San Bernardino
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Just applying some logic routinely used on this board:
If they didn't have that SUV it would have been harder for them to transport their "assault gear" and to actually travel to the site.
You're a smart guy, don't go down that tired route.
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A refresher:
"Yes a knife can kill, but it's easier to kill more with a gun."
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A refresher:
"Yes a knife can kill, but it's easier to kill more with a gun."
A refresher:
"Yes a knife can kill, but it's easier to kill more with a gun."
This is true, of course.
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As soon as I heard there was three I knew it was muslims. All the democeans wasted no time in calling for gun control. So let me get this straight...you want to take our guns AND you want us to allow tons of muslim "refugees" into the country? Yeah sounds like a plan.
As soon as I heard there was three I knew it was muslims. All the democeans wasted no time in calling for gun control. So let me get this straight...you want to take our guns AND you want us to allow tons of muslim "refugees" into the country? Yeah sounds like a plan.
Spot on. Liberal logic 101.
As usual there are liberals who will blame the NRA and call for gun control as soon as something like this happens which goes along with their thinking about not letting a crisis go to waste...use the crisis to advocate for their agenda. They can't seem to grasp a simple concept that criminals and those bent on doing evil deeds don't care about new gun laws or signs on doors that read "gun free zones". They are meaningless to them as these laws only affect those who obey laws in the first place and these people who obey laws are not the problem.
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A refresher:
"Yes a knife can kill, but it's easier to kill more with a gun."
This is true, of course.
Then you should have no trouble understanding the logic structure.This is true, of course.
"I can carry assault gear, and walk to the site, but it's easier to transport it and myself in a SUV."
Can we agree the SUV, like the gun(s) isn't/aren't the problem
Sure, luck means a lot in football. Not having a good quarterback is bad luck. -Don Shula -
Then you should have no trouble understanding the logic structure.
"I can carry assault gear, and walk to the site, but it's easier to transport it and myself in a SUV."
Can we agree the SUV, like the gun(s) isn't/aren't the problem
We can agree the SUV isn't the problem, for sure.
I'm going to argue that the "assault gear" is the problem though.
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Then you should have no trouble understanding the logic structure.
"I can carry assault gear, and walk to the site, but it's easier to transport it and myself in a SUV."
Can we agree the SUV, like the gun(s) isn't/aren't the problem
While I agree that in this current climate, disarming U.S citizens while allowing these fucks into the country is beyond Retard, to say your logic string here is fail is being nice. Equating an SUV with a gun that was built for one purpose and one purpose only........I mean just stop. We can have other valid arguments but this constant insistence on your part to equate guns with other innocuous "things" is getting absurd.
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People who are on the no fly list can buy guns.
It'd probably be good to have some sort of law to prohibit that, don't ya think?
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I'm not saying that would have prevented this or many others obviously, but dismissing every kind of gun reform is foolish.
Mohammed Al-Zarkaweri-Fleshbong who is on the no-fly list because he's a suspected terrorist shouldn't be able to go buy an AR-15.
At least in my opinion.
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People who are on the no fly list can buy guns.
It'd probably be good to have some sort of law to prohibit that, don't ya think?
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I'm not saying that would have prevented this or many others obviously, but dismissing every kind of gun reform is foolish.
Mohammed Al-Zarkaweri-Fleshbong who is on the no-fly list because he's a suspected terrorist shouldn't be able to go buy an AR-15.
At least in my opinion.
People who are on the no fly list can buy guns.
It'd probably be good to have some sort of law to prohibit that, don't ya think?
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I'm not saying that would have prevented this or many others obviously, but dismissing every kind of gun reform is foolish.
Mohammed Al-Zarkaweri-Fleshbong who is on the no-fly list because he's a suspected terrorist shouldn't be able to go buy an AR-15.
At least in my opinion.
That isn't already a law?
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People who are on the no fly list can buy guns.
It'd probably be good to have some sort of law to prohibit that, don't ya think?
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I'm not saying that would have prevented this or many others obviously, but dismissing every kind of gun reform is foolish.
Mohammed Al-Zarkaweri-Fleshbong who is on the no-fly list because he's a suspected terrorist shouldn't be able to go buy an AR-15.
At least in my opinion.
That isn't already a law?
