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  • OldBrownsFan OldBrownsFanO
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    OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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    The democrat party bosses chose Hillary Clinton and have done everything to ensure she will win the democratic nomination (such as limiting the amount of debates). The democrat primaries are a farce with Clinton's biggest competition a socialist who had zero chance of any beating her. This has not been a primary process on the democrat side but a coronation.

    For all the problems of the GOP having about 18 candidates starting in the republican primaries at least the GOP has been able to prevent the party bosses of picking the candidate. Sure they have tried and gone down like a lead balloon with establishment favorite Jeb Bush.

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      W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by Westside Steve
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      Oh well, just saying who I'd vote for ahead of the others. I really like John Kasich but don't suppose he's going to be around long. I like Mike Huckabee but he decided he had to go the Pat Robertson route

      Can't get very excited for Jeb Bush or Marco Rubio. I think Ben Carson is a decent man but just seems lost out there.

      Not a fan of Ted Cruz Rand Paul Rick Santorum or Lindsey Graham in descending order.

      Still I vote for any of them, including Trump, over Hillary.

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        bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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        The DNC chair woman used to run a Hillary super PAC right? Sanders is foolish for not bringing more attention to how the DNC rigged the process for Hillary.

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          Oh well, just saying who I'd vote for ahead of the others. I really like John Kasich but don't suppose he's going to be around long. I like Mike Huckabee but he decided he had to go the Pat Robertson route

          Can't get very excited for Jeb Bush or Marco Rubio. I think Ben Carson is a decent man but just seems lost out there.

          Not a fan of Ted Cruz Rand Paul Rick Santorum or Lindsey Graham in descending order.

          Still I vote for any of them, including Trump, over Hillary.

          WSS

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          bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by bbedward
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          @westside-steve said:

          Oh well, just saying who I'd vote for ahead of the others. I really like John Kasich but don't suppose he's going to be around long. I like Mike Huckabee but he decided he had to go the Pat Robertson route

          Can't get very excited for Jeb Bush or Marco Rubio. I think Ben Carson is a decent man but just seems lost out there.

          Not a fan of Ted Cruz Rand Paul Rick Santorum or Lindsey Graham in descending order.

          Still I vote for any of them, including Trump, over Hillary.

          WSS

          I think Rubio/Bush/Clinton are all pretty much in the same circlejerk. They'd all deny it vehemently, but I don't see much difference between them outside of social issues.

          I'd like to see a Sanders/Paul election. Though neither one seems likely. I'd like to see Paul be SCOTUS or something though at least. Would make me feel a lot better about a Trump administration if Paul got a say in foreign policy

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            The DNC chair woman used to run a Hillary super PAC right? Sanders is foolish for not bringing more attention to how the DNC rigged the process for Hillary.

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            OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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            @bbedward said:

            The DNC chair woman used to run a Hillary super PAC right? Sanders is foolish for not bringing more attention to how the DNC rigged the process for Hillary.

            Sanders also gave Clinton a huge gift by saying in one of the debates he had heard enough about her emails. He acted like those emails were not important when in fact her negligence and incompetence has hurt our national security. I think it is pretty much common knowledge her private email account was hacked into by China and other countries not friendly to us and top secret information compromised.

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              @bbedward said:

              The DNC chair woman used to run a Hillary super PAC right? Sanders is foolish for not bringing more attention to how the DNC rigged the process for Hillary.

              Sanders also gave Clinton a huge gift by saying in one of the debates he had heard enough about her emails. He acted like those emails were not important when in fact her negligence and incompetence has hurt our national security. I think it is pretty much common knowledge her private email account was hacked into by China and other countries not friendly to us and top secret information compromised.

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              bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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              @oldbrownsfan said:

              Sanders also gave Clinton a huge gift by saying in one of the debates he had heard enough about her emails. He acted like those emails were not important when in fact her negligence and incompetence has hurt our national security. I think it is pretty much common knowledge her private email account was hacked into by China and other countries not friendly to us and top secret information compromised.

              He could have just said something like "It's under FBI investigation and it's up to them to determine if a crime was committed" or something. Then he wouldn't have sounded like a pussy and wouldn't have had confrontation.

