Jonathan Paul Manziel
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JFF will still be in the running next year. All I can say.
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JUST SAY NO TO PAXTON LYNCH! Don't believe the hype! He's another Tim Couch in a crappy field of QB's coming out this year. Farmer blew it in 2014! This year's class sucks. There's not a blue chip among them.
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He’s 6’6″ with outstanding athleticism so making Lynch the new it-boy was actually a good idea. The only thing about that is he had to keep playing this season and if he’s really not that guy, it will be exposed. We all know that NFL teams prefer big Quarterbacks, especially when they have the rare foot quickness and athleticism he has for his size.
But if that were all it took, Colin Kaepernick and Robert Griffin III would have ascended to superstars. Not that Lynch is so much like them as his Spread Offense has more deep to intermediate passes with progressions than the other two. And while he does have the ability to gain yards as a runner, Lynch is more comfortable from the pocket.
But he doesn’t have the ability to throw in the run the other two QBs and Tennessee Titans quarterback Marcus Mariota has. Lynch’s completion percentage from inside the pocket is an impressive 72.4 percent, but it’s just 38.9 percent when scrambling right and 45.5 percent when rolling out to the left.
Despite his size, his arm talent has often come into question among scouts as his football stays in the air too long at times. He also winds up on his delivery at times and doesn’t place the ball as consistently as he should. Then of course, since he didn’t come from Power-5 conference shool, he doesn’t have enough big wins on his resume.
He and his Memphis Tigers’ win over Ole’ Miss was huge and that’s why he was able to come out of nowhere. But shortly after, he lost to Navy and Saturday against Temple, he had a pedestrian 156 yards passing with no TDs in a loss. It doesn’t look like there’s going to be an it-boy in this year’s quarterback class.
Perhaps the media will create one duri
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As am I. Don't know if your playing devil's advocate bout I've never seen this much loyalty outta you Tim. I seemed to remember you not being thrilled about the pick and was in the Blake bortles bandwagon. But you wanna be proud of what you seen outta the position today I can respect that. It's what you've always wanted I guess.
I wasn't thrilled about the pick, and I haven't been thrilled by his last two performances. But the "this guy sucks, let's get this this guy instead" mindset has literally NEVER worked for us.
I was proud of what I saw from Manziel in glimpses. He had the flu, we were missing multiple receivers and our two starting guards...and Manziel said nothing about any of that in his post game presser.
It was a bad performance, but it's not the end of the world.
But the "this guy sucks, let's get this this guy instead" mindset has literally NEVER worked for us.
It was a bad performance, but it's not the end of the world.
i guess this only goes for players you like?
what about coaches?
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Well Big Ben has antonio brown and martavius bryant and threw for barely over 200 yards and two picks.
Rodgers threw for 151 yards and a pick.
lets see how he does against the steelers before we write him off for life.
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the part about this argument I find absolutely hilarious is all you mofos talk about patience. I read crap over and over about how pettine and insert player deserve more time and we need consistency to win.Johnny had a bad game of football throwing it, but he's played 6 god damn games. Just face it, people here don't like the dude and use any reason possible to talk him down.
You know what I saw? A young QB who had a bad game-oh no! I don't think any other QB in the history of the world had a bad completion game. I'm not even on the bandwagon fully yet, but why does Johnny not deserve a chance to develop but insert player or dumb fuck Pettine does?
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But the "this guy sucks, let's get this this guy instead" mindset has literally NEVER worked for us.
It was a bad performance, but it's not the end of the world.
i guess this only goes for players you like?
what about coaches?
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Well Big Ben has antonio brown and martavius bryant and threw for barely over 200 yards and two picks.
Rodgers threw for 151 yards and a pick.
lets see how he does against the steelers before we write him off for life.
Well Big Ben has antonio brown and martavius bryant and threw for barely over 200 yards and two picks.
Rodgers threw for 151 yards and a pick.
lets see how he does against the steelers before we write him off for life.
Jesus fucking Christ....Raplessburger and Rogers have 3 Super Bowl rings and numerous playoff wins between them. Little elf Johnny has 2 NFL wins under his belt. Anyone who tries to compare him to the NFL's best needs to have their fucking head examined.
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the part about this argument I find absolutely hilarious is all you mofos talk about patience. I read crap over and over about how pettine and insert player deserve more time and we need consistency to win.Johnny had a bad game of football throwing it, but he's played 6 god damn games. Just face it, people here don't like the dude and use any reason possible to talk him down.