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People who are on the no fly list can buy guns.
It'd probably be good to have some sort of law to prohibit that, don't ya think?
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I'm not saying that would have prevented this or many others obviously, but dismissing every kind of gun reform is foolish.
Mohammed Al-Zarkaweri-Fleshbong who is on the no-fly list because he's a suspected terrorist shouldn't be able to go buy an AR-15.
At least in my opinion.
People who are on the no fly list can buy guns.
It'd probably be good to have some sort of law to prohibit that, don't ya think?
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I'm not saying that would have prevented this or many others obviously, but dismissing every kind of gun reform is foolish.
Mohammed Al-Zarkaweri-Fleshbong who is on the no-fly list because he's a suspected terrorist shouldn't be able to go buy an AR-15.
At least in my opinion.
There are a number of problems that need to be resolved mainly as who gets on this list...I think at one time sen. Ted Kennedy was on the list...
How A Journalist Ended Up On A Terror Watch List
http://www.npr.org/2014/09/28/352290026/how-a-journalist-ended-up-on-a-terror-watch-list
Here’s Why People on the “No Fly List” Should Be Able to Buy Guns
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OBF, when your thinking is "but what if an innocent person can't get a gun" rather than "but why can suspected terrorists get a gun" then something's not right.
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OBF, when your thinking is "but what if an innocent person can't get a gun" rather than "but why can suspected terrorists get a gun" then something's not right.
OBF, when your thinking is "but what if an innocent person can't get a gun" rather than "but why can suspected terrorists get a gun" then something's not right.
When your thinking is the answer is to suspend our constitution something is not right as well. When we suspend our constitution to fight terrorism the terrorists have already won.
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People who are on the no fly list can buy guns.
It'd probably be good to have some sort of law to prohibit that, don't ya think?
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I'm not saying that would have prevented this or many others obviously, but dismissing every kind of gun reform is foolish.
Mohammed Al-Zarkaweri-Fleshbong who is on the no-fly list because he's a suspected terrorist shouldn't be able to go buy an AR-15.
At least in my opinion.
There are a number of problems that need to be resolved mainly as who gets on this list...I think at one time sen. Ted Kennedy was on the list...
How A Journalist Ended Up On A Terror Watch List
http://www.npr.org/2014/09/28/352290026/how-a-journalist-ended-up-on-a-terror-watch-list
Here’s Why People on the “No Fly List” Should Be Able to Buy Guns
There are a number of problems that need to be resolved mainly as who gets on this list...I think at one time sen. Ted Kennedy was on the list...
How A Journalist Ended Up On A Terror Watch List
http://www.npr.org/2014/09/28/352290026/how-a-journalist-ended-up-on-a-terror-watch-list
Here’s Why People on the “No Fly List” Should Be Able to Buy Guns
That isn't already a law?
See? Told you so, people are crazy here. I'm sure Cal and many others also think no fly list guys should be able to go buy guns at will.
We have about 100,000 people on the no-fly list I believe and 1,000,000 people on the terrorist watch list (at least one of the major ones). They can all go buy AR-15s whenever they want.
It takes about 30 days to get your name off of the list - documentation reviewed by Homeland Security, etc.
The 0.00002% of Americans who get put on the list accidentially can deal with the inconvenience (Can't buy a gun for 30 days) if it means keeping the other 99.999% of us safer.
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The terrorist (male) purchased the handguns legally. The rifles were purchased by someone else, not sure how he obtained those.
The arms used in Paris I read were obtained in Germany. Don't they have strict gun control laws there?
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OBF, when your thinking is "but what if an innocent person can't get a gun" rather than "but why can suspected terrorists get a gun" then something's not right.
When your thinking is the answer is to suspend our constitution something is not right as well. When we suspend our constitution to fight terrorism the terrorists have already won.
When your thinking is the answer is to suspend our constitution something is not right as well. When we suspend our constitution to fight terrorism the terrorists have already won.
You already suspend your constitution plenty. Prisoners, drug addicts, mental patients, and a bunch of other groups of people aren't allowed to buy guns.
So, given that the 'suspending the constitution = terrorists winning' argument doesn't hold much water, why should suspected terrorists be allowed to buy guns exactly?
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Then you should have no trouble understanding the logic structure.
