If Pettine is not around next year, is Chip Kelly a good option?
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And if we get a new coach he will want ALL NEW PLAYERS people he picked and in 2 years by the time they get developed we will get a new mother fucking coach who will want to bring in guys that he hand picked and in 2 years we will get a new coach who wants his own guys.......... YOU CAN'T BUILD A TEAM IN 2 FUCKING YEARS
And if we get a new coach he will want ALL NEW PLAYERS people he picked and in 2 years by the time they get developed we will get a new mother fucking coach who will want to bring in guys that he hand picked and in 2 years we will get a new coach who wants his own guys.......... YOU CAN'T BUILD A TEAM IN 2 FUCKING YEARS
agreed, but we regressed in a big time way...from game 12 last yr to present day. We lose tonight, we lose the rest of the games, bank on it..even frisco will kick our ass. So it that is the case, we go 2-14, yeah, there better be some changes made because after yr 2 we are going backwards man...
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Cause your high. The Browns are awful.
The Browns are awful......mainly because they are coached terribly. So you are right.
I see where maybe they have at most 3-4 spots that could/should be filled/upgraded. (not counting injury)
The Browns are awful......mainly because they are coached terribly. So you are right.
I see where maybe they have at most 3-4 spots that could/should be filled/upgraded. (not counting injury)
Again Cleveland has maybe 6 players that other teams would want as a starter Benjamin, Barnidge, Schwartz, Thomas, Mack and Lee.
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I think you're correct about a lot of things, but the difficult part of the equation is figuring out exactly what is wrong. Honestly, that's above my pay grade. It's safe to say we need more talent,
I'm not sure firing Pettine would help, but at the same time, are we doing more damage by keeping potentially the wrong guy? I wish I knew.
Well,,,,,it's above my pay scale too......Im just saying that I dont believe Farmer, Pettine & Oneill are all incompetent....
But just firing everybody again would show me that Haslem IS incompetent and has no clue whats wrong with the team or how to hire the right people.....
My experience has always been that you can only win with talent....lots of talent......Ive never seen a great coach win it all without great players.....and, right now, we dont have any great players....
so, before switching coaches, Id at least wait to see what this one could do with the proper talent in place(and healthy).....
Well,,,,,it's above my pay scale too......Im just saying that I dont believe Farmer, Pettine & Oneill are all incompetent....
But just firing everybody again would show me that Haslem IS incompetent and has no clue whats wrong with the team or how to hire the right people.....
My experience has always been that you can only win with talent....lots of talent......Ive never seen a great coach win it all without great players.....and, right now, we dont have any great players....
so, before switching coaches, Id at least wait to see what this one could do with the proper talent in place(and healthy).....
If Mud and I agree it must be true but this is exactly what needs to be said. If we get the right talent and still can't win, see Detroit, then fire the coach
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The Browns are awful......mainly because they are coached terribly. So you are right.
I see where maybe they have at most 3-4 spots that could/should be filled/upgraded. (not counting injury)
Again Cleveland has maybe 6 players that other teams would want as a starter Benjamin, Barnidge, Schwartz, Thomas, Mack and Lee.
Again Cleveland has maybe 6 players that other teams would want as a starter Benjamin, Barnidge, Schwartz, Thomas, Mack and Lee.
I'd still take Haden.
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Let's please hope Pettine is still around next year or we're gonna get another round of the sports world laughing and peeing on us.
That being said, if Manning says i'll be the OC if you hire Dungy as HC.....ok deal. Then people would understand why we fired Pettine. But if we fire pettine and go into beggar mode again, "pweeeeeessee come to Cleveland"....the franchise is done. We don't fire another head coach for YEARS without his replacement ready to go next day.
Let's please hope Pettine is still around next year or we're gonna get another round of the sports world laughing and peeing on us.
That being said, if Manning says i'll be the OC if you hire Dungy as HC.....ok deal. Then people would understand why we fired Pettine. But if we fire pettine and go into beggar mode again, "pweeeeeessee come to Cleveland"....the franchise is done. We don't fire another head coach for YEARS without his replacement ready to go next day.
Are you serious?? I understand the consistency this team needs with coaching, BUT Pettine is a joke of a coach. Tonight's coaching snafu's weren't his first or even his 2nd. This is his 2nd year and the guy still has no clue what he is doing!
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Let's please hope Pettine is still around next year or we're gonna get another round of the sports world laughing and peeing on us.
That being said, if Manning says i'll be the OC if you hire Dungy as HC.....ok deal. Then people would understand why we fired Pettine. But if we fire pettine and go into beggar mode again, "pweeeeeessee come to Cleveland"....the franchise is done. We don't fire another head coach for YEARS without his replacement ready to go next day.
Are you serious?? I understand the consistency this team needs with coaching, BUT Pettine is a joke of a coach. Tonight's coaching snafu's weren't his first or even his 2nd. This is his 2nd year and the guy still has no clue what he is doing!
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The Browns are awful......mainly because they are coached terribly. So you are right.
I see where maybe they have at most 3-4 spots that could/should be filled/upgraded. (not counting injury)
Again Cleveland has maybe 6 players that other teams would want as a starter Benjamin, Barnidge, Schwartz, Thomas, Mack and Lee.
Again Cleveland has maybe 6 players that other teams would want as a starter Benjamin, Barnidge, Schwartz, Thomas, Mack and Lee.
A lot of their players would look better if they were better coached.
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Again Cleveland has maybe 6 players that other teams would want as a starter Benjamin, Barnidge, Schwartz, Thomas, Mack and Lee.
A lot of their players would look better if they were better coached.
A lot of their players would look better if they were better coached.
They'd look better if they played better.....
Just wait till we get a new coach, then you all will see that some of these guys just suck at their jobs......
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A lot of their players would look better if they were better coached.
They'd look better if they played better.....
Just wait till we get a new coach, then you all will see that some of these guys just suck at their jobs......
They'd look better if they played better.....
Just wait till we get a new coach, then you all will see that some of these guys just suck at their jobs......
Well, I agree that it is highly unfair to assess the value of some of these players due to the poor coaching they receive.
If we can get some good coaching......some real professional coaching and some real professional talent evaluators, and a number of these guys don't perform....then so be it. At least then, hopefully, we would really know.
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Again Cleveland has maybe 6 players that other teams would want as a starter Benjamin, Barnidge, Schwartz, Thomas, Mack and Lee.
I'd still take Haden.
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