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  • C Clevfan4life

    all those people that booed Rand are what's wrong with this country. If we're gonna last deep into the 21st or even 22nd century, those people need to die off and not be replaced.

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    OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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    @clevfan4life said:

    all those people that booed Rand are what's wrong with this country. If we're gonna last deep into the 21st or even 22nd century, those people need to die off and not be replaced.

    I agree with Rand on that point. Toppling dictators has not helped anything but has made things more unstable and worse. I still believe Rand made a huge mistake in attacking Trump early on in the primaries and that has hurt Paul as much as anything. Trump has exposed a big rift in the base of the GOP who are sick of establishment republicans that don't deliver on promises when they go to Washington. The shame of this for Rand Paul is that he is not an establishment republican but by throwing his hat in the ring with establishment republicans like Jeb Bush he has suffered for it.

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      Bob806B Bob806 wrote on last edited by
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      I watched it. I'm not a fan of today's Rs at all, but I don't want Hillary.

      To me, Rubio made the most sense (at least last night). Bush & Fiorina need to take a hike. Christie did fine, so did our Governor Kasich (despite my reservations with him).

      There's no way the Rs are going to nominate Trump, but they'd be silly not to keep him around as some kind of economic adviser.

      I don't know how the Rs are going to come together and figure this out, but they better do it real real soon. This infighting, or just a simple lack of a true front-runner isn't a good look. Right now, I doubt I vote D or R, it's a total mess.

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        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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        Trump seems like the guy that needs to be the team leader, or he's not on a team.

        Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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          W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by Westside Steve
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          Don't kid yourself if Trump keeps garnering Support while the rest of these guys flounder and we get a brokered convention in which he gets fucked out of the nomination he will be pissed off, and rightfully so.

          Then you have to worry about a third party run or the idea that his supporters just stay home rather than vote for Jeb, the candidate that nobody cares about.

          And Hillary rides her broomstick straight into the Oval Office.

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          • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

            Trump seems like the guy that needs to be the team leader, or he's not on a team.

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            bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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            @mld-woody said:

            Trump seems like the guy that needs to be the team leader, or he's not on a team.

            Yep.

            I think he'll win the nomination anyway. At this point he's starting to hit 40% in the polls and Iowa is pretty close. Even if Cruz wins Iowa, looks like Trump will win the nomination.

            If by some chance he doesn't win, he'll just continue yelling on twitter and probably get a new TV show or something.

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            If the RNC does this "Brokered Convention" thing and steals the nomination away from whoever deserves it - then they will lose in 2016 (deservedly so) in a huge landslide. I doubt they do that though.

            If Trump wins, some of the right wingers say "Trump/Cruz 2016!!!!" I think he'd be better off picking somebody who's more moderate to try and win over a bigger voting block. A swing state guy like Kasich would be good, but I sort of expect somebody who isn't in the race currently.

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            • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

              Carson I almost feel sorry for. He is way out of his league when discussing anything political. Trump was perfect for the first hour and weakened in the second hour. Rubio I thought was the best debator. Cruz came across as to antagonistic with the moderators. I thought Christie sounded good with his answers. He is a Governor and a former federal prosecutor after all. Kasich frankly I'm surprised he is doing so poorly.

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              tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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              @diehardbrownsfan said:

              Kasich frankly I'm surprised he is doing so poorly.

              Really?

              I got to watch some of it myself. Out of that lot, I don't mind Paul, myself.

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                bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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                Kasich just had this weird penguin flipper thing going on yesterday.

                He was trying to lay down some sick beats or something.

                Kasich is basically the same as old fogies like Bush when you get down to it, he's just better at not sounding like an idiot in public.

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                • bbedwardB bbedward

                  Kasich just had this weird penguin flipper thing going on yesterday.

                  He was trying to lay down some sick beats or something.

                  Kasich is basically the same as old fogies like Bush when you get down to it, he's just better at not sounding like an idiot in public.

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                  tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                  @bbedward said:

                  Kasich just had this weird penguin flipper thing going on yesterday.

                  He was trying to lay down some sick beats or something.

                  Kasich is basically the same as old fogies like Bush when you get down to it, he's just better at not sounding like an idiot in public.

                  Meaning he doesn't have that Texas swag, but the shit he says is equally as stupid.

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                    Legacy FanL Legacy Fan wrote on last edited by
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                    "Rand Paul please.

                    Thanks."

                    Sure, luck means a lot in football. Not having a good quarterback is bad luck. -Don Shula
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                      C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by calfoxwc
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                      The only reps I want to vote for, are Cruz and Carson.

                      A Cruz/Carson ticket.

                      Or maybe Cruz/Fiorina.

                      Sometimes, it seems that a lot of democrats are registered as reps, and that's how

                      Trump is doing so well...

                      they want him because higgardly could look nearly like a human being

                      debating him. His BS vs her sombeech stupidass lies and videotape of emails...

                      I think Cruz wins, because when the others drop out... those votes will go to Cruz.

                      Trump has his shallow one liners base, and it's stable, but won't grow dramatically.

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                      • C calfoxwc

                        The only reps I want to vote for, are Cruz and Carson.

                        A Cruz/Carson ticket.

                        Or maybe Cruz/Fiorina.

                        Sometimes, it seems that a lot of democrats are registered as reps, and that's how

                        Trump is doing so well...

