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Fail for Cardale revisited.

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  • You realise your asking us to draft a qb with 270 career attempts? Thanks for validation lol

  • You realise your asking us to draft a qb with 270 career attempts? Thanks for validation lol

    @cainedesoulis said:

    You realise your asking us to draft a qb with 270 career attempts? Thanks for validation lol

    You realize that the staying power of NFL draft picks drops significantly after the third round? You realize that only 5-8% of fourth round picks earn and maintain starting jobs, compared to about 25-30% of third rounders? You realize that, despite how much you don't like Jones, he's excelled on the biggest stage in college football - something no other QB prospect has done in this draft.

    A QB needy team spending a fourth round pick on a 6'5" national champion QB is a no-fucking-brainer, regardless of his number of completions or relative inexperience. The potential benefit far outweighs the risk.

    But I do see your point. Taking a flier on Cardale would be detrimental to us, because we could be missing out on guys like:

    Vince Mayle

    Pierre Desir

    James Michael-Johnson

    Owen Marecic

    Kaluka Maiava

    Beau Bell

    Martin Rucker

    Isaac Sowells

    Leon Williams

  • I'd prefer Wentz to Cardale and you'll be hard pressed to find a Buckeye as devout as myself.

  • I'd prefer Wentz to Cardale and you'll be hard pressed to find a Buckeye as devout as myself.

    @tiamat63 said:

    I'd prefer Wentz to Cardale and you'll be hard pressed to find a Buckeye as devout as myself.

    See my previous post. I say we go Wentz in the second and, if he's available, Cardale in the fourth.

  • Wentz/cook/Kessler/Dak/Hogan/Hackenberg/lynch/Goff/Sudfield.... if all of those QB's are gone take cardale but not before then. Also the logic you are using is that because it is unlikely to work out anyway fuck it get the big guy who has shown he can hand it to zeke real good?

  • Because we need 6 qbs on roster? Mccown,manziel,shaw,davis,wentz,jones?

  • Because we need 6 qbs on roster? Mccown,manziel,shaw,davis,wentz,jones?

    @cainedesoulis said:

    Because we need 6 qbs on roster? Mccown,manziel,shaw,davis,wentz,jones?

    No. That's why I said trade Manziel, release Shaw and Davis.

    Your reading comprehension is fantastic.

  • Wentz/cook/Kessler/Dak/Hogan/Hackenberg/lynch/Goff/Sudfield.... if all of those QB's are gone take cardale but not before then. Also the logic you are using is that because it is unlikely to work out anyway fuck it get the big guy who has shown he can hand it to zeke real good?

    @cainedesoulis said:

    Wentz/cook/Kessler/Dak/Hogan/Hackenberg/lynch/Goff/Sudfield.... if all of those QB's are gone take cardale but not before then. Also the logic you are using is that because it is unlikely to work out anyway fuck it get the big guy who has shown he can hand it to zeke real good?

    No, my reasoning is more like "take a flier on the guy who has perfect measurables, a cannon arm, a national championship, and who passed for over 240 yards against Wisconsin, Alabama and Oregon each." There's at least a proof of concept there - as a project QB, that's more than most.

  • @cainedesoulis said:

    Wentz/cook/Kessler/Dak/Hogan/Hackenberg/lynch/Goff/Sudfield.... if all of those QB's are gone take cardale but not before then. Also the logic you are using is that because it is unlikely to work out anyway fuck it get the big guy who has shown he can hand it to zeke real good?

    No, my reasoning is more like "take a flier on the guy who has perfect measurables, a cannon arm, a national championship, and who passed for over 240 yards against Wisconsin, Alabama and Oregon each." There's at least a proof of concept there - as a project QB, that's more than most.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    No, my reasoning is more like "take a flier on the guy who has perfect measurables, a cannon arm, a national championship, and who passed for over 240 yards against Wisconsin, Alabama and Oregon each." There's at least a proof of concept there - as a project QB, that's more than most.

