Lets look at the D.....last year/this year
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I'm glad I can still come here and find intelligent analyses like this and not just "sky is falling" hysteria. Thanks Mud.
I'm glad I can still come here and find intelligent analyses like this and not just "sky is falling" hysteria. Thanks Mud.
and thank YOU for reading and giving this perspective a chance...
Hope Haslem is doing his research too.......
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so we need a new person picking the players
Bingo!
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That about wraps the D-side up...
Now about our run game?
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Meh i just dont like the philosophy of the coaching scheme i like a nice simple aggressive defense up front. And a power run play action offense. Power run to to be confused with zone run. You know when jt pushed left and austin pushed right and made a hole for crow and he got 20 then 55 on the other side with john and mitch. Like mud i agree the talent could be higher than it is but instead of just bitching about. Wahh lack of talent waahh...i put it on each coach to maximize the talent we do have. If they fail then we get coaches who can maximize talents and hide weakness. Its ALOT simplier than its being made out to be. Today we ran a simplified running scheme with alot of draws,traps and power rather than zone we also threw more the the perimeter where john could see amd have clear throwing lanes.Defensively we played more designed plays rather than react plays. We gained the step we lost today and it was evident on the field. I didn't really see anything I liked out of manziel unfortunately still in the camp to get a replacement early in the draft. Good gamr and good on the coaching for finally simplifying the scheme today. Look for more of the same for the next 3 weeks
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Nice.
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Only problem is, CDS, you need to make a case that the talent is there.
On which play did Joe go left, etc.?
Crow's first run was straight ahead, drive blocking by all with an inside zone look...
His subsequent TD was a classic X with Joe right and Paz left...
His 2nd long run was on a trap by Greco with Joe and Paz both collapsing SF's RDE inside.
Crow's 2nd TD was an aggressive, inside ZBS.
Check it out...
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Superb analysis Mud! Thank you. Hopefully Haslem is seeing it too. Our Draft was rated highly last year so I presume with another good Draft and hopefully some decent free agency signings that will see us more competitive. Replacing/covering Haden seems high on the wish list.
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I'm glad I can still come here and find intelligent analyses like this and not just "sky is falling" hysteria. Thanks Mud.
I'm glad I can still come here and find intelligent analyses like this and not just "sky is falling" hysteria. Thanks Mud.
For most of the people who visit this board, the sky fell 6 weeks ago or more. But I'd rather read true analysis like what was posted there then the "fire everyone" and "this team sucks" every single day.
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Great analysis, Mud. And your work in recent weeks to shut up the slogan rhetoric has been heroic.
It seems to me that you're arguing for some roster turnover.
Any ideas for bang-for-buck (not money-wise, but where the biggest improvements that could be made in the fewest moves) changes that you think would pay high dividends?
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Great analysis, Mud. And your work in recent weeks to shut up the slogan rhetoric has been heroic.
It seems to me that you're arguing for some roster turnover.
Any ideas for bang-for-buck (not money-wise, but where the biggest improvements that could be made in the fewest moves) changes that you think would pay high dividends?
Great analysis, Mud. And your work in recent weeks to shut up the slogan rhetoric has been heroic.
It seems to me that you're arguing for some roster turnover.
Any ideas for bang-for-buck (not money-wise, but where the biggest improvements that could be made in the fewest moves) changes that you think would pay high dividends?
Given Mud's 'fondness' for pointing out Kruger's failings, outside linebacker would probably be at the top of the list
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Great analysis, Mud. And your work in recent weeks to shut up the slogan rhetoric has been heroic.
It seems to me that you're arguing for some roster turnover.
Any ideas for bang-for-buck (not money-wise, but where the biggest improvements that could be made in the fewest moves) changes that you think would pay high dividends?
Given Mud's 'fondness' for pointing out Kruger's failings, outside linebacker would probably be at the top of the list
Given Mud's 'fondness' for pointing out Kruger's failings, outside linebacker would probably be at the top of the list
Yes....true.....I admit it....
The guy couldnt possibly be any more under my skin than he is......it's just that I expect the 2nd highest paid defensive player to make an occasional tackle or something....
And, when he points fingers and blames others for his shortcomings, then it really burns me up extra.....especially when other less experienced back-up players step into his spot and produce more than double his numbers....every game....
