Jonathan Paul Manziel
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He has had the same tryout as weeden and weeden was better in his 2 years. So im on board for next qb up. I'm liking lynch currently but need to watch goff and I've seen cook enough to know his arm is LASER ACCURATE sometimes and catfish on the deck other times.
"Manziel is good when he isn't terrible" is the best description of manziel for the past 2 years
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Has it ever occurred to anyone that we need receivers who can get open? Or come back for the ball and help their quarterback out. They don't have any talented offensive weapons! Benjamin cannot be their only playmaker! We don't have a legitimate number 1 and it shows. If we had a running game, Johnny wouldn't be running for his life. Defenses have no respect for our Oline and run game. We need an over haul on offense.
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"allegedly drinking a Four Loko." These words in the story include a link...to a twitter post...which is a link...to this article. What?
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Im not a Manziel fan, but the first thing he should do in any social event with his friends is smash his cell phone then all of their cell phones.
How he, or any or his friends, are stupid enough to record anything on their phones and post it to the Internet is beyond me.
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Nothing story. He's clearly at home, not out of control, with what looks like one friend. Who cares?
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Personally I love the title of the post. I believe it's from the department of redundancy department.

WSS
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An you imagine when he wrecks this league and gets names super bowl mvp? All our sons will want to act like him and all our daughters will wanna fuck kids who are like him.
An you imagine when he wrecks this league and gets names super bowl mvp? All our sons will want to act like him and all our daughters will wanna fuck kids who are like him.
Frankly I think this is a meeting with video. I have a lot nasty or response for you but what the heck it is the holiday season so to answer your question, who cares, seriously?
Those of you guys who want to hate the kid aren't going to change but if this really outrageous you then I can't imagine how you get through your day without climbing a clock tower with ano m16.
WSS
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It's not the video that is outrageous. It's the fact he knows his videos always get a negative response and he just keeps on posting them as if to be rebellious. I've tried to come around on the kid but he makes it so damn hard to like him especially since he not only embarrasses himself but the organization.
He holds a presser where someone coaches him to say the right things and then later that night he acts like a high school kid that got a hold of a camera and his dad's liquor cabinet key. I guess he needs to protect his image tho.
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Benji is okay he is literally just fast. He is not a playmaker. Why browns fans hype an average slot player is beyond me.
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Thank God this is no longer a discussion or debate.
Manziel is better than he was the day he was drafted...... but that's a very, very low bar.
He's not a starter in this league, he's nowhere near franchise-level, and I hope Scheiner can get a second-round pick for his bucket of dramatic fail.
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Johnny Manziel - Browns 2016 starting QB.
So sorry.
I'm not convinced based on his shitty footwork and slow reads that he could beat out Josh McCown for the starting job next year. If he's not shipped off to Dallas in the offseason.
I'm not convinced based on his shitty footwork and slow reads that he could beat out Josh McCown for the starting job next year. If he's not shipped off to Dallas in the offseason.
If we're trying to contend next year (as we should be every year), I take Josh as my starter given the current roster.
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The big question is, why the hell would Johnny Manziel drink a four loko?
Those are for college kids with $5 in their pocket who want a quick fix.
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An you imagine when he wrecks this league and gets names super bowl mvp? All our sons will want to act like him and all our daughters will wanna fuck kids who are like him.
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Actually the browns offensive line played great. Best protection qb had all year. 0 qb sacks but I guess John gets the credit for that to help out whomever's argument.
Actually the browns offensive line played great. Best protection qb had all year. 0 qb sacks but I guess John gets the credit for that to help out whomever's argument.
LOL- Go watch the replay. Then come here and honestly say a slow QB would not have been sacked 6-8 times minimum. No he did not have a good game and he was well off on his throws, but no one can say he did not extend plays multiple times per possession. And whether any of you Lynchsuckers like it or not, his legs got us back in the game and had us in position to go for a win at the end. And has anyone seen a slower ref this year bring the ball in for the last play that should have been? He took up all the time as he waddled back to the hashmark. He's lucky JM didn't bash him with his helmet instead of the ground.
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Actually the browns offensive line played great. Best protection qb had all year. 0 qb sacks but I guess John gets the credit for that to help out whomever's argument.
LOL- Go watch the replay. Then come here and honestly say a slow QB would not have been sacked 6-8 times minimum. No he did not have a good game and he was well off on his throws, but no one can say he did not extend plays multiple times per possession. And whether any of you Lynchsuckers like it or not, his legs got us back in the game and had us in position to go for a win at the end. And has anyone seen a slower ref this year bring the ball in for the last play that should have been? He took up all the time as he waddled back to the hashmark. He's lucky JM didn't bash him with his helmet instead of the ground.
LOL- Go watch the replay. Then come here and honestly say a slow QB would not have been sacked 6-8 times minimum. No he did not have a good game and he was well off on his throws, but no one can say he did not extend plays multiple times per possession. And whether any of you Lynchsuckers like it or not, his legs got us back in the game and had us in position to go for a win at the end. And has anyone seen a slower ref this year bring the ball in for the last play that should have been? He took up all the time as he waddled back to the hashmark. He's lucky JM didn't bash him with his helmet instead of the ground.
He did very well on the ground and avoiding sacks, but he still couldn't throw the ball yesterday

