Fail for Cardale revisited.
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Because we need 6 qbs on roster? Mccown,manziel,shaw,davis,wentz,jones?
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Because we need 6 qbs on roster? Mccown,manziel,shaw,davis,wentz,jones?
Because we need 6 qbs on roster? Mccown,manziel,shaw,davis,wentz,jones?
No. That's why I said trade Manziel, release Shaw and Davis.
Your reading comprehension is fantastic.
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Wentz/cook/Kessler/Dak/Hogan/Hackenberg/lynch/Goff/Sudfield.... if all of those QB's are gone take cardale but not before then. Also the logic you are using is that because it is unlikely to work out anyway fuck it get the big guy who has shown he can hand it to zeke real good?
Wentz/cook/Kessler/Dak/Hogan/Hackenberg/lynch/Goff/Sudfield.... if all of those QB's are gone take cardale but not before then. Also the logic you are using is that because it is unlikely to work out anyway fuck it get the big guy who has shown he can hand it to zeke real good?
No, my reasoning is more like "take a flier on the guy who has perfect measurables, a cannon arm, a national championship, and who passed for over 240 yards against Wisconsin, Alabama and Oregon each." There's at least a proof of concept there - as a project QB, that's more than most.
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Wentz/cook/Kessler/Dak/Hogan/Hackenberg/lynch/Goff/Sudfield.... if all of those QB's are gone take cardale but not before then. Also the logic you are using is that because it is unlikely to work out anyway fuck it get the big guy who has shown he can hand it to zeke real good?
No, my reasoning is more like "take a flier on the guy who has perfect measurables, a cannon arm, a national championship, and who passed for over 240 yards against Wisconsin, Alabama and Oregon each." There's at least a proof of concept there - as a project QB, that's more than most.
No, my reasoning is more like "take a flier on the guy who has perfect measurables, a cannon arm, a national championship, and who passed for over 240 yards against Wisconsin, Alabama and Oregon each." There's at least a proof of concept there - as a project QB, that's more than most.
In the 4th I'm completely in agreement. I could be talked into taking him in the 3rd...but I prefer the 4th.
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Somebody will waste a pick i really hope it isn't us.
Somebody will waste a pick i really hope it isn't us.
You're missing the point. If its a pick in the 4th round, is it really a waste? He probably won't pan out...but neither no 95% of other 4th round picks.
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EVERY pick has potential franchise changing implications Especially at QB. We reap what we sow here and i can't think of a better waste than drafting on size and what 4 goodish games? Some of the worst decision making i have seen at an osu qb and thats the guy your enamored with. Lol i hope the FO don't think this way
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EVERY pick has potential franchise changing implications Especially at QB. We reap what we sow here and i can't think of a better waste than drafting on size and what 4 goodish games? Some of the worst decision making i have seen at an osu qb and thats the guy your enamored with. Lol i hope the FO don't think this way
EVERY pick has potential franchise changing implications Especially at QB. We reap what we sow here and i can't think of a better waste than drafting on size and what 4 goodish games? Some of the worst decision making i have seen at an osu qb and thats the guy your enamored with. Lol i hope the FO don't think this way
Those four goodish games led to a national championship and he's what? 12-0 as the starting qb for osu. Don't forget about that.
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It's pretty clear i'm not going to change anyones mind with relevant facts so let's agree to disagree.
Just to point out ZERO QB's recruited by urban meyer have succeeded at the nfl level.
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It's pretty clear i'm not going to change anyones mind with relevant facts so let's agree to disagree.
Just to point out ZERO QB's recruited by urban meyer have succeeded at the nfl level.
It's pretty clear i'm not going to change anyones mind with relevant facts so let's agree to disagree.
Just to point out ZERO QB's recruited by urban meyer have succeeded at the nfl level.
Here's a fact for you dumbass Cardale Jones wasn't recruited by Urban Myers.
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It's pretty clear i'm not going to change anyones mind with relevant facts so let's agree to disagree.
Just to point out ZERO QB's recruited by urban meyer have succeeded at the nfl level.
It's pretty clear i'm not going to change anyones mind with relevant facts so let's agree to disagree.
Just to point out ZERO QB's recruited by urban meyer have succeeded at the nfl level.
I'm still waiting for relevant facts. When you can present them, I'm sure we'd be more inclined to listen.
But, as of now, you're just some nobody with a dumbass opinion and nothing to back it up.
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You realise your asking us to draft a qb with 270 career attempts? Thanks for validation lol
You realise your asking us to draft a qb with 270 career attempts? Thanks for validation lol
Um, it's not like drafting a guy from a D III school
You realize that the staying power of NFL draft picks drops significantly after the third round? You realize that only 5-8% of fourth round picks earn and maintain starting jobs, compared to about 25-30% of third rounders? You realize that, despite how much you don't like Jones, he's excelled on the biggest stage in college football - something no other QB prospect has done in this draft.
A QB needy team spending a fourth round pick on a 6'5" national champion QB is a no-fucking-brainer, regardless of his number of completions or relative inexperience. The potential benefit far outweighs the risk.
But I do see your point. Taking a flier on Cardale would be detrimental to us, because we could be missing out on guys like:
Vince Mayle
Pierre Desir
James Michael-Johnson
Owen Marecic
Kaluka Maiava
Beau Bell
Martin Rucker
Isaac Sowells
Leon Williams
Not like anyone here is asking the Browns to draft Cardale in the first.
Wentz/cook/Kessler/Dak/Hogan/Hackenberg/lynch/Goff/Sudfield.... if all of those QB's are gone take cardale but not before then. Also the logic you are using is that because it is unlikely to work out anyway fuck it get the big guy who has shown he can hand it to zeke real good?