"I can carry assault gear, and walk to the site, but it's easier to transport it and myself in a SUV."
Can we agree the SUV, like the gun(s) isn't/aren't the problem
While I agree that in this current climate, disarming U.S citizens while allowing these fucks into the country is beyond Retard, to say your logic string here is fail is being nice. Equating an SUV with a gun that was built for one purpose and one purpose only........I mean just stop. We can have other valid arguments but this constant insistence on your part to equate guns with other innocuous "things" is getting absurd.
I wasn't expecting any level of comprehension from you. Thanks for not letting me down.While I agree that in this current climate, disarming U.S citizens while allowing these fucks into the country is beyond Retard, to say your logic string here is fail is being nice. Equating an SUV with a gun that was built for one purpose and one purpose only........I mean just stop. We can have other valid arguments but this constant insistence on your part to equate guns with other innocuous "things" is getting absurd.
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The bill would give the attorney general discretion to “deny the transfer of a firearm” if he or she “determines that the transferee is known (or appropriately suspected) to be or have been engaged in conduct constituting, in preparation for, in aid of, or related to terrorism, or providing material support or resources for terrorism” and “has a reasonable belief that the prospective transferee may use a firearm in connection with terrorism.”
In other words, the bill would have given the [Democratic] Attorney General of the United States the power to define terrorism, and then deny anyone who falls under his or her definition their natural, civil and Constitutionally protected right to keep and bear arms. Based on the AG’s “reasonable belief.”
Statism baby! That’s how the Dems roll.
The Obama administration’s no-fly lists and broader watchlisting system is based on predicting crimes rather than relying on records of demonstrated offenses, the government has been forced to admit in court.In a little-noticed filing before an Oregon federal judge, the US Justice Department and the FBI conceded that stopping US and other citizens from travelling on airplanes is a matter of “predictive assessments about potential threats”, the government asserted in May . . .The declaration comes in a longstanding case, brought by the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), arguing that the government does not provide significant steps for someone caught in the “predictive assessments” to get off the blacklists.Note that the above-named Senators (not to mention our NY RINO pal Peter King in the House and his Democratic pals) want to duplicate the No-Fly List to create a No-Gun List. It would involve the same secret determination according to secret criteria, without prior judicial oversight.
While the No-Fly List appeals process is ultimately adjudicated by . . . wait for it . . . the Transportation Safety Administration, someone on the No-Gun List would have to take Uncle Sam to court, where they would NOT be able to see the evidence against them (ex parte all the way baby!).
While we await the return of the No-Gun list proposal, the civilian disarmament industrial complex continues its clarion call for federal laws to prohibit people on the No-Fly list from purchasing firearms. This recent revelation about the No-Fly list’s unproven, unconstitutional “predictive” process should completely undermine that effort. But won’t.
On Friday, the ACLU asked Judge Anna Brown to conduct her own review of the error rate in the government’s predictions modeling – a process the ACLU likens to the “pre-crime” of Philip K Dick’s science fiction. -
People who are on the no fly list can buy guns.
It'd probably be good to have some sort of law to prohibit that, don't ya think?
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I'm not saying that would have prevented this or many others obviously, but dismissing every kind of gun reform is foolish.
Mohammed Al-Zarkaweri-Fleshbong who is on the no-fly list because he's a suspected terrorist shouldn't be able to go buy an AR-15.
At least in my opinion.
He also shouldn't be in our country.People who are on the no fly list can buy guns.
It'd probably be good to have some sort of law to prohibit that, don't ya think?
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I'm not saying that would have prevented this or many others obviously, but dismissing every kind of gun reform is foolish.
Mohammed Al-Zarkaweri-Fleshbong who is on the no-fly list because he's a suspected terrorist shouldn't be able to go buy an AR-15.
At least in my opinion.
Gun problem solved.
Sure, luck means a lot in football. Not having a good quarterback is bad luck. -Don Shula -
So, you posted the link, then dumped the text from the link? I'm capable of clicking on the link. It basically said "government baaaaaad"
"...based on predicting crimes rather than relying on records of demonstrated offenses..." So, now we're saying intelligence is a bad thing?
Aside from being scared of the governmental boogie man, what legitimate reasons are there for allowing suspected terrorists to buy guns?
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