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Actually the browns offensive line played great. Best protection qb had all year. 0 qb sacks but I guess John gets the credit for that to help out whomever's argument.
LOL- Go watch the replay. Then come here and honestly say a slow QB would not have been sacked 6-8 times minimum. No he did not have a good game and he was well off on his throws, but no one can say he did not extend plays multiple times per possession. And whether any of you Lynchsuckers like it or not, his legs got us back in the game and had us in position to go for a win at the end. And has anyone seen a slower ref this year bring the ball in for the last play that should have been? He took up all the time as he waddled back to the hashmark. He's lucky JM didn't bash him with his helmet instead of the ground.
No he did not have a good game and he was well off on his throws, but no one can say he did not extend plays multiple times per possession.
If he was a starting-caliber NFL quarterback... he wouldn't have to extend plays multiple times per possession... because the only reason he had to extend those plays is because he cannot go through a progression.
In short: He was bad at throwing the ball, and made up for it by being even worse at deciding when to [badly] throw the ball.
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LOL- Go watch the replay. Then come here and honestly say a slow QB would not have been sacked 6-8 times minimum. No he did not have a good game and he was well off on his throws, but no one can say he did not extend plays multiple times per possession. And whether any of you Lynchsuckers like it or not, his legs got us back in the game and had us in position to go for a win at the end. And has anyone seen a slower ref this year bring the ball in for the last play that should have been? He took up all the time as he waddled back to the hashmark. He's lucky JM didn't bash him with his helmet instead of the ground.
He did very well on the ground and avoiding sacks, but he still couldn't throw the ball yesterday

He did very well on the ground and avoiding sacks, but he still couldn't throw the ball yesterday

No he couldn't. No argument there. But sometimes it's just possible a QB, like any pitcher, has a bad game. I find it interesting that in the Cleveland netherworld that automatically qualifies for shipment to Dallas for what would be next to nothing in trade. Jerry Jones will squeeze you for every ounce of stupidity you are willing to give.
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He did very well on the ground and avoiding sacks, but he still couldn't throw the ball yesterday

No he couldn't. No argument there. But sometimes it's just possible a QB, like any pitcher, has a bad game. I find it interesting that in the Cleveland netherworld that automatically qualifies for shipment to Dallas for what would be next to nothing in trade. Jerry Jones will squeeze you for every ounce of stupidity you are willing to give.
No he couldn't. No argument there. But sometimes it's just possible a QB, like any pitcher, has a bad game.
I'm not opposed to keeping Johnny next year because I still want him to pan out for us, I'd happily chalk it up as a "bad game" except he has never had a good game against an opponent better than the 49ers or Titans (who just got torched by Brandon Weeden).
His footwork and vision are his biggest problems as I see it. He has shown little to no improvement in either area since last year - and is looking more and more like a Tebow.
Pittsburgh will probably be a huge game for his hopes at starting next year - I don't think we ship him to Dallas unless we get away with highway robbery.
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