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                C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                all those people that booed Rand are what's wrong with this country. If we're gonna last deep into the 21st or even 22nd century, those people need to die off and not be replaced.

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                  all those people that booed Rand are what's wrong with this country. If we're gonna last deep into the 21st or even 22nd century, those people need to die off and not be replaced.

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                  OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                  @clevfan4life said:

                  all those people that booed Rand are what's wrong with this country. If we're gonna last deep into the 21st or even 22nd century, those people need to die off and not be replaced.

                  I agree with Rand on that point. Toppling dictators has not helped anything but has made things more unstable and worse. I still believe Rand made a huge mistake in attacking Trump early on in the primaries and that has hurt Paul as much as anything. Trump has exposed a big rift in the base of the GOP who are sick of establishment republicans that don't deliver on promises when they go to Washington. The shame of this for Rand Paul is that he is not an establishment republican but by throwing his hat in the ring with establishment republicans like Jeb Bush he has suffered for it.

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                    Bob806B Bob806 wrote on last edited by
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                    I watched it. I'm not a fan of today's Rs at all, but I don't want Hillary.

                    To me, Rubio made the most sense (at least last night). Bush & Fiorina need to take a hike. Christie did fine, so did our Governor Kasich (despite my reservations with him).

                    There's no way the Rs are going to nominate Trump, but they'd be silly not to keep him around as some kind of economic adviser.

                    I don't know how the Rs are going to come together and figure this out, but they better do it real real soon. This infighting, or just a simple lack of a true front-runner isn't a good look. Right now, I doubt I vote D or R, it's a total mess.

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                      MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                      Trump seems like the guy that needs to be the team leader, or he's not on a team.

                      Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                        W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by Westside Steve
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                        Don't kid yourself if Trump keeps garnering Support while the rest of these guys flounder and we get a brokered convention in which he gets fucked out of the nomination he will be pissed off, and rightfully so.

                        Then you have to worry about a third party run or the idea that his supporters just stay home rather than vote for Jeb, the candidate that nobody cares about.

                        And Hillary rides her broomstick straight into the Oval Office.

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                        • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

                          Trump seems like the guy that needs to be the team leader, or he's not on a team.

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                          bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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                          @mld-woody said:

                          Trump seems like the guy that needs to be the team leader, or he's not on a team.

                          Yep.

                          I think he'll win the nomination anyway. At this point he's starting to hit 40% in the polls and Iowa is pretty close. Even if Cruz wins Iowa, looks like Trump will win the nomination.

                          If by some chance he doesn't win, he'll just continue yelling on twitter and probably get a new TV show or something.

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                          If the RNC does this "Brokered Convention" thing and steals the nomination away from whoever deserves it - then they will lose in 2016 (deservedly so) in a huge landslide. I doubt they do that though.

                          If Trump wins, some of the right wingers say "Trump/Cruz 2016!!!!" I think he'd be better off picking somebody who's more moderate to try and win over a bigger voting block. A swing state guy like Kasich would be good, but I sort of expect somebody who isn't in the race currently.

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                            Carson I almost feel sorry for. He is way out of his league when discussing anything political. Trump was perfect for the first hour and weakened in the second hour. Rubio I thought was the best debator. Cruz came across as to antagonistic with the moderators. I thought Christie sounded good with his answers. He is a Governor and a former federal prosecutor after all. Kasich frankly I'm surprised he is doing so poorly.

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                            tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                            @diehardbrownsfan said:

                            Kasich frankly I'm surprised he is doing so poorly.

                            Really?

                            I got to watch some of it myself. Out of that lot, I don't mind Paul, myself.

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                              bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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                              Kasich just had this weird penguin flipper thing going on yesterday.

                              He was trying to lay down some sick beats or something.

                              Kasich is basically the same as old fogies like Bush when you get down to it, he's just better at not sounding like an idiot in public.

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                                Kasich just had this weird penguin flipper thing going on yesterday.

                                He was trying to lay down some sick beats or something.

                                Kasich is basically the same as old fogies like Bush when you get down to it, he's just better at not sounding like an idiot in public.

