Gruden
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Besides drive the bus that Dungy gased up for him to the super bowl. What's he ever done?? Besides getting fired and leaving a franchise competing with the browns for leagues worst. Oh these fickle browns fans thinking lightening in a bottle gonna walk into Berea.
Besides drive the bus that Dungy gased up for him to the super bowl. What's he ever done?? Besides getting fired and leaving a franchise competing with the browns for leagues worst. Oh these fickle browns fans thinking lightening in a bottle gonna walk into Berea.
I guess something with a bottle don't count
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Besides drive the bus that Dungy gased up for him to the super bowl. What's he ever done?? Besides getting fired and leaving a franchise competing with the browns for leagues worst. Oh these fickle browns fans thinking lightening in a bottle gonna walk into Berea.
Besides drive the bus that Dungy gased up for him to the super bowl. What's he ever done?? Besides getting fired and leaving a franchise competing with the browns for leagues worst. Oh these fickle browns fans thinking lightening in a bottle gonna walk into Berea.
Totally. We've got mike pettine and the leagues most expensive defense what more do we need?
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I don't know, I've always liked Gruden. Especially his QB camps. Qb's respect the man, he has a was of talking, like an eccentric uncle that keeps your attention. He bring passion and that is at least one thing that Pettine lacks. I would endorse Gruden as Head Coach, at least it'd be entertaining...
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This has probably been posted, but just in case:
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Gruden makes a reported $6.5 mill a year from ESPN, in what might be the best job on planet earth. If Gruden is the guy many people want, they better hope he still has that burning desire to coach, because I sure wouldn't leave that job he has, LOL.
If Gruden is hired, who does he bring in as coordinators? Who would be the GM? The general feeling I'm getting is that Ray Farmer SHOULD be gone as well, or is he a guy that just needs more time? We're going to have a VERY high pick this year, which obviously means we're going to have a high second round pick (a pick that should/could start). Does Haslam really want this guy in charge of another draft?
The first thing I would do if I was the new coach is I would reach out to Josh Gordon. I would publicly say that the Browns are committed to Gordon, and we have a plan for ensuring his compliance to league rules. I would do EVERYTHING in the world to get Josh Gordon back in a Browns uniform. We are a disaster in the red zone, we have too many tiny wr's, and we lack big play ability. We need Gordon as much as he needs us. Gordon is not Blackmon from Jacksonville. I truly believe (for some reason) that we're going to see Gordon play again, and he's going to play well for us.
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This has probably been posted, but just in case:
This has probably been posted, but just in case:
I am as frustrated as any other Browns fan right now but I am still of the belief Pettine should get another year to turn the team around. Even in the article the author states he also believes Pettine should get one more year:
"I still believe Pettine deserves another year to turn the Browns around. But if Haslam blows up the front office and coaching staff again he should push hard for Gruden."
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I completely see both sides of the argument. Obviously nobody is asking ME what I think in the Browns organization, LOL, but SOMETHING has to change...I just don't know what. I honestly do believe the team needs more talent, but from what I've seen in the NFL, GM's tend to outlast coaches. Perhaps I'm wrong. God forbid Pettine get a first round player that makes a damn impact.
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Gruden makes a reported $6.5 mill a year from ESPN, in what might be the best job on planet earth. If Gruden is the guy many people want, they better hope he still has that burning desire to coach, because I sure wouldn't leave that job he has, LOL.
If Gruden is hired, who does he bring in as coordinators? Who would be the GM? The general feeling I'm getting is that Ray Farmer SHOULD be gone as well, or is he a guy that just needs more time? We're going to have a VERY high pick this year, which obviously means we're going to have a high second round pick (a pick that should/could start). Does Haslam really want this guy in charge of another draft?
The first thing I would do if I was the new coach is I would reach out to Josh Gordon. I would publicly say that the Browns are committed to Gordon, and we have a plan for ensuring his compliance to league rules. I would do EVERYTHING in the world to get Josh Gordon back in a Browns uniform. We are a disaster in the red zone, we have too many tiny wr's, and we lack big play ability. We need Gordon as much as he needs us. Gordon is not Blackmon from Jacksonville. I truly believe (for some reason) that we're going to see Gordon play again, and he's going to play well for us.