Nah- I'm seeing a guy who can throw the ball out of the stadium, if necessary. Like effortless 50 yard bombs. Apparently that doesn't count in your book. IMHO he has as much arm as Rothlisberger, and that's plenty good enough-
No, my reasoning is more like "take a flier on the guy who has perfect measurables, a cannon arm, a national championship, and who passed for over 240 yards against Wisconsin, Alabama and Oregon each." There's at least a proof of concept there - as a project QB, that's more than most.
Exactly. I'd suggest our detractor look at qbs drafted in the 4th round, and compare measurables. LOL McCoy got drafted in the third, with all those fancy stats, and he's barely hanging on in the NFL.
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except game stats of course and the fact he has little experience. lemme ask how many passing yards did the heralded top 100 Prospect QB throw for today? 100? 200? couple of touchdowns? ran another in? lol the shitty part is his fiesta bowl performance is one of his best performances all year
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except game stats of course and the fact he has little experience. lemme ask how many passing yards did the heralded top 100 Prospect QB throw for today? 100? 200? couple of touchdowns? ran another in? lol the shitty part is his fiesta bowl performance is one of his best performances all year
except game stats of course and the fact he has little experience. lemme ask how many passing yards did the heralded top 100 Prospect QB throw for today? 100? 200? couple of touchdowns? ran another in? lol the shitty part is his fiesta bowl performance is one of his best performances all year
My bad.
I just realized you're fucking Retarded.
Sorry for the confusion.
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except game stats of course and the fact he has little experience. lemme ask how many passing yards did the heralded top 100 Prospect QB throw for today? 100? 200? couple of touchdowns? ran another in? lol the shitty part is his fiesta bowl performance is one of his best performances all year
except game stats of course and the fact he has little experience. lemme ask how many passing yards did the heralded top 100 Prospect QB throw for today? 100? 200? couple of touchdowns? ran another in? lol the shitty part is his fiesta bowl performance is one of his best performances all year
My bad.
I just realized you're fucking Retarded.
Sorry for the confusion.
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I actually think i might predate Stockton lol, Point of the matter here is the guy is a bench warmer this season after pretty crappy performance. I'm sorry if you had high hopes but he has been atrocious this season to the point of benching. if he cant cut it in the NCAA (against an easy schedule at that) what hope does he have in the NFL? is it rose colored glasses? I'm just trying to understand your illogical fanaticism with the guy. Nostalgia prehaps? your just setting yourself up for failure that way.
Last year he was the toast of the town round 1 pick potential looked like he could be something special. This year he well...you know what he brought to the table this year... he has played longer bad than he has played good...i just dont get it guys i really dont understand what the allure is... a benched QB in the 4th as a project requiring multiple years of training to get to a level that is consistent with a backup qb. We could draft ANY 6'4"-6'7" 230-260lb QB and attempt what your suggesting TCPO. I like Wentz in the second if he's there but that depends on combine numbers and luck . but doubling up on QB when we have other needs is a silly. -
He'll be reunited with Tom Herman in College Station next year. Save all this talk for January 2016.
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I actually think i might predate Stockton lol, Point of the matter here is the guy is a bench warmer this season after pretty crappy performance. I'm sorry if you had high hopes but he has been atrocious this season to the point of benching. if he cant cut it in the NCAA (against an easy schedule at that) what hope does he have in the NFL? is it rose colored glasses? I'm just trying to understand your illogical fanaticism with the guy. Nostalgia prehaps? your just setting yourself up for failure that way.
Last year he was the toast of the town round 1 pick potential looked like he could be something special. This year he well...you know what he brought to the table this year... he has played longer bad than he has played good...i just dont get it guys i really dont understand what the allure is... a benched QB in the 4th as a project requiring multiple years of training to get to a level that is consistent with a backup qb. We could draft ANY 6'4"-6'7" 230-260lb QB and attempt what your suggesting TCPO. I like Wentz in the second if he's there but that depends on combine numbers and luck . but doubling up on QB when we have other needs is a silly.I actually think i might predate Stockton lol, Point of the matter here is the guy is a bench warmer this season after pretty crappy performance. I'm sorry if you had high hopes but he has been atrocious this season to the point of benching. if he cant cut it in the NCAA (against an easy schedule at that) what hope does he have in the NFL? is it rose colored glasses? I'm just trying to understand your illogical fanaticism with the guy. Nostalgia prehaps? your just setting yourself up for failure that way.
Last year he was the toast of the town round 1 pick potential looked like he could be something special. This year he well...you know what he brought to the table this year... he has played longer bad than he has played good...i just dont get it guys i really dont understand what the allure is... a benched QB in the 4th as a project requiring multiple years of training to get to a level that is consistent with a backup qb. We could draft ANY 6'4"-6'7" 230-260lb QB and attempt what your suggesting TCPO. I like Wentz in the second if he's there but that depends on combine numbers and luck . but doubling up on QB when we have other needs is a silly.
He means you're re tarded. And you are.
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He'll be reunited with Tom Herman in College Station next year. Save all this talk for January 2016.
CDS is simply devaluing the context of Cardale's 270 completions. Not an unreasonable position... but I, like TCPO, think he is overvaluing a 4th round pick.
There are better QB prospects in this draft and they will go earlier than Cardale, but when the 2nd half of Day 2 come along Mr. Jones is going to look like a pretty good value pick. Certainly a lot better than Hackenburg in my eyes...
He'll be reunited with Tom Herman in College Station next year. Save all this talk for January 2016.
So UH is now TAMU's official HC prep school? The guy seemed pretty adamant about staying a UH for a while and rebuilding their long derelict program there.
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