Jonathan Paul Manziel
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Pettine looked and sounded like beaten man with the Manziel situation, he's had enough and I expect McCown to start Monday night.
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Fuck. Fucking fuck, fuck fuck, fucking fucker. <-about as articulate as I can be right now.
The staff wouldn't sit him if this was without substance, so clearly there's something to it, and he's been out again. Not sure I agree with it, but it is what it is, and it means that we're not set on him as our QB for the next game, let alone the next 5 years, so we're back to figuring out whether to draft Paxton Lynch, Jared Goff or whoever the fuck else, and not worrying about actually moving the team forward.
Fuck. Fucking fuck, fuck fuck, fucking fucker. <-about as articulate as I can be right now.
The staff wouldn't sit him if this was without substance, so clearly there's something to it, and he's been out again. Not sure I agree with it, but it is what it is, and it means that we're not set on him as our QB for the next game, let alone the next 5 years, so we're back to figuring out whether to draft Paxton Lynch, Jared Goff or whoever the fuck else, and not worrying about actually moving the team forward.
They just don't trust him at all, we're drafting a QB whatever happens the rest of the year.
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Some day, somewhere, Johnny Manziel and Josh Gordon are both going to have a moment where they realise the opportuinty they both have, but by that time it'll probably be too late because they'll have been out of the league for years. Or, they'll end up going to the ravens, steelers or patriots or something.
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Pettine looked and sounded like beaten man with the Manziel situation, he's had enough and I expect McCown to start Monday night.
God dammit!!!.....I can NEVER get my Johnny bashing right.....
Everytime he's in the news or drinking, I bash and bash and bash and the team(and league) do nothing......THEN....the first time I support him and say ..."Hey, its OK"...They go full on turncoat and say "big trouble"....
Sheesh Loueesh....
Pettine looked and sounded like beaten man with the Manziel situation, he's had enough and I expect McCown to start Monday night.
He sure did......looks completely dejected and worn out from it all......
and when he told the press people... "Enough!".....you could tell that he's reached his limit....Poor guy...
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Johnny needed to stay in Cleveland and focus on his game during the bye.
Ya, everybody is allowed to drink, and travel, and see old friends. And all the young unmarried players are going to do it.
But this guy was just handed the keys to the franchise. The season is over in two months. Just fucking commit yourself to the Cleveland Browns for two months, then you go party your ass off with your buds.
He couldn't do it.
Zombo
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Personally, I could care less what Manziel does with his time off. This is just one more example of our lifeless coach looking like he doesn't have a clue what to do and is waiting for public opinion to make the decision for him. I want Pettine and Farmer gone before the season ends.
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Personally, I could care less what Manziel does with his time off. This is just one more example of our lifeless coach looking like he doesn't have a clue what to do and is waiting for public opinion to make the decision for him. I want Pettine and Farmer gone before the season ends.
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Sadly I think this spells the end for Pettine and maybe Farmer. Ironically, not Manziel though.
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Sadly I think this spells the end for Pettine and maybe Farmer. Ironically, not Manziel though.
This is just so exhausting, I can't imagine how Pettine feels.
Sadly I think this spells the end for Pettine and maybe Farmer. Ironically, not Manziel though.
This is what I see happening too, which is depressing.
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This is just so exhausting....
....exactly how I feel.....
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Pettine is suffering from confirmation bias. He is looking for a reason to keep Manziel on the bench.. IMO.
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Johnny needed to stay in Cleveland and focus on his game during the bye.
Ya, everybody is allowed to drink, and travel, and see old friends. And all the young unmarried players are going to do it.
But this guy was just handed the keys to the franchise. The season is over in two months. Just fucking commit yourself to the Cleveland Browns for two months, then you go party your ass off with your buds.
He couldn't do it.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Johnny needed to stay in Cleveland and focus on his game during the bye.
Ya, everybody is allowed to drink, and travel, and see old friends. And all the young unmarried players are going to do it.
But this guy was just handed the keys to the franchise. The season is over in two months. Just fucking commit yourself to the Cleveland Browns for two months, then you go party your ass off with your buds.
He couldn't do it.
Zombo
I'm confused. So he is allowed, but he's not allowed?
I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride -
Zombo said:
Johnny needed to stay in Cleveland and focus on his game during the bye.
Ya, everybody is allowed to drink, and travel, and see old friends. And all the young unmarried players are going to do it.
But this guy was just handed the keys to the franchise. The season is over in two months. Just fucking commit yourself to the Cleveland Browns for two months, then you go party your ass off with your buds.
He couldn't do it.
Zombo
I'm confused. So he is allowed, but he's not allowed?
I'm confused. So he is allowed, but he's not allowed?
Sure as shit he's allowed. But he looks like an ass when he was just in rehab for drinking.