And, any player who makes $8 mil a year, shouldnt go 7 out of 13 games with a zero stat line......
he's the Dwayne Bowe of our defense, except he puts up Bowe like #'s while playing 30 snaps a game....
Thats just really hard to ignore when your d sucks.....
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I read where the defensive line coach of the Browns came up with
a great pass rush plan for the niner game.
and. that last game sure seems to have been less clusterfook on
miscommunication, maybe even almost? none.
I know they aren't running on first down all the time anymore - maybe the
defense staff realized they had to quit being so micromanaging.
Something was really different about the way the players were playing, and it was great.
Sure seems like the coaches tried to fix what THEY were doing wrong.
Joe Haden could take on any wr in the NFL. Not so with the rest of the secondary. You can bet
A.J. Green and Antonio Brown did a happy dance when they realized that Haden was out. He
was the only guy they had who could play on an island with the best.
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I'm not saying you're wrong buddy.
Ha....I get it.....and you're right....I would draft OLB early for sure.....and sign a couple too....
It's looking like Von Miller is gonna be UFA....so, if were are gonna have one of the highest paid in the league,,,,,.he would be a much better look than Kruger.....especially at that price........
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I'm not saying you're wrong buddy.
Ha....I get it.....and you're right....I would draft OLB early for sure.....and sign a couple too....
It's looking like Von Miller is gonna be UFA....so, if were are gonna have one of the highest paid in the league,,,,,.he would be a much better look than Kruger.....especially at that price........
Ha....I get it.....and you're right....I would draft OLB early for sure.....and sign a couple too....
It's looking like Von Miller is gonna be UFA....so, if were are gonna have one of the highest paid in the league,,,,,.he would be a much better look than Kruger.....especially at that price........
He may have improved a little, but is he not one of the most one dimensional OLBs around? I know when we drafted mingo the 'hope' was that he'd be a von miller style pass rush specialist.
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Great analysis, Mud. And your work in recent weeks to shut up the slogan rhetoric has been heroic.
It seems to me that you're arguing for some roster turnover.
Any ideas for bang-for-buck (not money-wise, but where the biggest improvements that could be made in the fewest moves) changes that you think would pay high dividends?
Great analysis, Mud. And your work in recent weeks to shut up the slogan rhetoric has been heroic.
It seems to me that you're arguing for some roster turnover.
Any ideas for bang-for-buck (not money-wise, but where the biggest improvements that could be made in the fewest moves) changes that you think would pay high dividends?
Yeah...I think talent trumps all....so, as usual, a few should go and we need some play makers.....
If it was me, I add OLB's and CB's....cause, in addition to the terrible play at OLB, I think Haden and Traymon will be needing more help.....Traymon will be another year older and was supposed to be the bridge to Gilbert....but we have to assume Gilbert isnt the guy....and Haden?....who knows if he'll be back or how good he will be?....
I think Mingo and Kruger are overpaid dead weight and would be my first choices on D to go.....
Next year, Id also start playing Campbell more, because he has a nose for the ball and I think he'll end up being an excellent safety.....and one that can stuff the run!
He may have improved a little, but is he not one of the most one dimensional OLBs around? I know when we drafted mingo the 'hope' was that he'd be a von miller style pass rush specialist.
Von is light years better than anybody we have....monster pass rusher AND run stopper....very very solid.....
Mingo...as much as I hoped he would figure it out, just doesnt seem to have it....he's great in pursuit, but never seals the deal by making the tackle....
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If we want OLB who can run and tackle, we should draft... OLB's who have demonstrated they can run and tackle.
A Bryant is a DE who can kinda run. Mingo is a guy with no position [not fast enough for safety, not big enough for LB] who makes up for it by barely being able to tackle.
It's like the coaches want to run the high school 5-2 and then wonder why people are open.
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Whatever analysis of this defense you may want to elicit......just let it be known:
Yesterday the Browns halted their NFL record of consecutive games giving up 24 or more points a game.
So...unless they play like that a couple of other times this year, I am not sold on how good they may be.
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Whatever analysis of this defense you may want to elicit......just let it be known:
Yesterday the Browns halted their NFL record of consecutive games giving up 24 or more points a game.
So...unless they play like that a couple of other times this year, I am not sold on how good they may be.
I am not sold on how good they may be.
Is anybody sold on this defense?......dont think so.....
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