You know what I saw? A young QB who had a bad game-oh no! I don't think any other QB in the history of the world had a bad completion game. I'm not even on the bandwagon fully yet, but why does Johnny not deserve a chance to develop but insert player or dumb fuck Pettine does?
the part about this argument I find absolutely hilarious is all you mofos talk about patience. I read crap over and over about how pettine and insert player deserve more time and we need consistency to win.Johnny had a bad game of football throwing it, but he's played 6 god damn games. Just face it, people here don't like the dude and use any reason possible to talk him down.
You know what I saw? A young QB who had a bad game-oh no! I don't think any other QB in the history of the world had a bad completion game. I'm not even on the bandwagon fully yet, but why does Johnny not deserve a chance to develop but insert player or dumb fuck Pettine does?
I think the issue is more that he hasn't even had games that have risen to the level of RG3. In his short career he's had 3 good games. He's thrown multiple TDs once. As a starter he is 2-6 with wins over Tennessee and San Francisco. When you look at him play the only thing that makes him look like a viable NFL QB is he can run and look how well that has played out over the years. He doesn't go through his progressions well. His footwork is atrocious and he rarely steps into throws to deliver them accurately. If he was QB'ing the Titans he'd be a joke on this board. Now add to all that the off the field distractions and as a fan you have to stop and say, "why on earth are we still talking about this". With the exception of a Heisman trophy just draft Baker Mayfield in 2 years and you've got the same guy. Who's stumping for Mayfield 2017....that's right no one.
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the part about this argument I find absolutely hilarious is all you mofos talk about patience. I read crap over and over about how pettine and insert player deserve more time and we need consistency to win.Johnny had a bad game of football throwing it, but he's played 6 god damn games. Just face it, people here don't like the dude and use any reason possible to talk him down.
You know what I saw? A young QB who had a bad game-oh no! I don't think any other QB in the history of the world had a bad completion game. I'm not even on the bandwagon fully yet, but why does Johnny not deserve a chance to develop but insert player or dumb fuck Pettine does?
I think the issue is more that he hasn't even had games that have risen to the level of RG3. In his short career he's had 3 good games. He's thrown multiple TDs once. As a starter he is 2-6 with wins over Tennessee and San Francisco. When you look at him play the only thing that makes him look like a viable NFL QB is he can run and look how well that has played out over the years. He doesn't go through his progressions well. His footwork is atrocious and he rarely steps into throws to deliver them accurately. If he was QB'ing the Titans he'd be a joke on this board. Now add to all that the off the field distractions and as a fan you have to stop and say, "why on earth are we still talking about this". With the exception of a Heisman trophy just draft Baker Mayfield in 2 years and you've got the same guy. Who's stumping for Mayfield 2017....that's right no one.
I think the issue is more that he hasn't even had games that have risen to the level of RG3. In his short career he's had 3 good games. He's thrown multiple TDs once. As a starter he is 2-6 with wins over Tennessee and San Francisco. When you look at him play the only thing that makes him look like a viable NFL QB is he can run and look how well that has played out over the years. He doesn't go through his progressions well. His footwork is atrocious and he rarely steps into throws to deliver them accurately. If he was QB'ing the Titans he'd be a joke on this board. Now add to all that the off the field distractions and as a fan you have to stop and say, "why on earth are we still talking about this". With the exception of a Heisman trophy just draft Baker Mayfield in 2 years and you've got the same guy. Who's stumping for Mayfield 2017....that's right no one.
Using the record as a metric from an awful team isn't reasonable at all to put on Manziel. Peyton Manning's rookie year he went 1-15 and that turned out okay I'd say.
I'm sick as hell right now so I don't wanna spend all day typing, but everything you're saying isn't inherently wrong. I see where he's done all that right though, and has to show he can put it together. The only way a QB has a chance to do that is with rapport with his WRs, time and experience. If Mike Pettine deserves more time than Johnny Manziel does too. You can't have it both ways in that thinking.
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Well Big Ben has antonio brown and martavius bryant and threw for barely over 200 yards and two picks.
Rodgers threw for 151 yards and a pick.
lets see how he does against the steelers before we write him off for life.
Jesus fucking Christ....Raplessburger and Rogers have 3 Super Bowl rings and numerous playoff wins between them. Little elf Johnny has 2 NFL wins under his belt. Anyone who tries to compare him to the NFL's best needs to have their fucking head examined.
