If Pettine is not around next year, is Chip Kelly a good option?
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I think Chip Kelly can coach football, but he has proven he is incapable of managing a roster and calling all the shots personnel-wise. If he was willing to work for a GM, then he'd be worth another shot...
That being said, I don't think Philly gets rid of him just yet...
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I fear his system has been figured out. His offense has sputtered big time this year. I would say no on Chip Kelly.
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I'd be pretty happy with Dungy, and Manning as OC. Not that I think Flip deserves to go necessarily, but there's a dream ticket right there.
I'd be pretty happy with Dungy, and Manning as OC. Not that I think Flip deserves to go necessarily, but there's a dream ticket right there.
I would seriously eat my hat if Manning goes right from playing to being an OC. Why the hell would he want to do that? I just don't see it. Front office position for him, yeah I could see that happening but you really just don't see future HOF players taking coordinator jobs one year away from the playing field.
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I'd be pretty happy with Dungy, and Manning as OC. Not that I think Flip deserves to go necessarily, but there's a dream ticket right there.
I would seriously eat my hat if Manning goes right from playing to being an OC. Why the hell would he want to do that? I just don't see it. Front office position for him, yeah I could see that happening but you really just don't see future HOF players taking coordinator jobs one year away from the playing field.
I would seriously eat my hat if Manning goes right from playing to being an OC. Why the hell would he want to do that? I just don't see it. Front office position for him, yeah I could see that happening but you really just don't see future HOF players taking coordinator jobs one year away from the playing field.
Oh I don't see it happening for sure, but it's been mooted. You've got to think with his robotic mechanics he'd be at least a great QB coach, and his reading of opposing Ds is good for play design/calling.
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I would seriously eat my hat if Manning goes right from playing to being an OC. Why the hell would he want to do that? I just don't see it. Front office position for him, yeah I could see that happening but you really just don't see future HOF players taking coordinator jobs one year away from the playing field.
Oh I don't see it happening for sure, but it's been mooted. You've got to think with his robotic mechanics he'd be at least a great QB coach, and his reading of opposing Ds is good for play design/calling.
Oh I don't see it happening for sure, but it's been mooted. You've got to think with his robotic mechanics he'd be at least a great QB coach, and his reading of opposing Ds is good for play design/calling.
That's why I'd see him taking a front office position and then having the ability to help out with the planning and play calling.
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Kelly? Absolutely NO!
Dungy? I have long been a Fan of his. Open the wallet Jimmy!
Mike
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Two words: Bugger off.
Yes, bugger....it means stick your dick in some guys asshole.
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Two words: Bugger off.
Yes, bugger....it means stick your dick in some guys asshole.
Two words: Bugger off.
Yes, bugger....it means stick your dick in some guys asshole.
One of a few meanings.
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He has no appreciable skills, and makes up for it by being a contentious asshole.
Not considered.
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Chip Kelly imo runs an unreasonable offense for the nfl. There is a reason he's struggled since the one season he took the league by surprise. The Browns would need to change a large part of their team to make his quick offense work. Firing yet another coach is one of the bigger mistakes the Browns could make. When was the last coach that was actually able to make a mark on a team in Cleveland? Continuity and trust will go a long way with pettine. You can't keep white washing the process and expect something to miraculously change. You should hope that if haslam learned anything while part of the steelers it was that continuity is important. No way would I fire pettine after one season.
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Chip Kelly imo runs an unreasonable offense for the nfl. There is a reason he's struggled since the one season he took the league by surprise. The Browns would need to change a large part of their team to make his quick offense work. Firing yet another coach is one of the bigger mistakes the Browns could make. When was the last coach that was actually able to make a mark on a team in Cleveland? Continuity and trust will go a long way with pettine. You can't keep white washing the process and expect something to miraculously change. You should hope that if haslam learned anything while part of the steelers it was that continuity is important. No way would I fire pettine after one season.
Chip Kelly imo runs an unreasonable offense for the nfl. There is a reason he's struggled since the one season he took the league by surprise. The Browns would need to change a large part of their team to make his quick offense work. Firing yet another coach is one of the bigger mistakes the Browns could make. When was the last coach that was actually able to make a mark on a team in Cleveland? Continuity and trust will go a long way with pettine. You can't keep white washing the process and expect something to miraculously change. You should hope that if haslam learned anything while part of the steelers it was that continuity is important. No way would I fire letting after one season.
I'm a big proponent for the element of surprise.. But Kelly's O is a bit like the Run and Shoot offenses of the 80's.(A fad Offense). That's pretty much how I see Kelly as running nothing more than a trick offense that will get sussed and and shut down in no time.. And that apparently seems to be the case.. I'm all for ingenuity. But, I think it has to make sense and it has to be based on some kind of structure and solid foundation.
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Chip Kelly imo runs an unreasonable offense for the nfl. There is a reason he's struggled since the one season he took the league by surprise. The Browns would need to change a large part of their team to make his quick offense work. Firing yet another coach is one of the bigger mistakes the Browns could make. When was the last coach that was actually able to make a mark on a team in Cleveland? Continuity and trust will go a long way with pettine. You can't keep white washing the process and expect something to miraculously change. You should hope that if haslam learned anything while part of the steelers it was that continuity is important. No way would I fire letting after one season.
