENEARSA ATENEARS wrote on
    #42

    @the-gipper said:

    Stow may beat them all.

    Really? They lost 45-7 ... (hehe, right back at ya!)

    The GipperT 1 Reply
  • ATENEARSA ATENEARS wrote on
    #43

    I guess I'm now satisfied with Mentor taking Ed's into the fourth Quarter only down 10-7 before the wheels came off. Ed's has out-scored their opponents 102-10 since entering that fourth quarter against Mentor.

    Great Championship match-up between Huber Heights Wayne Warriors & St. Edwards Eagles ... the two best remain.

    Here is Saturday’s state championship game schedule:

    10 a.m.: Division VI title game, Kirtland vs. Maria Stein Marion Local.

    3 p.m.: Division I title game, St. Edward vs. Huber Heights Wayne.

    8 p.m.: Division IV title game, Columbus Bishop Hartley vs. Steubenville.

    Here is Thursday’s state championship game schedule:

    7:30 p.m.: Division III title game, Archbishop Hoban vs. Toledo Central Catholic.

    Here is Friday’s state championship game schedule:

    10 a.m.: Division V title game, Canton Central Catholic vs. Coldwater.

    3 p.m.: Division VII title game, Mogadore vs. Fort Recovery.

    8 p.m.: Division II title game, Massillon Perry vs. Cincinnati La Salle.


    Visit the OHSAA website for ticket information at:http://www.ohsaa.org/sports/ft/boys/default.asp

    The GipperT 1 Reply
  • hammertimeH hammertime

    sure thing gipper. thanks for the heads up on posting. who do you like in the semis?

    have you had a chance to check out any of the d2 thru d7 teams?

    Any of the teams your rooting for still alive? There are some alumni of Canton Central C that I work with and are slightly surprised they've made it as far as they have.

    Hudson keeps on chugging away with some excellent coaching regardless of the Div. (they dropped to D2)

    You mentioned in a previous post the need for less divisions and I agree it could be shrunk down. but only to 5 not 7. A Super 1 division could be an option for the Mega schools.

    ATENEARSA ATENEARS wrote on
    #44

    @hammertime said:

    Any of the teams your rooting for still alive? There are some alumni of Canton Central C that I work with and are slightly surprised they've made it as far as they have.

    A very good young man that I coached in travel baseball (catcher) for several seasons plays Linebacker for Edison Chargers, whom CCC beat on Friday in the semi's. The kid had over 100 tackles and a couple of sacks for Edison. The had a great season.

  • ATENEARSA ATENEARS

    @the-gipper said:

    Stow may beat them all.

    Really? They lost 45-7 ... (hehe, right back at ya!)

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #45

    @atenears said:

    Really? They lost 45-7 ... (hehe, right back at ya!)

    Can't compete with that cash.

  • ATENEARSA ATENEARS

    I guess I'm now satisfied with Mentor taking Ed's into the fourth Quarter only down 10-7 before the wheels came off. Ed's has out-scored their opponents 102-10 since entering that fourth quarter against Mentor.

    Great Championship match-up between Huber Heights Wayne Warriors & St. Edwards Eagles ... the two best remain.

    Here is Saturday’s state championship game schedule:

    10 a.m.: Division VI title game, Kirtland vs. Maria Stein Marion Local.

    3 p.m.: Division I title game, St. Edward vs. Huber Heights Wayne.

    8 p.m.: Division IV title game, Columbus Bishop Hartley vs. Steubenville.

    Here is Thursday’s state championship game schedule:

    7:30 p.m.: Division III title game, Archbishop Hoban vs. Toledo Central Catholic.

    Here is Friday’s state championship game schedule:

    10 a.m.: Division V title game, Canton Central Catholic vs. Coldwater.

    3 p.m.: Division VII title game, Mogadore vs. Fort Recovery.

    8 p.m.: Division II title game, Massillon Perry vs. Cincinnati La Salle.


    Visit the OHSAA website for ticket information at:http://www.ohsaa.org/sports/ft/boys/default.asp

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #46

    @atenears said:

    I guess I'm now satisfied with Mentor taking Ed's into the fourth Quarter only down 10-7 before the wheels came off. Ed's has out-scored their opponents 102-10 since entering that fourth quarter against Mentor.

    Great Championship match-up between Huber Heights Wayne Warriors & St. Edwards Eagles ... the two best remain.

    Here is Saturday’s state championship game schedule:

    My Preferences (not predictions)

    10 a.m.: Division VI title game, Kirtland vs. Maria Stein Marion Local.

    3 p.m.: Division I title game, St. Edward vs. Huber Heights Wayne.

    8 p.m.: Division IV title game, Columbus Bishop Hartley vs. Steubenville.

    Here is Thursday’s state championship game schedule:

    7:30 p.m.: Division III title game, Archbishop Hoban vs. Toledo Central Catholic.

    Here is Friday’s state championship game schedule:

    10 a.m.: Division V title game, Canton Central Catholic vs. Coldwater.....like I said, the friend of mine that was mayor of Coldwater is deceased....so no loyalty there.

    3 p.m.: Division VII title game, Mogadore vs. Fort Recovery.

    8 p.m.: Division II title game, Massillon Perry vs. Cincinnati La Salle.

    Visit the OHSAA website for ticket information at:http://www.ohsaa.org/sports/ft/boys/default.asp

  • hammertimeH hammertime wrote on
    #47

    D7 Mogador

    D6 Marion

    D5 Coldwater

    D4 Rapistville(Stuby)

    D3 Hoban

    D2 LaSalle

    D1 St. Edward

    Not my preferences but my predictions.

    guns don't kill kids-pitt bulls do.
  • hammertimeH hammertime wrote on
    #48

    Colerain, Wayne and St. Edward will finish in the top 50 in the country. With the State Champ finishing in the top ten.

    If LaSalle can win they could also finish top 50.

    guns don't kill kids-pitt bulls do.
  • hammertimeH hammertime

    Colerain, Wayne and St. Edward will finish in the top 50 in the country. With the State Champ finishing in the top ten.

    If LaSalle can win they could also finish top 50.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #49

    @hammertime said:

    Colerain, Wayne and St. Edward will finish in the top 50 in the country. With the State Champ finishing in the top ten.

    If LaSalle can win they could also finish top 50.

    By what ranking service? I used to look at USA Today.....is that still "it"?

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