Jesus fucking Christ....Raplessburger and Rogers have 3 Super Bowl rings and numerous playoff wins between them. Little elf Johnny has 2 NFL wins under his belt. Anyone who tries to compare him to the NFL's best needs to have their fucking head examined.
ALL QBs have bad games. it doesn't matter who the fuck you are if you're a QB. But what i have a problem with is everyone being so quick to jump the gun and write him off because he has ONE BAD GAME.
give him a fucking chance.
So it's alright for some QBs to have a bad game and understandable, but for johnny, fuck him, he needs to go, right?
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Jesus fucking Christ....Raplessburger and Rogers have 3 Super Bowl rings and numerous playoff wins between them. Little elf Johnny has 2 NFL wins under his belt. Anyone who tries to compare him to the NFL's best needs to have their fucking head examined.
ALL QBs have bad games. it doesn't matter who the fuck you are if you're a QB. But what i have a problem with is everyone being so quick to jump the gun and write him off because he has ONE BAD GAME.
give him a fucking chance.
So it's alright for some QBs to have a bad game and understandable, but for johnny, fuck him, he needs to go, right?
ALL QBs have bad games. it doesn't matter who the fuck you are if you're a QB. But what i have a problem with is everyone being so quick to jump the gun and write him off because he has ONE BAD GAME.
give him a fucking chance.
So it's alright for some QBs to have a bad game and understandable, but for johnny, fuck him, he needs to go, right?
Has he had more than 1 good game yet?
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I think the issue is more that he hasn't even had games that have risen to the level of RG3. In his short career he's had 3 good games. He's thrown multiple TDs once. As a starter he is 2-6 with wins over Tennessee and San Francisco. When you look at him play the only thing that makes him look like a viable NFL QB is he can run and look how well that has played out over the years. He doesn't go through his progressions well. His footwork is atrocious and he rarely steps into throws to deliver them accurately. If he was QB'ing the Titans he'd be a joke on this board. Now add to all that the off the field distractions and as a fan you have to stop and say, "why on earth are we still talking about this". With the exception of a Heisman trophy just draft Baker Mayfield in 2 years and you've got the same guy. Who's stumping for Mayfield 2017....that's right no one.
Using the record as a metric from an awful team isn't reasonable at all to put on Manziel. Peyton Manning's rookie year he went 1-15 and that turned out okay I'd say.
I'm sick as hell right now so I don't wanna spend all day typing, but everything you're saying isn't inherently wrong. I see where he's done all that right though, and has to show he can put it together. The only way a QB has a chance to do that is with rapport with his WRs, time and experience. If Mike Pettine deserves more time than Johnny Manziel does too. You can't have it both ways in that thinking.
Using the record as a metric from an awful team isn't reasonable at all to put on Manziel. Peyton Manning's rookie year he went 1-15 and that turned out okay I'd say.
I'm sick as hell right now so I don't wanna spend all day typing, but everything you're saying isn't inherently wrong. I see where he's done all that right though, and has to show he can put it together. The only way a QB has a chance to do that is with rapport with his WRs, time and experience. If Mike Pettine deserves more time than Johnny Manziel does too. You can't have it both ways in that thinking.
Mike Pettine doesn't come with everything else. If you put stats side by side Mccown has blown Manziel out of the water but yet when the team was struggling the moron fans are chanting "we want Johnny". It will always happen. He provides a spark but that's it there is no substance.
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Jesus fucking Christ....Raplessburger and Rogers have 3 Super Bowl rings and numerous playoff wins between them. Little elf Johnny has 2 NFL wins under his belt. Anyone who tries to compare him to the NFL's best needs to have their fucking head examined.
ALL QBs have bad games. it doesn't matter who the fuck you are if you're a QB. But what i have a problem with is everyone being so quick to jump the gun and write him off because he has ONE BAD GAME.
give him a fucking chance.
So it's alright for some QBs to have a bad game and understandable, but for johnny, fuck him, he needs to go, right?
ALL QBs have bad games. it doesn't matter who the fuck you are if you're a QB. But what i have a problem with is everyone being so quick to jump the gun and write him off because he has ONE BAD GAME.
give him a fucking chance.
So it's alright for some QBs to have a bad game and understandable, but for johnny, fuck him, he needs to go, right?
