First Draft Pick Must be a QB - Paxton
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does anyone see a future HOFer in this draft?......I sure dont.....
if any player is to be called that, Id say Bosa is the best bet tho....
But, there are no slam dunks this year.....which figures....considering our luck with the draft....
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does anyone see a future HOFer in this draft?......I sure dont.....
if any player is to be called that, Id say Bosa is the best bet tho....
But, there are no slam dunks this year.....which figures....considering our luck with the draft....
does anyone see a future HOFer in this draft?......I sure dont.....
if any player is to be called that, Id say Bosa is the best bet tho....
But, there are no slam dunks this year.....which figures....considering our luck with the draft....
Every time this comes up I think of the fucking colts. They happen to be the worst team in a year with peyton manning, then happen to be the worst team after ditching him and getting andrew luck.
Shit, there's some 10 year old someone in america that's going to be a hall of fame QB, declare for the draft a year after the colts ditch luck and they'll be top of the draft to select him.
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does anyone see a future HOFer in this draft?......I sure dont.....
if any player is to be called that, Id say Bosa is the best bet tho....
But, there are no slam dunks this year.....which figures....considering our luck with the draft....
Every time this comes up I think of the fucking colts. They happen to be the worst team in a year with peyton manning, then happen to be the worst team after ditching him and getting andrew luck.
Shit, there's some 10 year old someone in america that's going to be a hall of fame QB, declare for the draft a year after the colts ditch luck and they'll be top of the draft to select him.
Every time this comes up I think of the fucking colts. They happen to be the worst team in a year with peyton manning, then happen to be the worst team after ditching him and getting andrew luck.
Shit, there's some 10 year old someone in america that's going to be a hall of fame QB, declare for the draft a year after the colts ditch luck and they'll be top of the draft to select him.
They were also the team with the worst record the year Elway was drafted....he just refused to play for them.....
In terms of winning games leading upto drafting luck, they won 12-12-14-12-13-12-14-10....then only 2....then back to 11-11-11.....
HTF does THAT happen?.....(conspiracy)....
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It happens by putting Dan Orlovksy in as your QB.
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Every time this comes up I think of the fucking colts. They happen to be the worst team in a year with peyton manning, then happen to be the worst team after ditching him and getting andrew luck.
Shit, there's some 10 year old someone in america that's going to be a hall of fame QB, declare for the draft a year after the colts ditch luck and they'll be top of the draft to select him.
They were also the team with the worst record the year Elway was drafted....he just refused to play for them.....
In terms of winning games leading upto drafting luck, they won 12-12-14-12-13-12-14-10....then only 2....then back to 11-11-11.....
HTF does THAT happen?.....(conspiracy)....
They were also the team with the worst record the year Elway was drafted....he just refused to play for them.....
In terms of winning games leading upto drafting luck, they won 12-12-14-12-13-12-14-10....then only 2....then back to 11-11-11.....
HTF does THAT happen?.....(conspiracy)....
There are no ifs, ands or buts about the fact that the Colts purposely tanked nearly all games that year so they could draft Luck.
Hell, at this point they probably wouldn't deny it.
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Biggest areas of need are LB and WR.
Unless there's a sure fire elite QB (and I don't see any) the Browns need to field any offers for that #1 pick.
Let's just hope we have someone other than Farmer picking.
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does anyone see a future HOFer in this draft?......I sure dont.....
if any player is to be called that, Id say Bosa is the best bet tho....
But, there are no slam dunks this year.....which figures....considering our luck with the draft....
does anyone see a future HOFer in this draft?......I sure dont.....
if any player is to be called that, Id say Bosa is the best bet tho....
But, there are no slam dunks this year.....which figures....considering our luck with the draft....
There have been very few if any years in which a HOF player was not drafted.
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And let's not forget that the draft in April won't look a thing like it does now. Wasn't Bridewater thought for a while to be the number 1 pick, and then he had people saying he had a small frame and a bad pro day and POOF....he drops. There will always be players that rocket up the list, and some that will fall.
If indeed we do need another QB, I'm excited about the end of the first round talent. I'm going to look at the second tier QB group today and see what's out there. I think people might laugh at this, but I'd be ok with McCown being the guy next year with a revamped team. How about McCown throwing to Gordon, Barnidge, Duke, Benji? Sure, we need more talent and depth, but that's a decent start to me.
I'd love to see a new running back and an established OL coach. I won't lie, watching Erving get thrown around like a little bitch scares the crap out of me, but he's young. Most definitely not writing him off. I think our team is going to look a lot different next year, but I'm still hoping we can see some of our young guys battle and improve.
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does anyone see a future HOFer in this draft?......I sure dont.....
if any player is to be called that, Id say Bosa is the best bet tho....
But, there are no slam dunks this year.....which figures....considering our luck with the draft....
There have been very few if any years in which a HOF player was not drafted.
There have been very few if any years in which a HOF player was not drafted.
Right....and even fewer years where those HOF player were obvious "before" the draft....
So...which one is it this year?
