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5 star recruit and #1 overall RB for 2016 commits to Ohio State

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  • The Cysko KidT The Cysko Kid wrote on
    #61

    Again you refuse to acknowledge what "commitment" is why your guy doesn't have it and why I'm currently questioning his ethic.

    This shit ain't nothing to me, man.
  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on
    #62

    Lol. Sure thing. If you had any idea what you were talking about you'd think differently. He left OSU so attack his character. What a fan base

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
  • The Cysko KidT The Cysko Kid wrote on
    #63

    I think he has shitty character because he's breaking his commitment. It has nothing to do with whether he's going to michigan or whether he's leaving ohio state. I expect if you think it's not a concern you are the sort of person to whom commitments mean nothing. I don't really care about him at all to be honest. Before this thread came about I'd never even heard of him because I don't give a shit about high school level football. Also he's a running back, the most dime a dozen position in all of football. But the fact remains: he committed to a team when he saw them winning but as soon as the outlook didn't look as rosy any more he broke that commitment. That's weak character no matter how you try to spin it.

    This shit ain't nothing to me, man.
  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on
    #64

    And again, you don't follow recruit. You don't understand the system. You don't understand why this is common. You don't understand that football programs and coaches break their "commitments" as well.

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
    The GipperT 1 Reply
  • The Cysko KidT The Cysko Kid wrote on
    #65

    It doesn't matter who does it. It's bad character all the way around. Guys fuck their buddies' girlfriends all the time. Doesn't make it good character.

    This shit ain't nothing to me, man.
  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on
    #66

    Alright. Whatever you say. I'm done with this back and forth.

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
  • The Cysko KidT The Cysko Kid wrote on
    #67

    Right. Good. Because it's difficult to defend I understand. Again. I don't care. I hope he works out for michigan.

    This shit ain't nothing to me, man.
  • W wargograw wrote on
    #68

    So if a guy flips to OSU (which they probably have examples of in this very class, or will, but I don't know for sure), does he have bad character too?

    The Cysko KidT 1 Reply
  • The Cysko KidT The Cysko Kid wrote on
    #69

    Yeah. Here's s novel idea. If you dont know where you're going to play...don't commit.

    This shit ain't nothing to me, man.
  • The Cysko KidT The Cysko Kid

    Yeah. Here's s novel idea. If you dont know where you're going to play...don't commit.

    gftChrisG gftChris wrote on
    #70

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    Yeah. Here's s novel idea. If you dont know where you're going to play...don't commit.

    Pretty much...

    If you commit, you're "committed" not just "at the moment I feel like playing at...Ohio State!"

    The GipperT 1 Reply
  • The Cysko KidT The Cysko Kid

    I wouldn't trust that friendship very much. After all, it's not just me that sees that he's a flip flopper.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #71

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    I wouldn't trust that friendship very much. After all, it's not just me that sees that he's a flip flopper.

    Are you talking about the recruit.....or Harbaugh?

    MLD WoodyM 1 Reply
  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

    And again, you don't follow recruit. You don't understand the system. You don't understand why this is common. You don't understand that football programs and coaches break their "commitments" as well.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #72

    @mld-woody said:

    And again, you don't follow recruit. You don't understand the system. You don't understand why this is common. You don't understand that football programs and coaches break their "commitments" as well.

    I suspect he understands the system as well as you do....which means: very little.

    MLD WoodyM 1 Reply
  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    I wouldn't trust that friendship very much. After all, it's not just me that sees that he's a flip flopper.

    Are you talking about the recruit.....or Harbaugh?

    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on
    #73

    @the-gipper said:

    Are you talking about the recruit.....or Harbaugh?

    Please explain to me when Harbaugh flip flopped?

    Was it when he was at UF, got a headache and left (after creating a team of criminals and having his Jesus scapegoat leave), saying i was for health reasons and to spend time with his family, only to jump to OSU at the first opportunity?

    You may not like Harbaugh. You may want to insult Michigan as much as possible. But there is absolutely no way you could call Harbaugh a flip flopper without calling Meyer something worse...

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
    The GipperT 1 Reply
  • gftChrisG gftChris

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    Yeah. Here's s novel idea. If you dont know where you're going to play...don't commit.

    Pretty much...

    If you commit, you're "committed" not just "at the moment I feel like playing at...Ohio State!"

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #74

    @gftchris said:

    Pretty much...

    If you commit, you're "committed" not just "at the moment I feel like playing at...Ohio State!"