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Zombo said:
Johnny needed to stay in Cleveland and focus on his game during the bye.
Ya, everybody is allowed to drink, and travel, and see old friends. And all the young unmarried players are going to do it.
But this guy was just handed the keys to the franchise. The season is over in two months. Just fucking commit yourself to the Cleveland Browns for two months, then you go party your ass off with your buds.
He couldn't do it.
Zombo
I'm confused. So he is allowed, but he's not allowed?
I'm confused. So he is allowed, but he's not allowed?
Yeah, I'm sorry but fuck Pettine for this and fuck the idea of trying to police him. Mike, you're not Manziel's father. He's a grown ass man who can make decisions, and as long as those decisions don't directly detriment the team it doesn't fucking matter. Why don't you say you're dissapointed in how your shitty ass fucking defense whom you select arbitrarily based on who you like and who you don't? Seriously, I am over this clown man he's just an absolute joke.
Manziel was out in the club but he was also volunteering with the community. He's playing well on the field but under this regime that doesn't matter as long as you rub Mikey boy the right way.
Sure as shit he's allowed. But he looks like an ass when he was just in rehab for drinking.
Again, find a source that directly says he was in rehab for drinking cause it was never reported that was why he went officially.
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Zombo said:
Johnny needed to stay in Cleveland and focus on his game during the bye.
Ya, everybody is allowed to drink, and travel, and see old friends. And all the young unmarried players are going to do it.
But this guy was just handed the keys to the franchise. The season is over in two months. Just fucking commit yourself to the Cleveland Browns for two months, then you go party your ass off with your buds.
He couldn't do it.
Zombo
I'm confused. So he is allowed, but he's not allowed?
I'm confused. So he is allowed, but he's not allowed?
This particular player, that was just handed the keys to the franchise and had vowed "No more distractions" should have wanted to stay here and be the best Browns QB he can be.
There is a higher standard for starting Quarterbacks, and there is a different standard for someone who has been a distraction in the past and has vowed a new commitment.
He's "allowed" as an adult. He's idiotic as Johnny Manziel, freshly minted starting QB for starved franchise, to not hold himself to a higher standard until the end of the season. Or at least the end of the week.
When you have a dream job (NFL starting QB ... 1 of 32 in the world) and you have to toe the line for little bit longer, and sacrifice some fun for some commitment ... you just do it.
Prove yourself as a player, prove you are committed to the franchise .. and then go party.
Zombo
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A lot of over reaction here... not that that is anything new. Personally I can give it 24 hours before I consider freaking out as an option.
Here is the presser for those who have not seen it.
The problem Pet continues to have is after fending off multiple questions successfully as "internal matters", he suddenly deems a JM question worthy of a thoughtful answer.
Once Pet moved the presser onto other topics, his "energy" improves dramatically. Easy to understand why...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I'm confused. So he is allowed, but he's not allowed?
Yeah, I'm sorry but fuck Pettine for this and fuck the idea of trying to police him. Mike, you're not Manziel's father. He's a grown ass man who can make decisions, and as long as those decisions don't directly detriment the team it doesn't fucking matter. Why don't you say you're dissapointed in how your shitty ass fucking defense whom you select arbitrarily based on who you like and who you don't? Seriously, I am over this clown man he's just an absolute joke.
Manziel was out in the club but he was also volunteering with the community. He's playing well on the field but under this regime that doesn't matter as long as you rub Mikey boy the right way.
Sure as shit he's allowed. But he looks like an ass when he was just in rehab for drinking.
Again, find a source that directly says he was in rehab for drinking cause it was never reported that was why he went officially.
Yeah, I'm sorry but fuck Pettine for this and fuck the idea of trying to police him. Mike, you're not Manziel's father. He's a grown ass man who can make decisions, and as long as those decisions don't directly detriment the team it doesn't fucking matter. Why don't you say you're dissapointed in how your shitty ass fucking defense whom you select arbitrarily based on who you like and who you don't? Seriously, I am over this clown man he's just an absolute joke.
Manziel was out in the club but he was also volunteering with the community. He's playing well on the field but under this regime that doesn't matter as long as you rub Mikey boy the right way.
Again, find a source that directly says he was in rehab for drinking cause it was never reported that was why he went officially.
Ha! Really? And OJ was innocent.
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This is just so exhausting, I can't imagine how Pettine feels.
And that is likely the why behind deeming a question answer worthy
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Manziel can't keep his shit together. Just don't go to clubs. It isn't that difficult.
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LOL... well... he was posing for someone.
Doesn't appear to be trashed so no biggie.
Aside... at least his 'stache is really coming along...
Hmmm, well the kid gets in his own way and I doubt this will ever change.
If he plays, I hope he does well and the Browns win. Then trade him in the off season to Dallas or somewhere. This Browns team doesn't need the distractions he brings, neither did the Browns team of last year.
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