Gruden makes a reported $6.5 mill a year from ESPN, in what might be the best job on planet earth. If Gruden is the guy many people want, they better hope he still has that burning desire to coach, because I sure wouldn't leave that job he has, LOL.
He might, maybe he just loves coaching that much. He could probably go back to broadcasting in 2 years when he gets fired anyway.
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I see both sides too but feel we have been down this road too many times where after 2 years if the team is not turned around we blow things up and start over. This has never worked out for us and we have been trying this formula since 99. One thing I give Pettine credit for is something the article also brings out and that is the players do play hard for Pettine and don't quit even with their record.
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Chucky got the Tampa job after coaching Da Raidah's to competency -
I am ok with Pettine coming back, but he's had the "Oh Shit This Has Gotten Away From Me" vibe creep into his last presser. He looks bewildered, or as Led Zeppelin would say Dazed and Confused. If I'm in Haslam's shoes i am more worried about Pettines demeanor. That may be why he gets fired.
He had the look of a beaten man Monday.
Farmer has to go. It would have been better to have fired Farmer some weeks back to start the next search.
At this point, if Chucky would come here, why not?
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Here is what one well respected person said that the Browns need:
A. A President of Football Operations. Sort of like what we had when Holmgren was here, but someone actually dedicated to the job, not someone wanting to sit on his fat lazy ass and collect a paycheck. A Bill Polian type.
(not Alex Scheiner....he would be
B. That PFO would then select a GM/Personnel Director. Hopefully somebody with a sharp eye for talent.
C. Then those two together would select a head coach.
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I was saying it in the Tavern last night. Gruden honestly seemed like he was lobbying for a job next year.
I don't see why he'd ever leave his cushy broadcasting job, but there were multiple hints that he could. The fact that there's tons of articles out there about it only reinforce that we're not alone in seeing it.
I was saying it in the Tavern last night. Gruden honestly seemed like he was lobbying for a job next year.
I don't see why he'd ever leave his cushy broadcasting job, but there were multiple hints that he could. The fact that there's tons of articles out there about it only reinforce that we're not alone in seeing it.
And, besides, I think he's an excellent live commentator.
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Chucky got the Tampa job after coaching Da Raidah's to competency -
I am ok with Pettine coming back, but he's had the "Oh Shit This Has Gotten Away From Me" vibe creep into his last presser. He looks bewildered, or as Led Zeppelin would say Dazed and Confused. If I'm in Haslam's shoes i am more worried about Pettines demeanor. That may be why he gets fired.
He had the look of a beaten man Monday.
Farmer has to go. It would have been better to have fired Farmer some weeks back to start the next search.
At this point, if Chucky would come here, why not?
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We could lure Jon with the promise of changing the team name to "The Cleveland Grudens".
Might stroke his ego enough... but I doubt it.
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The one big plus I see for Gruden would be his ability to draw players and coaches here that we haven't had a chance to get the past few years. Hire another nobody, and Berea will be a ghost town.
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Anyway, I'm in favor of firing Gruden after he wins a Super Bowl in Cleveland.
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We'll probably pickup somebody like the 49ers LB coach to replace Pettine.
I'd love gruden here, but you have to fire Pettine before you get your answer. Can't start calling anybody until he's gone.
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We'll probably pickup somebody like the 49ers LB coach to replace Pettine.
I'd love gruden here, but you have to fire Pettine before you get your answer. Can't start calling anybody until he's gone.
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We'll probably pickup somebody like the 49ers LB coach to replace Pettine.
I'd love gruden here, but you have to fire Pettine before you get your answer. Can't start calling anybody until he's gone.
I'd love gruden here, but you have to fire Pettine before you get your answer. Can't start calling anybody until he's gone.
Sure you can.......you dont have to fire Pettine to start looking.....and you can call anyone, provided they aren't under contract with another team......
And....if you want.....you can even contact employed Coaches to discuss HC jobs, provided they aren't already HC's.......
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