I'm a big proponent for the element of surprise.. But Kelly's O is a bit like the Run and Shoot offenses of the 80's.(A fad Offense). That's pretty much how I see Kelly as running nothing more than a trick offense that will get sussed and and shut down in no time.. And that apparently seems to be the case.. I'm all for ingenuity. But, I think it has to make sense and it has to be based on some kind of structure and solid foundation.
His offense has already been figured out imo. He had success right out of the gate and that was all she wrote. It's also when Foles had his "break out" and what has he done since? Chip Kelly imo isn't a NFL head coach and if I were a browns fan he may be the last guy I'd want signed to a contract. The Browns need to keep pettine around. Give the guy another season or two because head coach musicial chairs has been going on for way too long in Cleveland. I think the only way I would fire Pettine is if a dream scenario came to head. Dungy or Cowher for example. I also have no idea why people are all excited for the Manning prospect. He may not even retire and i cant see him jumping into a coordinator role or a front office role immediately.I'm a big proponent for the element of surprise.. But Kelly's O is a bit like the Run and Shoot offenses of the 80's.(A fad Offense). That's pretty much how I see Kelly as running nothing more than a trick offense that will get sussed and and shut down in no time.. And that apparently seems to be the case.. I'm all for ingenuity. But, I think it has to make sense and it has to be based on some kind of structure and solid foundation.
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His offense has already been figured out imo. He had success right out of the gate and that was all she wrote. It's also when Foles had his "break out" and what has he done since? Chip Kelly imo isn't a NFL head coach and if I were a browns fan he may be the last guy I'd want signed to a contract. The Browns need to keep pettine around. Give the guy another season or two because head coach musicial chairs has been going on for way too long in Cleveland. I think the only way I would fire Pettine is if a dream scenario came to head. Dungy or Cowher for example. I also have no idea why people are all excited for the Manning prospect. He may not even retire and i cant see him jumping into a coordinator role or a front office role immediately.I'm a big proponent for the element of surprise.. But Kelly's O is a bit like the Run and Shoot offenses of the 80's.(A fad Offense). That's pretty much how I see Kelly as running nothing more than a trick offense that will get sussed and and shut down in no time.. And that apparently seems to be the case.. I'm all for ingenuity. But, I think it has to make sense and it has to be based on some kind of structure and solid foundation.
His offense has already been figured out imo. He had success right out of the gate and that was all she wrote. It's also when Foles had his "break out" and what has he done since? Chip Kelly imo isn't a NFL head coach and if I were a browns fan he may be the last guy I'd want signed to a contract. The Browns need to keep pettine around. Give the guy another season or two because head coach musicial chairs has been going on for way too long in Cleveland. I think the only way I would fire Pettine is if a dream scenario came to head. Dungy or Cowher for example. I also have no idea why people are all excited for the Manning prospect. He may not even retire and i cant see him jumping into a coordinator role or a front office role immediately.
Yeah I'm with you here.. Just based on the fact Manning has 0 front office experience and acumen. That's not saying he cant grow in to the role.. But the Browns have no time to dick around with GM training on the fly. Id rather we pull Bill Pollian into the fold. He has a great proven track record with procuring talent. I'm not the biggest Pettine fan. But I also don't think Dungy could repeat the fire and zeal of committing to win a SB.. He's got one already. I doubt Cowher would come. He's settled into a nice analyst role and I dont think trolling the sidelines appeals to him at this point , in his life.. But.. Money changes everything of course.
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I always thought of Ernie Accorsi as someone who could come in as a consultant. Too bad he was picked up by the Lions.
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Chip Kelly wasn't a good idea the first time around.
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Chip Kelly wasn't a good idea the first time around.
Chip Kelly wasn't a good idea the first time around.
Yep, plus he didn't want to come here, said we didn't have enough talent.
So what does he do in Philly? Purges the talent they had (McCoy, Maclin, DeSean Jackson, etc.). I think the Browns could beat the Eagles right now.
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Two words: Bugger off.
Yes, bugger....it means stick your dick in some guys asshole.
One of a few meanings.
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Chip Kelly imo runs an unreasonable offense for the nfl. There is a reason he's struggled since the one season he took the league by surprise. The Browns would need to change a large part of their team to make his quick offense work. Firing yet another coach is one of the bigger mistakes the Browns could make. When was the last coach that was actually able to make a mark on a team in Cleveland? Continuity and trust will go a long way with pettine. You can't keep white washing the process and expect something to miraculously change. You should hope that if haslam learned anything while part of the steelers it was that continuity is important. No way would I fire pettine after one season.
Chip Kelly imo runs an unreasonable offense for the nfl. There is a reason he's struggled since the one season he took the league by surprise. The Browns would need to change a large part of their team to make his quick offense work.
Yea, maybe, but, oddly JFF is one guy that could perhaps run that offense.
Firing yet another coach is one of the bigger mistakes the Browns could make.
It is a vexing conundrum.....get rid of someone you think may be inept (this defense is clearly ineptly run) or give a guy time to work out of it. Yes, a number of coaches started out poorly their first few years, but went on to do well: Noll, Walsh, Belichick, Landry etc. Hard to say what we have here.
When was the last coach that was actually able to make a mark on a team in Cleveland?
Butch Davis could have.....but he overreached.
Continuity and trust will go a long way with pettine. You can't keep white washing the process and expect something to miraculously change. You should hope that if haslam learned anything while part of the steelers it was that continuity is important. No way would I fire pettine after one season.
It has been two seasons now......and the fact is....Pettine has gotten worse. Last week was one of the worst coached game in the last 15 years.....and there have been a lot of bad games in that time.
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