    It has happened both ways. Other Big Ten schools have given Urban Meyer shit because some of their recruits have decommitted and gone to Ohio State. It happens all the time.....and is probably far worse in the SEC (where large brown paper bags full of currency are much more often involved.....remember, Cam Newton decommitted from I think like Mississippi because his dad wanted $200,000, and MSU couldn't give him that....but Auburn could.)

    MLD WoodyM 1 Reply
  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @mld-woody said:

    And again, you don't follow recruit. You don't understand the system. You don't understand why this is common. You don't understand that football programs and coaches break their "commitments" as well.

    I suspect he understands the system as well as you do....which means: very little.

    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on
    #75

    @the-gipper said:

    I suspect he understands the system as well as you do....which means: very little.

    You'd be wrong, but you're used to that.

    The recruiting system is stacked against high school recruits. Programs have no reason to be loyal to them (see mainly SEC, OSU RB coach, etc). Recruits can use commitments as their own weapon. Top recruits are usually better off no committing early at all though. Unless they want to enroll early.

    Recruits commit and decommit all of the time. All of this kids don't have character issues. As much as some on here clearly want to insult the guy that left OSU for Michigan, it just comes off as petty, childish and ignorant.

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
    The GipperT 1 Reply
  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @gftchris said:

    Pretty much...

    If you commit, you're "committed" not just "at the moment I feel like playing at...Ohio State!"

    It has happened both ways. Other Big Ten schools have given Urban Meyer shit because some of their recruits have decommitted and gone to Ohio State. It happens all the time.....and is probably far worse in the SEC (where large brown paper bags full of currency are much more often involved.....remember, Cam Newton decommitted from I think like Mississippi because his dad wanted $200,000, and MSU couldn't give him that....but Auburn could.)

    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on
    #76

    @the-gipper said:

    It has happened both ways. Other Big Ten schools have given Urban Meyer shit because some of their recruits have decommitted and gone to Ohio State. It happens all the time.....and is probably far worse in the SEC (where large brown paper bags full of currency are much more often involved.....remember, Cam Newton decommitted from I think like Mississippi because his dad wanted $200,000, and MSU couldn't give him that....but Auburn could.)

    Right. Things change over the course of a year. Coaches come an go. Players get hurt. Playing time disappears or becomes available. A top recruit can wait to commit (and Walker probably should have. In my first post in this thread, I said we'll need to wait and see because signing day is a long time away). Something changed on Walker's end and OSU wasn't the best choice for him anymore.

    A kid commits to Purdue because it is his best offer and he doesnt want to lose it. He then has a good Sr season, and OSU misses out on their top target. OSU then offers. Are you really going to attack his character for taking the OSU offer?

    Until they sign the LOI, nothing is set.

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
  • W wargograw

    So if a guy flips to OSU (which they probably have examples of in this very class, or will, but I don't know for sure), does he have bad character too?

    The Cysko KidT The Cysko Kid wrote on
    #77

    @wargograw said:

    So if a guy flips to OSU (which they probably have examples of in this very class, or will, but I don't know for sure), does he have bad character too?

    Of course. JT Barrett got drunk and drove and then tried to get out of it by saying he was the qb at ohio state. That's a bit of bad character. Adolphus Washington picked up hookers. That's a bit of bad character. Very few of these guys have actual good character. Very few. You guys want so desperately for me to say it has to do with him leaving ohio state when honestly I don't give a shit where he plays. It just rubs me the wrong way when anybody decommits.

    This shit ain't nothing to me, man.
    W 1 Reply
  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

    @the-gipper said:

    Are you talking about the recruit.....or Harbaugh?

    Please explain to me when Harbaugh flip flopped?

    Was it when he was at UF, got a headache and left (after creating a team of criminals and having his Jesus scapegoat leave), saying i was for health reasons and to spend time with his family, only to jump to OSU at the first opportunity?

    You may not like Harbaugh. You may want to insult Michigan as much as possible. But there is absolutely no way you could call Harbaugh a flip flopper without calling Meyer something worse...

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #78

    @mld-woody said:

    Please explain to me when Harbaugh flip flopped?

    I don't know if he has....that is why I asked the question......you do recognize this symbol: ? ...as a question mark? Not much of a grammar program they have there at Meshugana is it? Can't recognize simple punctuation?

    Was it when he was at UF,

    I didn't know that Harbaugh went to Findlay. I thought he went to Western Michigan.

    got a headache and left (after creating a team of criminals and having his Jesus scapegoat leave), saying i was for health reasons and to spend time with his family, only to jump to OSU at the first opportunity?