                        they want him because higgardly could look nearly like a human being

                        debating him. His BS vs her sombeech stupidass lies and videotape of emails...

                        I think Cruz wins, because when the others drop out... those votes will go to Cruz.

                        Trump has his shallow one liners base, and it's stable, but won't grow dramatically.

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                        LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                        @calfoxwc said:

                        The only reps I want to vote for, are Cruz and Carson.

                        A Cruz/Carson ticket.

                        Or maybe Cruz/Fiorina.

                        Sometimes, it seems that a lot of democrats are registered as reps, and that's how

                        Trump is doing so well...

                        they want him because higgardly could look nearly like a human being

                        debating him. His BS vs her sombeech stupidass lies and videotape of emails...

                        I think Cruz wins, because when the others drop out... those votes will go to Cruz.

                        Trump has his shallow one liners base, and it's stable, but won't grow dramatically.

                        Every time there is a terror attack, Trump will gain more steam. Not with substance at all but he will resonate with people who are scared shitless.

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                        • C calfoxwc

                          The only reps I want to vote for, are Cruz and Carson.

                          A Cruz/Carson ticket.

                          Or maybe Cruz/Fiorina.

                          Sometimes, it seems that a lot of democrats are registered as reps, and that's how

                          Trump is doing so well...

                          they want him because higgardly could look nearly like a human being

                          debating him. His BS vs her sombeech stupidass lies and videotape of emails...

                          I think Cruz wins, because when the others drop out... those votes will go to Cruz.

                          Trump has his shallow one liners base, and it's stable, but won't grow dramatically.

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                          MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                          @calfoxwc said:

                          The only reps I want to vote for, are Cruz and Carson.

                          A Cruz/Carson ticket.

                          Or maybe Cruz/Fiorina.

                          Sometimes, it seems that a lot of democrats are registered as reps, and that's how

                          Trump is doing so well...

                          they want him because higgardly could look nearly like a human being

                          debating him. His BS vs her sombeech stupidass lies and videotape of emails...

                          I think Cruz wins, because when the others drop out... those votes will go to Cruz.

                          Trump has his shallow one liners base, and it's stable, but won't grow dramatically.

                          Wait wait wait

                          Even when it comes to a Republican candidate you don't like getting support among conservatives.... you still blame liberals?

                          Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                            bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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                            The polls now are pretty much exclusively registered republican likely primary voters, which mostly consists of people who have voted in Republican primaries before.

                            And Trump is winning in all of them.

                            Trump is not a Democrat conspiracy, people actually like him in conservative circles including the Rush Limbaugh hard right winger group. Blaze and breitbart readers are pretty big fans as well.

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                              OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                              Sessions: Omnibus Explains Why ‘Voters Are In Open Rebellion’

                              * also explains why Trump is doing so much better than expected.

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                                MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                only watched about 2 minutes...

                                ... but now it is Obama's fault Trump is popular with Republican voters?

                                Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

                                  only watched about 2 minutes...

                                  ... but now it is Obama's fault Trump is popular with Republican voters?

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                                  OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by OldBrownsFan
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                                  @mld-woody said:

                                  only watched about 2 minutes...

                                  ... but now it is Obama's fault Trump is popular with Republican voters?

                                  No. Trump has appeal to voters because we are electing politicians who are at times voting for legislation which is not in the best interest of the American people. That is what the video is speaking about.

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                                    gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                                    Wait, it was on CNN? I thought the GOP was going to pull out of all of that?

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                                    • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

                                      only watched about 2 minutes...

                                      ... but now it is Obama's fault Trump is popular with Republican voters?

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                                      C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                                      @mld-woody said:

                                      only watched about 2 minutes...

                                      ... but now it is Obama's fault Trump is popular with Republican voters?

                                      It's some kind of carpet ride isn't it?

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                                        @mld-woody said:

                                        only watched about 2 minutes...

                                        ... but now it is Obama's fault Trump is popular with Republican voters?

                                        It's some kind of carpet ride isn't it?

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                                        OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by OldBrownsFan
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                                        @clevfan4life said:

                                        It's some kind of carpet ride isn't it?

                                        You just aren't getting it. This omnibus monster bill signed on to by republicans is why the base of the republican party has been looking to outsiders like Trump and Carson (although Carson has faded recently). These republicans idea of compromising with democrats is to get whatever they can to benefit big business and the chamber of commerce and throw to the wayside everything else such as immigration, Obamacare or defunding planned parenthood and sanctuary cities among other things. Even on giving in on immigration these republicans are helping the chamber of commerce who like all the cheap labor they can get and give some of their profits back to GOP politicians who make sure they get favored treatment. So what we have are republican politicians who say they are against Obamacare and will have 40 "show" votes that mean nothing even though they are in position to do something meaningful as they control the purse strings. These republicans were elected to stop some of the Obama agenda but time after time they show they are primarily focused on the interests of big business but they will give cheap talk to republican voters about defunding PP or illegal immigration and then do nothing. I vote republican but I consider them to be the party that is the lesser of 2 evils and not that I think so highly of them.

                                        Sessions is not the best public speaker but listen to the substance of what he is saying. He is blasting his own party, the hypocrisy of what is going on and the betrayal of these republicans to the people who voted them into office.

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