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Donald Trump says ban all Muslims traveling to US

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  • LogicIsForSquares LogicIsForSquaresL Dedicated Reacting Well Conversation Starter Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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    If he had worded it as "we won't accept refugees from high risk countries" that would have played much better. You can't refuse immigrants based on their religion if potential terrorist attacks are your gripe. ISIS would just tell all their members to claim that they are Christians and go back to business as usual.

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      I'd be just as happy to be isolationists. Stop all immigration, period. Wall up both borders and put out foriegn military presence on the walls and call it a day. Fix our own problems first. Unfortunately that's not going to happen so the least we could do is stop immigration from countries where an avowed goal of a significant percentage of the population is the utter destruction of our way of life.

      Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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        C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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        What Logic said, plus, hundreds of thousands have fled to Europe, so

        you're back to trying to figure out how to vet middle eastern

        refugees from there, too.

        You have to find out where they originated from.

        But we have to stop it now, slow it way the hell down... until we can stop terrorists

        from ever getting in... it will take time.

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          I'd be just as happy to be isolationists. Stop all immigration, period. Wall up both borders and put out foriegn military presence on the walls and call it a day. Fix our own problems first. Unfortunately that's not going to happen so the least we could do is stop immigration from countries where an avowed goal of a significant percentage of the population is the utter destruction of our way of life.

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          C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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          @the-cysko-kid said:

          I'd be just as happy to be isolationists. Stop all immigration, period. Wall up both borders and put out foriegn military presence on the walls and call it a day. Fix our own problems first. Unfortunately that's not going to happen so the least we could do is stop immigration from countries where an avowed goal of a significant percentage of the population is the utter destruction of our way of life.

          I agree but you would have to couple that with a significant withdrawal of our military from their lands. And frankly other lands too. We have to many soldiers stationed too many damn places. And invariably they piss people off for one reason or another. I would leave soldiers in Korea and that's about it.

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            I'd be just as happy to be isolationists. Stop all immigration, period. Wall up both borders and put out foriegn military presence on the walls and call it a day. Fix our own problems first. Unfortunately that's not going to happen so the least we could do is stop immigration from countries where an avowed goal of a significant percentage of the population is the utter destruction of our way of life.

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            gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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            @the-cysko-kid said:

            I'd be just as happy to be isolationists. Stop all immigration, period. Wall up both borders and put out foriegn military presence on the walls and call it a day. Fix our own problems first. Unfortunately that's not going to happen so the least we could do is stop immigration from countries where an avowed goal of a significant percentage of the population is the utter destruction of our way of life.

            Does that mean no tourism as well? No foreign imports of goods? Declared immigration is not the only way to enter a country.

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              T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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              Fine by me

              Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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                How do you put people back in manufacturing jobs? Stop importing cheap foreign goods.

                Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                  How do you put people back in manufacturing jobs? Stop importing cheap foreign goods.

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                  gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                  @the-cysko-kid said:

                  How do you put people back in manufacturing jobs? Stop importing cheap foreign goods.

                  There are things you need to import from abroad though, not just cars and electronics. Raw materials, for example.

                  You'd also essentially bankrupt every international airline.

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                    How do you put people back in manufacturing jobs? Stop importing cheap foreign goods.

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                    LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                    @the-cysko-kid said:

                    How do you put people back in manufacturing jobs? Stop importing cheap foreign goods.

                    The price of items would sky rocket. I understand your thought process but every country that has tried this idea has ended up tanking their economy.

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                      gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                      Does it also mean nobody out? I mean if there's no planes coming out, nobody's allowed to leave the country. I'm sure the world won't mind a few less American tourists 😉

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                        Does it also mean nobody out? I mean if there's no planes coming out, nobody's allowed to leave the country. I'm sure the world won't mind a few less American tourists 😉

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                        LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                        @gftchris said:

                        Does it also mean nobody out? I mean if there's no planes coming out, nobody's allowed to leave the country. I'm sure the world won't mind a few less American tourists 😉

                        I will escape so I can wear fanny packs and socks with sandals on your island.

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                          bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by bbedward
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                          Agree on the part that Trump saying "all muslims" is bad wording, but he had ample chance to correct himself or revise the statement and didn't.

                          Secondly I think most people don't understand how the economy works.

                          Our economy has started/mostly "evolved" from the old days of manufacturing goods, etc. We're at the point where people have higher wages, more skill positions, more service positions, etc.

                          Aside from that, I see all these people screaming for "bring our manufacturing jobs back" "stop importing foreign goods"

                          It's not that easy. People have higher standards of living here, demand higher wages. If we manufactured most goods here - then prices would balloon, consumption would go way down. We wouldn't be able to compete internationally (who would want to import a 100%-US made Ford, when it'd cost them 2x as much as what they are making elsewhere).

                          We have plenty of issues, but they aren't quite as simple as isolating ourselves from the rest of the world - basically 10% of the population owns the 90%, pretty big problem that the simple isolationist bring back manufacturing approach would magnify ten-fold.

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                          Hey, maybe we could work to drive up wages for some of the skill positions, service positions, etc that our economy has become driven by in this 21st century? Stop paying CEOs 5000% more than the average worker?

                          Oh wait, that makes too much sense.

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                            DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                            Banning all Muslims would be a great idea, and I'm glad he has the balls to just say it.

                            "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                              @the-cysko-kid said:

                              How do you put people back in manufacturing jobs? Stop importing cheap foreign goods.

                              The price of items would sky rocket. I understand your thought process but every country that has tried this idea has ended up tanking their economy.

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                              T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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                              @logicisforsquares said:

                              The price of items would sky rocket. I understand your thought process but every country that has tried this idea has ended up tanking their economy.

                              The economy is already in dire need of a full overhaul. But as I think I said in my original statement that isolationism is impossible and isn't going to happen

                              Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                @logicisforsquares said:

                                The price of items would sky rocket. I understand your thought process but every country that has tried this idea has ended up tanking their economy.

                                The economy is already in dire need of a full overhaul. But as I think I said in my original statement that isolationism is impossible and isn't going to happen

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                                gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                                @the-cysko-kid said:

                                The economy is already in dire need of a full overhaul. But as I think I said in my original statement that isolationism is impossible and isn't going to happen

                                It's also a ridiculous idea that would fall flat on its face.

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                                  T The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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                                  Suck it chris. I rarely get pissed off in posts bit right now you're accomplishing it.

                                  Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                    Suck it chris. I rarely get pissed off in posts bit right now you're accomplishing it.

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                                    gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                                    @the-cysko-kid said:

                                    Suck it chris. I rarely get pissed off in posts bit right now you're accomplishing it.

                                    By calling out your stupidity?

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                                      C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                                      by making all of us put up with your assholeness, Chris.

                                      You go ahead and be a gun free society and welcome terrorists into your

                                      country, we'll pass.

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                                        LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                                        I guess I am just disagreeing with Chris and not pissed off at him.

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