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                                tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                                @bbedward said:

                                Kasich just had this weird penguin flipper thing going on yesterday.

                                He was trying to lay down some sick beats or something.

                                Kasich is basically the same as old fogies like Bush when you get down to it, he's just better at not sounding like an idiot in public.

                                Meaning he doesn't have that Texas swag, but the shit he says is equally as stupid.

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                                  Legacy FanL Legacy Fan wrote on last edited by
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                                  "Rand Paul please.

                                  Thanks."

                                  Sure, luck means a lot in football. Not having a good quarterback is bad luck. -Don Shula
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                                    C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by calfoxwc
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                                    The only reps I want to vote for, are Cruz and Carson.

                                    A Cruz/Carson ticket.

                                    Or maybe Cruz/Fiorina.

                                    Sometimes, it seems that a lot of democrats are registered as reps, and that's how

                                    Trump is doing so well...

                                    they want him because higgardly could look nearly like a human being

                                    debating him. His BS vs her sombeech stupidass lies and videotape of emails...

                                    I think Cruz wins, because when the others drop out... those votes will go to Cruz.

                                    Trump has his shallow one liners base, and it's stable, but won't grow dramatically.

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                                      The only reps I want to vote for, are Cruz and Carson.

                                      A Cruz/Carson ticket.

                                      Or maybe Cruz/Fiorina.

                                      Sometimes, it seems that a lot of democrats are registered as reps, and that's how

                                      Trump is doing so well...

                                      they want him because higgardly could look nearly like a human being

                                      debating him. His BS vs her sombeech stupidass lies and videotape of emails...

                                      I think Cruz wins, because when the others drop out... those votes will go to Cruz.

                                      Trump has his shallow one liners base, and it's stable, but won't grow dramatically.

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                                      LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                                      @calfoxwc said:

                                      The only reps I want to vote for, are Cruz and Carson.

                                      A Cruz/Carson ticket.

                                      Or maybe Cruz/Fiorina.

                                      Sometimes, it seems that a lot of democrats are registered as reps, and that's how

                                      Trump is doing so well...

                                      they want him because higgardly could look nearly like a human being

                                      debating him. His BS vs her sombeech stupidass lies and videotape of emails...

                                      I think Cruz wins, because when the others drop out... those votes will go to Cruz.

                                      Trump has his shallow one liners base, and it's stable, but won't grow dramatically.

                                      Every time there is a terror attack, Trump will gain more steam. Not with substance at all but he will resonate with people who are scared shitless.

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                                        The only reps I want to vote for, are Cruz and Carson.

                                        A Cruz/Carson ticket.

                                        Or maybe Cruz/Fiorina.

                                        Sometimes, it seems that a lot of democrats are registered as reps, and that's how

                                        Trump is doing so well...

                                        they want him because higgardly could look nearly like a human being

                                        debating him. His BS vs her sombeech stupidass lies and videotape of emails...

                                        I think Cruz wins, because when the others drop out... those votes will go to Cruz.

                                        Trump has his shallow one liners base, and it's stable, but won't grow dramatically.

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                                        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                        @calfoxwc said:

                                        The only reps I want to vote for, are Cruz and Carson.

                                        A Cruz/Carson ticket.

                                        Or maybe Cruz/Fiorina.

                                        Sometimes, it seems that a lot of democrats are registered as reps, and that's how

                                        Trump is doing so well...

                                        they want him because higgardly could look nearly like a human being

                                        debating him. His BS vs her sombeech stupidass lies and videotape of emails...

                                        I think Cruz wins, because when the others drop out... those votes will go to Cruz.

                                        Trump has his shallow one liners base, and it's stable, but won't grow dramatically.

                                        Wait wait wait

                                        Even when it comes to a Republican candidate you don't like getting support among conservatives.... you still blame liberals?

                                        Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                          bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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                                          The polls now are pretty much exclusively registered republican likely primary voters, which mostly consists of people who have voted in Republican primaries before.

                                          And Trump is winning in all of them.

                                          Trump is not a Democrat conspiracy, people actually like him in conservative circles including the Rush Limbaugh hard right winger group. Blaze and breitbart readers are pretty big fans as well.

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