Completion % 33rd in the league
Rating 31st in the league
YPG 35th in the league
YPA 29th in the league
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This is a non story .......................................................................................................................................FOR ANYONE WHO DIDN'T SPEND 11 WEEKS IN REHAB.
Now go ahead and hit me with the "we don't know why he was there bullshit". IF he were in control as some would suggest he wouldn't continue to post the selfie vids knowing they jeopardize his career.
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That song is what sucks. Rap music is the devil!
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the part about this argument I find absolutely hilarious is all you mofos talk about patience. I read crap over and over about how pettine and insert player deserve more time and we need consistency to win.Johnny had a bad game of football throwing it, but he's played 6 god damn games. Just face it, people here don't like the dude and use any reason possible to talk him down.
You know what I saw? A young QB who had a bad game-oh no! I don't think any other QB in the history of the world had a bad completion game. I'm not even on the bandwagon fully yet, but why does Johnny not deserve a chance to develop but insert player or dumb fuck Pettine does?
the part about this argument I find absolutely hilarious is all you mofos talk about patience. I read crap over and over about how pettine and insert player deserve more time and we need consistency to win.Johnny had a bad game of football throwing it, but he's played 6 god damn games. Just face it, people here don't like the dude and use any reason possible to talk him down.
You know what I saw? A young QB who had a bad game-oh no! I don't think any other QB in the history of the world had a bad completion game. I'm not even on the bandwagon fully yet, but why does Johnny not deserve a chance to develop but insert player or dumb fuck Pettine does?
^^^Exactly!
Mike
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I watched the video a couple of times and not once did I see him drink anything.
On a side note what was that white powder stuff on the pool table?
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i've bashed johnny pretty good in the past BUT unless there is some serious shit going on, this is nothing.
i know his passing game yesterday sucked ass but when he threw his helmet in disgust after losing a meaningless game...............well, i'll give him a pass for having a bunch of tools for friends.
he needs to enforce the jeter rules. once you come in the door you put all mobile devices in a basket. on your way out you get them back.......along with a gift basket of cookies.
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the part about this argument I find absolutely hilarious is all you mofos talk about patience. I read crap over and over about how pettine and insert player deserve more time and we need consistency to win.Johnny had a bad game of football throwing it, but he's played 6 god damn games. Just face it, people here don't like the dude and use any reason possible to talk him down.
You know what I saw? A young QB who had a bad game-oh no! I don't think any other QB in the history of the world had a bad completion game. I'm not even on the bandwagon fully yet, but why does Johnny not deserve a chance to develop but insert player or dumb fuck Pettine does?
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the part about this argument I find absolutely hilarious is all you mofos talk about patience. I read crap over and over about how pettine and insert player deserve more time and we need consistency to win.Johnny had a bad game of football throwing it, but he's played 6 god damn games. Just face it, people here don't like the dude and use any reason possible to talk him down.
You know what I saw? A young QB who had a bad game-oh no! I don't think any other QB in the history of the world had a bad completion game. I'm not even on the bandwagon fully yet, but why does Johnny not deserve a chance to develop but insert player or dumb fuck Pettine does?
the part about this argument I find absolutely hilarious is all you mofos talk about patience. I read crap over and over about how pettine and insert player deserve more time and we need consistency to win.Johnny had a bad game of football throwing it, but he's played 6 god damn games. Just face it, people here don't like the dude and use any reason possible to talk him down.
You know what I saw? A young QB who had a bad game-oh no! I don't think any other QB in the history of the world had a bad completion game. I'm not even on the bandwagon fully yet, but why does Johnny not deserve a chance to develop but insert player or dumb fuck Pettine does?
and vice versa.
rodgers got beat by a team that will likely represent the nfc in the super bowl this year. the steelers aren't that great no matter what the talking heads say. the browns had chances to win a game against a playoff bound team, maybe spoil their trip. and bad QB play was one of the reasons the upset didn't happen.
i like his (manziel's) gumption but we'd be crucifying ANYONE with a completion percentage like that yesterday....ANYONE.
fans are fickle and i'm sure even the high and mighty on here slip up and will break out the torches and pitch forks depending on who their particular likes and dislikes are.
if i'm pitching a case for pettine (and even farmer....let them ride out their contract) then i have to say the same for manziel. another year? what the hell. it's not like we haven't been waiting how long?
next year (IMO if i had it my way) would be the make or break year of the farmer, pettine and manziel experiment in cleveland.
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