    No, but I think he gave everyone at San Francisco an headache and they asked him to leave there.

    (And FYI....if you are talking about Meyer......he did exactly what Harbaugh did.....he came home to coach, which is where he wanted to be....and yes....UM (ironic that those are his initials no?....did take that year off to be with his family....so he did exactly what he said he would do)

    You may not like Harbaugh. You may want to insult Michigan as much as possible. But there is absolutely no way you could call Harbaugh a flip flopper without calling Meyer something worse...

    Meyer took a year off from the stress.....spent the time with his family....just like he said he would. I don't ever recall that he claimed that he was permanently retired. Then his dream job came up....and after a down year he decided to pursue it. Its not like he jumped from the one job to the next....because that next job was not available for a year after he resigned from Florida.

    Harbaugh on the other hand jumped ship from Stanford for what he thought was a better job with the 49ers. But after a couple/three years the 49ers tired of his act (so much so that they were willing to forego the fact that he was still considered a good football coach). They would have rather endured the shitty year they are having now than to have still had Harbaugh as their HC. And since he was unemployed, the opportunity to coach his alma mater came up and he took it.........we are just not certain to be honest that Harbaugh considers this to be his dream job.

    So....Let's sum up:

    Coach A: Resigns from a successful job to spend time with family. The school he left is sorry that he had to go. Indeed, spends a whole year with his family.....then his dream job comes up a year later and he gets it.

    Coach B: Resigns from a successful job to take a lucrative position in the NFL. He has success in the NFL but the situation he creates there is so rancorous that they decide to essentially fire him. He leaves and jumps immediately into another high profile position at his alma mater.

    MLD WoodyM 1 Reply
  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

    @the-gipper said:

    I suspect he understands the system as well as you do....which means: very little.

    You'd be wrong, but you're used to that.

    The recruiting system is stacked against high school recruits. Programs have no reason to be loyal to them (see mainly SEC, OSU RB coach, etc). Recruits can use commitments as their own weapon. Top recruits are usually better off no committing early at all though. Unless they want to enroll early.

    Recruits commit and decommit all of the time. All of this kids don't have character issues. As much as some on here clearly want to insult the guy that left OSU for Michigan, it just comes off as petty, childish and ignorant.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #79

    @mld-woody said:

    You'd be wrong, but you're used to that.

    You have no clue if I am right or I am wrong. Cysco may indeed know more about it than you do.

    The recruiting system is stacked against high school recruits. Programs have no reason to be loyal to them (see mainly SEC, OSU RB coach, etc). Recruits can use commitments as their own weapon. Top recruits are usually better off no committing early at all though. Unless they want to enroll early.

    Recruits commit and decommit all of the time. All of this kids don't have character issues. As much as some on here clearly want to insult the guy that left OSU for Michigan, it just comes off as petty, childish and ignorant.

    So...in other words, he is acting just like you. As trust me, that is exactly how you are coming off....but perhaps that is your goal.

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @mld-woody said:

    You'd be wrong, but you're used to that.

    You have no clue if I am right or I am wrong. Cysco may indeed know more about it than you do.

    The recruiting system is stacked against high school recruits. Programs have no reason to be loyal to them (see mainly SEC, OSU RB coach, etc). Recruits can use commitments as their own weapon. Top recruits are usually better off no committing early at all though. Unless they want to enroll early.

    Recruits commit and decommit all of the time. All of this kids don't have character issues. As much as some on here clearly want to insult the guy that left OSU for Michigan, it just comes off as petty, childish and ignorant.

    So...in other words, he is acting just like you. As trust me, that is exactly how you are coming off....but perhaps that is your goal.

    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on
    #80

    @the-gipper said:

    @mld-woody said:

    You'd be wrong, but you're used to that.

    You have no clue if I am right or I am wrong. Cysco may indeed know more about it than you do.

    The recruiting system is stacked against high school recruits. Programs have no reason to be loyal to them (see mainly SEC, OSU RB coach, etc). Recruits can use commitments as their own weapon. Top recruits are usually better off no committing early at all though. Unless they want to enroll early.

    Recruits commit and decommit all of the time. All of this kids don't have character issues. As much as some on here clearly want to insult the guy that left OSU for Michigan, it just comes off as petty, childish and ignorant.

    So...in other words, he is acting just like you. As trust me, that is exactly how you are coming off....but perhaps that is your goal.

    Cysko basically admitted he doesn't follow recruiting already

    Of course I am...

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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