Jonathan Paul Manziel
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21-31, 270 yds, 1/1. More importantly, a Browns win. How many Browns fans thought this was possible from Johnny last year?
I realize he set some bridges on fire with his horrible first year, but he looks nothing like he did last year. He hasn't looked like that even from game 1, when he filled in for a concussed McC.
The only two games I've been able to watch were Tenn and Pitt. He played well in both games. You don't throw for 370 yards against the steelers if you have no NFL ability.
He makes some stupid mistakes. Yes, second year NFL qb's do that. He also has the ability to turn -10 yard sacks into 70-yard touchdowns. All you that say he's too small, did you watch the Pittsburgh game? He continually got hit and got back up to keep fighting.
I realize Johnny invites haters because of his actions, he's his own worst enemy that way. But those that have said Johnny lacks the necessary skills or measurements to play in the NFL have already been proven wrong. He is playing well, he's played well all season.
And he's only going to get better. I admit, his off-field stuff causes concerns, but on the field, he is a valid starting NFL qb. I type all of this while watching Matt Cassel look like dog shit. It's hard to play qb in the NFL. Johnny is 23 and playing well. Give him some more time and you might be pleasantly surprised.
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The next 3 weeks will give us a clearer picture of John. He looked OK today against a very bad team, but we'll see how he looks the next 3 weeks against real NFL teams........... If he does look good, then Walter and the rest of the John Fan Club Boyz will be free to start all the 'Johnny is Great' threads they want, and I might not even mind..........Time will tell
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when you want this team to win they lose, when you want them to lose to get a higher draft pick after a busted season, they win. Complete and utter faggots this team is composed of
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when you want this team to win they lose, when you want them to lose to get a higher draft pick after a busted season, they win. Complete and utter faggots this team is composed of
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when you want this team to win they lose, when you want them to lose to get a higher draft pick after a busted season, they win. Complete and utter faggots this team is composed of
when you want this team to win they lose, when you want them to lose to get a higher draft pick after a busted season, they win. Complete and utter faggots this team is composed of
Put your head in an oven, Sylvia. The team won. Enjoy the victory or bitch somewhere else.
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Put your head in an oven, Sylvia. The team won. Enjoy the victory or bitch somewhere else.
yea im so happy we dropped down to third in the draft next year from 1st for what amounts to a coke high 20 minutes of feeling swell after a win. you are a complete buffoon. Only idiots live for the moment while the smart ones always, ALWAYS plan for the future. Dumbfuk. You have pedophile lips btw, shave that crustache .
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Other teams will win. Relax.
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Manziel is playing great. But seriously. Where has this running game been? It's opening up the entire field and keeping our defense well rested.
Manziel is playing great. But seriously. Where has this running game been? It's opening up the entire field and keeping our defense well rested.
That running game is more effective when Johnny plays....Interesting, hunh? The Johnny haters won't like to hear this, but I don't think it's just coincidence. That kid MAKES things happen!
Mike
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Put your head in an oven, Sylvia. The team won. Enjoy the victory or bitch somewhere else.
yea im so happy we dropped down to third in the draft next year from 1st for what amounts to a coke high 20 minutes of feeling swell after a win. you are a complete buffoon. Only idiots live for the moment while the smart ones always, ALWAYS plan for the future. Dumbfuk. You have pedophile lips btw, shave that crustache .
yea im so happy we dropped down to third in the draft next year from 1st for what amounts to a coke high 20 minutes of feeling swell after a win. you are a complete buffoon. Only idiots live for the moment while the smart ones always, ALWAYS plan for the future. Dumbfuk. You have pedophile lips btw, shave that crustache .
We have Seattle, KC, and Pittsburgh to finish the season. If Johnny and the Browns can win those (highly unlikely), he deserves to be the starting QB next year in my opinion. If they lose, good chance they still have first pick of the draft. So just relax. These guys needed the win.
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And that's fine, jrb... I just saw a lot of sources of energy. I do have to say, however, that any JM energy was left on the field. He was deadly dull and subdued in his presser for a winning QB.
