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Pope Francis Issues Decree That Jews Should Not Be Told About Salvation In Jesus Christ

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  • bbedwardB bbedward

    "Today, Pope Francis announced that soul-saving knowledge of Jesus Christ should be withheld from anyone who is Jewish, and that they should not be converted. "

    This is dumb and misleading and people have no reading comprehension apparently.

    He said Jews can reach salvation without accepting Jesus Christ as their savior, and Catholics shouldn't actively try to convert Jews

    Doesn't mean they can't be converted or shouldn't get knowledge on Jesus Christ. It basically means even if people don't believe the same shit you do you don't need to shove it down their throats because they can still reach salvation regardless.

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    OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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    Living in the end times

    @bbedward said:

    "Today, Pope Francis announced that soul-saving knowledge of Jesus Christ should be withheld from anyone who is Jewish, and that they should not be converted. "

    This is dumb and misleading and people have no reading comprehension apparently.

    He said Jews can reach salvation without accepting Jesus Christ as their savior, and Catholics shouldn't actively try to convert Jews

    Doesn't mean they can't be converted or shouldn't get knowledge on Jesus Christ. It basically means even if people don't believe the same shit you do you don't need to shove it down their throats because they can still reach salvation regardless.

    You are making my point...HE SAID (the pope)...what he said (even the pope) means nothing compared to what Jesus says in His word. He says that Jews can be saved apart from Him.. Jesus says differently. I'm believing what Jesus says

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      P Pumpkin Eater wrote on last edited by
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      Yeah this pope is an asshole.

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        bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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        I'm just pointing out that the article in OP is Retarded.

        Christians think only Christians can be saved. The pope said everybody can reach salvation.

        So even a Jew who doesn't accept Jesus as his savior, but dedicated his life to contribute to humanitarian missions and feeds the poor and lives a great selfless life can't go to heaven because he's Jewish? Seems pretty harsh to me to say that he needs to go to hell because he doesn't believe Jesus was the savior

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          MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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          Oh how precious

          Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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            I'm just pointing out that the article in OP is Retarded.

            Christians think only Christians can be saved. The pope said everybody can reach salvation.

            So even a Jew who doesn't accept Jesus as his savior, but dedicated his life to contribute to humanitarian missions and feeds the poor and lives a great selfless life can't go to heaven because he's Jewish? Seems pretty harsh to me to say that he needs to go to hell because he doesn't believe Jesus was the savior

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            OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by OldBrownsFan
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            @bbedward said:

            I'm just pointing out that the article in OP is Retard.

            Christians think only Christians can be saved. The pope said everybody can reach salvation.

            So even a Jew who doesn't accept Jesus as his savior, but dedicated his life to contribute to humanitarian missions and feeds the poor and lives a great selfless life can't go to heaven because he's Jewish? Seems pretty harsh to me to say that he needs to go to hell because he doesn't believe Jesus was the savior

            I heard a Messianic Jewish believer say in a sermon with tears in his eyes he would never see his parents again (who had died) because they refused Jesus as the Messiah. It is harsh but you cannot make up a different gospel that you like better. The bible is clear we are not saved by works. I am not knocking good works, the more the better but just don't count on that to save you. We are saved by faith. I fellowship with Jewish believers and I can tell you they want no part of this false teaching that because they are Jewish they don't need Jesus. The bible is so crystal clear that both Jew and Gentile are lost and need a Savior and there is only one Savior for all.

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              MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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              And to think this was the norm not too long ago

              Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                I don't think anyone is going to hell just because they are of a different religious background.

                "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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                  C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                  and I believe that nobody gets into heaven via works.

                  Nobody is perfect enough to be that perfect.

                  Therefore, it isn't by works, it's by understanding

                  that Jesus died on the Cross..

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                    W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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                    I'd be more surprised if a significant number of Jews cared about the Pope's idea of the afterlife anyway.

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                      I'd be more surprised if a significant number of Jews cared about the Pope's idea of the afterlife anyway.

                      WSS

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                      LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                      @westside-steve said:

                      I'd be more surprised if a significant number of Jews cared about the Pope's idea of the afterlife anyway.

                      WSS

                      Yeah to Jews, the Pope is just some random guy in a funny hat.

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                        C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                        I think a lot of Catholics feel the same way. This pope is a liberal wearing a funny hat.

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                          OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                          I don't want to be disrespectful but I cannot accept what the Pope is saying over clear teachings in the bible. I also don't accept what is happening in some protestant churches who ordain homosexual ministers or support abortion in direct opposition to scriptures.

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                            MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                            How do you know the scriptures are true?

                            Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                              How do you know the scriptures are true?

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                              LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                              @mld-woody said:

                              How do you know the scriptures are true?

                              Woody, why? haha

                              Did you think we were short on threads about religion that ends with circular logic and no one changing their opinion?

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                                C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                                So the pope says let's not be obnoxious cunts and throw jesus at everybody..........and he's an asshole for that..got it.

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                                  C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by calfoxwc
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                                  How do you know the scriptures are true? woodpecker

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                                  eh.... because you believe they are not, and you are always wrong

                                  and antagonistic, therefore they are true.

                                  simple.

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                                    So the pope says let's not be obnoxious cunts and throw jesus at everybody..........and he's an asshole for that..got it.

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                                    bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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                                    @clevfan4life said:

                                    So the pope says let's not be obnoxious cunts and throw jesus at everybody..........and he's an asshole for that..got it.

                                    And he says Jews can still go to heaven.

                                    What a jackass

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                                      So the pope says let's not be obnoxious cunts and throw jesus at everybody..........and he's an asshole for that..got it.

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                                      @clevfan4life said:

                                      So the pope says let's not be obnoxious cunts and throw jesus at everybody..........and he's an asshole for that..got it.

                                      I think the ass hole is the guy that gets pissed off and shitty when somebody else is trying to do something he believes will save your soul or give you a way to receive the gift of eternal life. You know, you.

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                                        @clevfan4life said:

                                        So the pope says let's not be obnoxious cunts and throw jesus at everybody..........and he's an asshole for that..got it.

                                        And he says Jews can still go to heaven.

                                        What a jackass

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                                        OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                        @bbedward said:

                                        And he says Jews can still go to heaven.

                                        What a jackass

                                        Then said JESUS again unto them, I go my way, and ye shall seek me, and shall die in YOUR SINS: whither I go, ye cannot come. Then said the JEWS, Will he kill himself? because he saith, Whither I go, ye cannot come. And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world. I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in YOUR SINS: for IF YE BELIEVE NOT that I am he, ye shall die in YOUR SINS. (John 8:21-24)

                                        *In this passage Jesus was talking with the religious Jewish people of his day, and he told them that if they did not believe in him, then they would die in their sins. That statement by Jesus is still in effect today, and it has not changed one bit.

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                                          DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                          That was then, this is now. You can hardly hold people accountable for something they don't believe in and send them to hell. A just god would not do that, would they?

                                          "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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