Jonathan Paul Manziel
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Zombo said:
In a game where we were behind the whole time and needed to pass to win.
C'mon man.
25% of his passes were just ridiculous.
Trade this clown, draft Paxtom Lynch and let's try this again.
How can you be two years into a NfL program and still have no idea where to throw the ball?
Z
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He was 13 out of 32! In a winnable game.
C'mon, man, this is the NFL, get real.
Z
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And yet somehow we were right there at the end. Go figure.
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And yet somehow we were right there at the end. Go figure.
And yet somehow we were right there at the end. Go figure.
Go figure. The defense played well. We hung in there.
We needed some goddamn completions from a professional QB.
He did some great running today. But, in crunchtime we needed a passer.
And he failed at that.
It's embarrassing.
Let Josh tutor Paxton next year and let Johnny take his horseshit to Dallas or something.
Z
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He was running for his life a lot, but it doesn't excuse the poor throws. Gannon showed on replay his flaws throwing to his left at least twice during the game.
Benjamin was wide open on the last possession (3rd & 10 maybe?) and he overthrew him. The whole tune of the board would be different if he hit that pass & pulled off the upset.
Frustrating as hell, but to their credit, the Browns haven't packed it in.
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I'm thinking Paxton Lynch.
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
And yet somehow we were right there at the end. Go figure.
Go figure. The defense played well. We hung in there.
We needed some goddamn completions from a professional QB.
He did some great running today. But, in crunchtime we needed a passer.
And he failed at that.
It's embarrassing.
Let Josh tutor Paxton next year and let Johnny take his horseshit to Dallas or something.
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Zombo said:
Go figure. The defense played well. We hung in there.
We needed some goddamn completions from a professional QB.
He did some great running today. But, in crunchtime we needed a passer.
And he failed at that.
It's embarrassing.
Let Josh tutor Paxton next year and let Johnny take his horseshit to Dallas or something.
Z
And trade up so we can get Lynch at number one. That will make him better.
And we will all meet same time, same station next year.
The year after, and the year after...
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Manziel is horrible. Literally horrible. 13 out of 32? Take Paxton Lynch and move on from this assclown.
Throws were open and he didnt see them or missed them.
I'm sorry, but this is the NFL. You can run around like Steve Young if you can pass like Steve Young, but if you pass like Johnny Manziel you are nothing but a poor man's Doug Flutie. Fuck that.
Z
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Zombo said:
Go figure. The defense played well. We hung in there.
We needed some goddamn completions from a professional QB.
He did some great running today. But, in crunchtime we needed a passer.
And he failed at that.
It's embarrassing.
Let Josh tutor Paxton next year and let Johnny take his horseshit to Dallas or something.
Z
And trade up so we can get Lynch at number one. That will make him better.
And we will all meet same time, same station next year.
The year after, and the year after...
WSS
And trade up so we can get Lynch at number one. That will make him better.
And we will all meet same time, same station next year.
The year after, and the year after...
WSS
Question, aren't we at #2, and the Titans don't need a qb, we should get him at 2. I know nothing about Lynch, but wait a year and get Rosen from UCLA.
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Manziel is horrible. Literally horrible. 13 out of 32? Take Paxton Lynch and move on from this assclown.
Throws were open and he didnt see them or missed them.
I'm sorry, but this is the NFL. You can run around like Steve Young if you can pass like Steve Young, but if you pass like Johnny Manziel you are nothing but a poor man's Doug Flutie. Fuck that.
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Zombo said:
Manziel is horrible. Literally horrible. 13 out of 32? Take Paxton Lynch and move on from this assclown.
Throws were open and he didnt see them or missed them.
I'm sorry, but this is the NFL. You can run around like Steve Young if you can pass like Steve Young, but if you pass like Johnny Manziel you are nothing but a poor man's Doug Flutie. Fuck that.
Z
Yeah real QB's are always perfect. Rogers sacked 8 times, two fumbles he lost returned for TD's and pick off in the end zone at the end of the first half that might have gotten them in the game. Yep, today in the NFL with a Superbowl winner having an off day. Get real.
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Defense was great today. Johnny's accuracy was really off today. Also some head scratching decisions.
His footwork is definitely a huge problem. He's also slow to make the read.
He'll still best Pittsburgh though.
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Zombo said:
Manziel is horrible. Literally horrible. 13 out of 32? Take Paxton Lynch and move on from this assclown.
Throws were open and he didnt see them or missed them.
I'm sorry, but this is the NFL. You can run around like Steve Young if you can pass like Steve Young, but if you pass like Johnny Manziel you are nothing but a poor man's Doug Flutie. Fuck that.
Z
Yeah real QB's are always perfect. Rogers sacked 8 times, two fumbles he lost returned for TD's and pick off in the end zone at the end of the first half that might have gotten them in the game. Yep, today in the NFL with a Superbowl winner having an off day. Get real.