Totally agree on next week starting a real test.
Great, more "dad rhetoric" from TOUR.
That stadium was chanting his name, and it was on a different level and tone today. He's just getting better and better. Kid made some off field mistakes but the dawg pound was popping today.
But you, like misery, loves company.
Pettine, O''Neil, and everyone else did great too.
Great, more "dad rhetoric" from TOUR.
That stadium was chanting his name, and it was on a different level and tone today.
Thank you, Junior... glad you recognize a sober analysis given you are incapable of generating one.
It had to be the stadium chanting, since there were more empty seats than fans... probably also responsible for the tone... acoustics primarily.
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Manziel is playing great. But seriously. Where has this running game been? It's opening up the entire field and keeping our defense well rested.
That running game is more effective when Johnny plays....Interesting, hunh? The Johnny haters won't like to hear this, but I don't think it's just coincidence. That kid MAKES things happen!
Mike
That running game is more effective when Johnny plays....Interesting, hunh? The Johnny haters won't like to hear this, but I don't think it's just coincidence. That kid MAKES things happen!
So vs. Cinci and Pittsburgh he did not feel like Making our run game "happen"?
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top two, top five...I don't care, they pick in the top something.
But winning sets the stage for what's possible next season, with
some changes, including a few more players to make the difference.
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As much as I can't stand WW I have to agree the team played with more energy and focus than I've all year. Is it because of Johnny? Maybe. Maybe they had a good week of practice, maybe they thought a 4 win team was beatable and got pumped. Maybe the loss to Cinci was their rock bottom and they finally got fed up (Bryant's post game interview suggested that). JM is the QB for the next three games and if you are a Browns fan you should at least reserve judgement until the season is over.
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That running game is more effective when Johnny plays....Interesting, hunh? The Johnny haters won't like to hear this, but I don't think it's just coincidence. That kid MAKES things happen!
So vs. Cinci and Pittsburgh he did not feel like Making our run game "happen"?
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Johnny didn't make the run game happen.
The Browns receivers had a great matchup vs the niners.
I think the staff made some changes, and the Browns
had more confidence they could take the game.
They just didn't look that way last week.
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That running game is more effective when Johnny plays....Interesting, hunh? The Johnny haters won't like to hear this, but I don't think it's just coincidence. That kid MAKES things happen!
So vs. Cinci and Pittsburgh he did not feel like Making our run game "happen"?
So vs. Cinci and Pittsburgh he did not feel like Making our run game "happen"?
You mean when we gave Crow a whopping 16 carries combined?
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Updated NFL Draft order through 13 games (MNF/SNF won't change this):
1. #Titans
2. #Browns
3. #Chargers
4. #Ravens
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Johnny didn't make the run game happen.
The Browns receivers had a great matchup vs the niners.
I think the staff made some changes, and the Browns
had more confidence they could take the game.
They just didn't look that way last week.
More power running and traps between the tackles less stretch running playsJohnny didn't make the run game happen.
The Browns receivers had a great matchup vs the niners.
I think the staff made some changes, and the Browns
had more confidence they could take the game.
They just didn't look that way last week.
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You mean when we gave Crow a whopping 16 carries combined?
Compare ypc then. Same difference.
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The point is that the reason he has to extend the play is that he is incapable of going through progressions the way the play was designed.
Every time he runs around in the pocket, instead of saying "that's nifty" you should be asking "How many open Browns routes did he not recognize correctly, and why is he showing his back to his receivers"
Big Ben, Russell Wilson, Cam Newton, and Aaron Rogers are notorious for running outside of the pocket and finding receivers.
This is Johnnys like 6th career start? Give it a break
Big Ben, Russell Wilson, Cam Newton, and Aaron Rogers are notorious for running outside of the pocket and finding receivers.
And what percentage, exactly, ARE from outside of the pocket for those?
10%.
Scrambling cannot be the only useful part of a QB's game.
The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
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