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“Technically, (Cam Erving) has no clue what he's doing." – LeCharles Bentley

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  • @flugel said:

    Erving didn't draft himself in the first round

    I agree that the high expectations aren't his fault, but they are however his problem. The Browns could've gone several different ways with that pick, and all of them better (so far) than picking a guy that is going to need several years to be just hopefully "solid"........ Hell, with the proper coaching and the proper self motivation in the player, as well as some God given physical talent, any UDF / 6th-7th round pick can develop into a "solid" player in only a few years.

    Me? I want far more than just "solid" from the 1st round.

    @d-bone said:

    I agree that the high expectations aren't his fault, but they are however his problem. The Browns could've gone several different ways with that pick, and all of them better (so far) than picking a guy that is going to need several years to be just hopefully "solid"........ Hell, with the proper coaching and the proper self motivation in the player, as well as some God given physical talent, any UDF / 6th-7th round pick can develop into a "solid" player in only a few years.

    Me? I want far more than just "solid" from the 1st round.

    I don't blame you D. Me too! This was just an elastic reach we couldn't afford.

    They could have also drafted Khalil Mack in lieu of Gilbert the year before. Last time I watched him play, Osweiler looked like he was wearing a silver and black 52 jersey every time he got up off the ground.

  • @d-bone said:

    I agree that the high expectations aren't his fault, but they are however his problem. The Browns could've gone several different ways with that pick, and all of them better (so far) than picking a guy that is going to need several years to be just hopefully "solid"........ Hell, with the proper coaching and the proper self motivation in the player, as well as some God given physical talent, any UDF / 6th-7th round pick can develop into a "solid" player in only a few years.

    Me? I want far more than just "solid" from the 1st round.

    I don't blame you D. Me too! This was just an elastic reach we couldn't afford.

    They could have also drafted Khalil Mack in lieu of Gilbert the year before. Last time I watched him play, Osweiler looked like he was wearing a silver and black 52 jersey every time he got up off the ground.

    @flugel said:

    I don't blame you D. Me too! This was just an elastic reach we couldn't afford.

    They could have also drafted Khalil Mack in lieu of Gilbert the year before. Last time I watched him play, Osweiler looked like he was wearing a silver and black 52 jersey every time he got up off the ground.

    Yep, until we rebuild this team with quality parts, it will continue to be a 4-6 win machine, with the occasional 7 win miracle season every other leap year. 😉

  • Not gonna be pretty when Mack leaves

    @comeonman said:

    Not gonna be pretty when Mack leaves

    And Schwartz , too!

  • It's a great pick if he's any good because the team must anticipate future free agents, problem is to this point he stinks.

  • I still think it was the right pick. No matter what people say he will be the future!

  • Lets see how it pans out. don't judge it prematurely.

    bitonio looks like a helluva pick though compared to cam.

  • Lets see how it pans out. don't judge it prematurely.

    bitonio looks like a helluva pick though compared to cam.

    @stillmotion said:

    Lets see how it pans out. don't judge it prematurely.

    bitonio looks like a helluva pick though compared to cam.

    Bitonio was terrible this year until he was put on IR

  • To be fair...he looked better today.

  • Agree, but also saw him as part of numerous double teams...

  • Agree, but also saw him as part of numerous double teams...

    @tour2ma said:

    Agree, but also saw him as part of numerous double teams...

    I'm not an OL expert like you....so my definition of "looking better" is I didn't see him falling on his ass in the backfield over and over again.

  • I'm not gonna judge the kid on one rookie season.. but.. Id like to see improvement...

  • He's been pancaked so many times that IHOP has asked for an endorsement commercial. 😉

    @texasag1969 said:

    He's been pancaked so many times that IHOP has asked for an endorsement commercial. 😉

    And he should take them up on their offer!!

  • @tour2ma said:

    Agree, but also saw him as part of numerous double teams...

    I'm not an OL expert like you....so my definition of "looking better" is I didn't see him falling on his ass in the backfield over and over again.

    @mark-o said:

    I'm not an OL expert like you....so my definition of "looking better" is I didn't see him falling on his ass in the backfield over and over again.

    Expert? Moi? Nah... just an aficionado. And it helps when no one steps on Erving's foot.

    I do see potential in Cam. It's just that you don't draft OL potential in Rnd 1.

  • Buster Skrine got better every year. He worked on his game every offseason and studied game film to try to improve. Not that any of that will matter when the new regime comes in and they want to replace everyone with their own guys but still.....

    It would be nice if Cam was that way.

    WSS

  • @comeonman said:

    Not gonna be pretty when Mack leaves

    And Schwartz , too!

    @nickers said:

    And Schwartz , too!

    heh heh heh, looks like our draft picks are going to be more olinemen...great, just great...and the wheels on the bus go round and round...heheheheheeeee...what a fucking mess....