Yeah real QB's are always perfect. Rogers sacked 8 times, two fumbles he lost returned for TD's and pick off in the end zone at the end of the first half that might have gotten them in the game. Yep, today in the NFL with a Superbowl winner having an off day. Get real.
We aren't sure Manziel is even a real QB. Until he proves that...he's inaccurate and has piss poor footwork and hasn't done anything to prove he's going to be a winner in the NFL.
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Zombo said:
Manziel is horrible. Literally horrible. 13 out of 32? Take Paxton Lynch and move on from this assclown.
Throws were open and he didnt see them or missed them.
I'm sorry, but this is the NFL. You can run around like Steve Young if you can pass like Steve Young, but if you pass like Johnny Manziel you are nothing but a poor man's Doug Flutie. Fuck that.
Z
Yeah real QB's are always perfect. Rogers sacked 8 times, two fumbles he lost returned for TD's and pick off in the end zone at the end of the first half that might have gotten them in the game. Yep, today in the NFL with a Superbowl winner having an off day. Get real.
Yeah real QB's are always perfect. Rogers sacked 8 times, two fumbles he lost returned for TD's and pick off in the end zone at the end of the first half that might have gotten them in the game. Yep, today in the NFL with a Superbowl winner having an off day. Get real.
Aaron Rogers?
That's your comparison???
C'mon man.
This is your saddest moment.
Take some time off and think about what you just said.
We needed an NFL QB today in the 4th Q and we got a little boy.
If you want to compare Johnny's stats to Rogers, we can do that ... but ... you might wanna just take a few days off.
Z
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VesnaKociper said:
Couldn't have said it better, Zombo. You have to admit, completing a pass to anoffensive lineman only adds to my schpiel. Funny, funny stuff.
He cares. He's passionate. He wants to win ... he sucks as an NFL passer.
A&M homos think the Browns are a joke ... he is making us a bigger joke and it is embarrassing.
This clown is not NFL material. Let's admit it as an organization, draft the big fucking Irishman from Memphis and move on.
Z
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Pettine said in his press conference that this was a step forward for Manziel, I'm on board now fire his ass.
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Pettine said in his press conference that this was a step forward for Manziel, I'm on board now fire his ass.
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did you see the stat line?
http://m.clevelandbrowns.com/s/35610/201?itemUri=-1861016346/1111039910010158131315212130
Johnny Manziel is a fucking stud. he's "getting it". i am proud of the Kid--many seem to overlook that he's still young as hell--it matters. he also has low miles, a high FB IQ, fire. he is a natural, has seemingly unltd moxie...like a fiesty squirmy lump of clay with intangible HOF potential.
admit these are some tough ass games, and with only 6 starts we are competitive. San Diego, Denver, Balt2, K.C...in a vacuum next year these would all be wins.
yes, he leaves a ton of plays on the field. but he is also a down converting beast when it's do or die.
to me i feel he is getting better every game. once the game slows down and the playbook becomes second nature it's gonna get crazy in Cleveland. my biggest concern is durability: the AFCN is hell on QB's.
there's probably more than a million people who believe in him, and fwiw i am one of them. give him weapons, reps, and continuity and get the hell out of his way.
i hope they do go ahead and draft Paxton cuz chances are it would just make Johnny better. they have a Heath Miller, but they are missing a Jordan Cameron...Dray just drops too many balls.
year 2 w a healthy Hartline, Benjamin and Barnidge is gonna be huge. Hawkins and Gabriel are invisible, it's time to focus on Pryor full time imo.
Barnidge, Pryor, Moore and Gordon blocking on running plays? who needs a fullback w those mismatches??? combining that with play action Johnny could take over the league in 2016.
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Manziel is horrible. Literally horrible. 13 out of 32? Take Paxton Lynch and move on from this assclown.
Throws were open and he didnt see them or missed them.
I'm sorry, but this is the NFL. You can run around like Steve Young if you can pass like Steve Young, but if you pass like Johnny Manziel you are nothing but a poor man's Doug Flutie. Fuck that.
Z
Zombo said:
Manziel is horrible. Literally horrible. 13 out of 32? Take Paxton Lynch and move on from this assclown.
Throws were open and he didnt see them or missed them.
I'm sorry, but this is the NFL. You can run around like Steve Young if you can pass like Steve Young, but if you pass like Johnny Manziel you are nothing but a poor man's Doug Flutie. Fuck that.
Z
Our resident genius analyst.
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Zombo said:
Manziel is horrible. Literally horrible. 13 out of 32? Take Paxton Lynch and move on from this assclown.
Throws were open and he didnt see them or missed them.
I'm sorry, but this is the NFL. You can run around like Steve Young if you can pass like Steve Young, but if you pass like Johnny Manziel you are nothing but a poor man's Doug Flutie. Fuck that.
Z
Our resident genius analyst.
Our resident genius analyst.
Ok, should we revisit this in two years, or do you want to tell me right now where my analysis is wrong?
Please don't start with the guards. Name all of the teams with Pro Bowl Left Tackles and Centers and tell me why their 5'11 quarterback can't throw an out to save his life.
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