Out of 300ish members in the HOF, how many were selected first pick?.......only 13(and only 1 overall #1 has made it in the last 30 years, with none on the horizon)
Out of ALL the overall 1st picks in the draft, how many were ROY?....only 5
So....yep....there may be a HOFer every year....but its rare to know who that is......and it's extremely rare when the draft has a slam dunk #1 who then becomes a HOFer....compared to how many years the best players are hotly debated as to who is #1.....
Most HOFers come later in the draft and, usually, no one sees them coming.....
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There have been very few if any years in which a HOF player was not drafted.
Right....and even fewer years where those HOF player were obvious "before" the draft....
So...which one is it this year?
Out of 300ish members in the HOF, how many were selected first pick?.......only 13(and only 1 overall #1 has made it in the last 30 years, with none on the horizon)
Out of ALL the overall 1st picks in the draft, how many were ROY?....only 5
So....yep....there may be a HOFer every year....but its rare to know who that is......and it's extremely rare when the draft has a slam dunk #1 who then becomes a HOFer....compared to how many years the best players are hotly debated as to who is #1.....
Most HOFers come later in the draft and, usually, no one sees them coming.....
Right....and even fewer years where those HOF player were obvious "before" the draft....
True
So...which one is it this year?
Out of 300ish members in the HOF, how many were selected first pick?.......only 13(and only 1 overall #1 has made it in the last 30 years, with none on the horizon)
Orlando Pace and Peyton Manning are pretty sure things. And Luck and Newton certainly are on a pretty good track.. though sure, not certain.
A few "borderline but not quite" are there: Bledsoe, Carson Palmer...and Eli might could make it. His gross numbers could approach his brothers when all is said and done...and he has those 2 titles.
Out of ALL the overall 1st picks in the draft, how many were ROY?....only 5
So....yep....there may be a HOFer every year....but its rare to know who that is......and it's extremely rare when the draft has a slam dunk #1 who then becomes a HOFer....compared to how many years the best players are hotly debated as to who is #1.....
Most HOFers come later in the draft and, usually, no one sees them coming.....
But there still have been more HOF players drafted in the first round....and high in the first round, than any other draft slotting.
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Right....and even fewer years where those HOF player were obvious "before" the draft....
True
So...which one is it this year?
Out of 300ish members in the HOF, how many were selected first pick?.......only 13(and only 1 overall #1 has made it in the last 30 years, with none on the horizon)
Orlando Pace and Peyton Manning are pretty sure things. And Luck and Newton certainly are on a pretty good track.. though sure, not certain.
A few "borderline but not quite" are there: Bledsoe, Carson Palmer...and Eli might could make it. His gross numbers could approach his brothers when all is said and done...and he has those 2 titles.
Out of ALL the overall 1st picks in the draft, how many were ROY?....only 5
So....yep....there may be a HOFer every year....but its rare to know who that is......and it's extremely rare when the draft has a slam dunk #1 who then becomes a HOFer....compared to how many years the best players are hotly debated as to who is #1.....
Most HOFers come later in the draft and, usually, no one sees them coming.....
But there still have been more HOF players drafted in the first round....and high in the first round, than any other draft slotting.
Dont question that at all.....the better players are picked first....and they are the most likely to go to the HOF.....
I just said I dont "see an obvious HOFer" in this draft".....pretty simple.....and I dont see a slam dunk #1....
Do you?....if so, who?
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Right....and even fewer years where those HOF player were obvious "before" the draft....
True
So...which one is it this year?
Out of 300ish members in the HOF, how many were selected first pick?.......only 13(and only 1 overall #1 has made it in the last 30 years, with none on the horizon)
Orlando Pace and Peyton Manning are pretty sure things. And Luck and Newton certainly are on a pretty good track.. though sure, not certain.
A few "borderline but not quite" are there: Bledsoe, Carson Palmer...and Eli might could make it. His gross numbers could approach his brothers when all is said and done...and he has those 2 titles.
Out of ALL the overall 1st picks in the draft, how many were ROY?....only 5
So....yep....there may be a HOFer every year....but its rare to know who that is......and it's extremely rare when the draft has a slam dunk #1 who then becomes a HOFer....compared to how many years the best players are hotly debated as to who is #1.....
Most HOFers come later in the draft and, usually, no one sees them coming.....
But there still have been more HOF players drafted in the first round....and high in the first round, than any other draft slotting.
Right....and even fewer years where those HOF player were obvious "before" the draft....
True
So...which one is it this year?
Out of 300ish members in the HOF, how many were selected first pick?.......only 13(and only 1 overall #1 has made it in the last 30 years, with none on the horizon)
Orlando Pace and Peyton Manning are pretty sure things. And Luck and Newton certainly are on a pretty good track.. though sure, not certain.
A few "borderline but not quite" are there: Bledsoe, Carson Palmer...and Eli might could make it. His gross numbers could approach his brothers when all is said and done...and he has those 2 titles.
Out of ALL the overall 1st picks in the draft, how many were ROY?....only 5
So....yep....there may be a HOFer every year....but its rare to know who that is......and it's extremely rare when the draft has a slam dunk #1 who then becomes a HOFer....compared to how many years the best players are hotly debated as to who is #1.....
Most HOFers come later in the draft and, usually, no one sees them coming.....
But there still have been more HOF players drafted in the first round....and high in the first round, than any other draft slotting.
And that brings us to the Triumverate: The Three people who: Were Heisman trophy winners.....and #1 pick in the draft...and are in the PFHOF:
Paul Hornung
OJ Simpson
Earl Campbell.
Who could join this group: again....Palmer, borderline (he wins the next 2 Super Bowls...he would get in probably). Futuristic: Cam Newton
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Dont question that at all.....the better players are picked first....and they are the most likely to go to the HOF.....
I just said I dont "see an obvious HOFer" in this draft".....pretty simple.....and I dont see a slam dunk #1....
Do you?....if so, who?
Dont question that at all.....the better players are picked first....and they are the most likely to go to the HOF.....
I just said I dont "see an obvious HOFer" in this draft".....pretty simple.....and I dont see a slam dunk #1....
Do you?....if so, who?
Bosa seems to be the consensus best player per the reports I read....but slam dunk? Probably not. A team desperate for a QB could overide that choice.
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Dont question that at all.....the better players are picked first....and they are the most likely to go to the HOF.....
I just said I dont "see an obvious HOFer" in this draft".....pretty simple.....and I dont see a slam dunk #1....
Do you?....if so, who?
Dont question that at all.....the better players are picked first....and they are the most likely to go to the HOF.....
I just said I dont "see an obvious HOFer" in this draft".....pretty simple.....and I dont see a slam dunk #1....
Do you?....if so, who?
I totally agree which is why I indicated that if no one rises to that level then we need to go the trade down option early and often to fill the needs we know that we really do have. Identifying those needs is far easier to see than a "slam dunk" at #1.
Of course you all know JM is gonna throw a monkey wrench into all this by leading the team to 3 wins and out of the 1st overall pick, right?
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Dont question that at all.....the better players are picked first....and they are the most likely to go to the HOF.....
I just said I dont "see an obvious HOFer" in this draft".....pretty simple.....and I dont see a slam dunk #1....
Do you?....if so, who?
I totally agree which is why I indicated that if no one rises to that level then we need to go the trade down option early and often to fill the needs we know that we really do have. Identifying those needs is far easier to see than a "slam dunk" at #1.
Of course you all know JM is gonna throw a monkey wrench into all this by leading the team to 3 wins and out of the 1st overall pick, right?
I totally agree which is why I indicated that if no one rises to that level then we need to go the trade down option early and often to fill the needs we know that we really do have. Identifying those needs is far easier to see than a "slam dunk" at #1.
Of course you all know JM is gonna throw a monkey wrench into all this by leading the team to 3 wins and out of the 1st overall pick, right?
Im gonna agree there.....I dont know how much the first pick is worth this year, considering the lack of superstars.....and Ive heard no one else has 2 picks in the first......so Id strongly consider a trade back for something like a top 10 1st and 2nd rounder....plus next years first...(or a great LB, RB or WR if they happen to have one to trade)...
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i'm back and forth on Bosa now. On the one hand I don't want some kid here who didn't just disrespect the org, which would have been well deserved, but he shit on the city. He has to play for that 2nd contract though so he can't come here and fuck off. On the other hand....if we were to take him that would almost guarantee that we're moving to a 4-3 as I believe he's adamant that he's not going to be 5 tech or a cover OLB'er. He's willing to be a drop back DE who will play DT in Nascar situations. The legue would crucify the Browns and Pettine if we did something stupid with Bosa.
That attitude though worries me, maybe he is a dipshit afterall.
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Dont question that at all.....the better players are picked first....and they are the most likely to go to the HOF.....
I just said I dont "see an obvious HOFer" in this draft".....pretty simple.....and I dont see a slam dunk #1....
Do you?....if so, who?
Bosa seems to be the consensus best player per the reports I read....but slam dunk? Probably not. A team desperate for a QB could overide that choice.
Bosa seems to be the consensus best player per the reports I read....but slam dunk? Probably not. A team desperate for a QB could overide that choice.
How desperate you have to be to take a quarterback at number one that probably shouldn't go until the second round?
When you can have the best defensive player in the draft supposedly?
WSS
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Bosa seems to be the consensus best player per the reports I read....but slam dunk? Probably not. A team desperate for a QB could overide that choice.
How desperate you have to be to take a quarterback at number one that probably shouldn't go until the second round?
When you can have the best defensive player in the draft supposedly?
WSS
How desperate you have to be to take a quarterback at number one that probably shouldn't go until the second round?
When you can have the best defensive player in the draft supposedly?
WSS
They call that "Cleveland Desperate".
I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride -
yeah I don't see a 1st round overreach working out for us, especially when the defense needs basically tore up from the floor up.
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How desperate you have to be to take a quarterback at number one that probably shouldn't go until the second round?
When you can have the best defensive player in the draft supposedly?
WSS
They call that "Cleveland Desperate".
They call that "Cleveland Desperate".
I don't think we are desperate for a quarterback.
WSS
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