    In the 4th I'm completely in agreement. I could be talked into taking him in the 3rd...but I prefer the 4th.

  • Somebody will waste a pick i really hope it isn't us.

  • Somebody will waste a pick i really hope it isn't us.

    @cainedesoulis said:

    Somebody will waste a pick i really hope it isn't us.

    You're missing the point. If its a pick in the 4th round, is it really a waste? He probably won't pan out...but neither no 95% of other 4th round picks.

  • EVERY pick has potential franchise changing implications Especially at QB. We reap what we sow here and i can't think of a better waste than drafting on size and what 4 goodish games? Some of the worst decision making i have seen at an osu qb and thats the guy your enamored with. Lol i hope the FO don't think this way

  • EVERY pick has potential franchise changing implications Especially at QB. We reap what we sow here and i can't think of a better waste than drafting on size and what 4 goodish games? Some of the worst decision making i have seen at an osu qb and thats the guy your enamored with. Lol i hope the FO don't think this way

    @cainedesoulis said:

    EVERY pick has potential franchise changing implications Especially at QB. We reap what we sow here and i can't think of a better waste than drafting on size and what 4 goodish games? Some of the worst decision making i have seen at an osu qb and thats the guy your enamored with. Lol i hope the FO don't think this way

    Those four goodish games led to a national championship and he's what? 12-0 as the starting qb for osu. Don't forget about that.

  • It's pretty clear i'm not going to change anyones mind with relevant facts so let's agree to disagree.

    Just to point out ZERO QB's recruited by urban meyer have succeeded at the nfl level.

  • It's pretty clear i'm not going to change anyones mind with relevant facts so let's agree to disagree.

    Just to point out ZERO QB's recruited by urban meyer have succeeded at the nfl level.

    @cainedesoulis said:

    It's pretty clear i'm not going to change anyones mind with relevant facts so let's agree to disagree.

    Just to point out ZERO QB's recruited by urban meyer have succeeded at the nfl level.

    Here's a fact for you dumbass Cardale Jones wasn't recruited by Urban Myers. 😳

  • It's pretty clear i'm not going to change anyones mind with relevant facts so let's agree to disagree.

    Just to point out ZERO QB's recruited by urban meyer have succeeded at the nfl level.

    @cainedesoulis said:

    It's pretty clear i'm not going to change anyones mind with relevant facts so let's agree to disagree.

    Just to point out ZERO QB's recruited by urban meyer have succeeded at the nfl level.

    I'm still waiting for relevant facts. When you can present them, I'm sure we'd be more inclined to listen.

    But, as of now, you're just some nobody with a dumbass opinion and nothing to back it up.

  • You realise your asking us to draft a qb with 270 career attempts? Thanks for validation lol

    @cainedesoulis said:

    You realise your asking us to draft a qb with 270 career attempts? Thanks for validation lol

    Um, it's not like drafting a guy from a D III school

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    You realize that the staying power of NFL draft picks drops significantly after the third round? You realize that only 5-8% of fourth round picks earn and maintain starting jobs, compared to about 25-30% of third rounders? You realize that, despite how much you don't like Jones, he's excelled on the biggest stage in college football - something no other QB prospect has done in this draft.

    A QB needy team spending a fourth round pick on a 6'5" national champion QB is a no-fucking-brainer, regardless of his number of completions or relative inexperience. The potential benefit far outweighs the risk.

    But I do see your point. Taking a flier on Cardale would be detrimental to us, because we could be missing out on guys like:

    Vince Mayle

    Pierre Desir

    James Michael-Johnson

    Owen Marecic

    Kaluka Maiava

    Beau Bell

    Martin Rucker

    Isaac Sowells

    Leon Williams

    Not like anyone here is asking the Browns to draft Cardale in the first.

    @cainedesoulis said:

    Wentz/cook/Kessler/Dak/Hogan/Hackenberg/lynch/Goff/Sudfield.... if all of those QB's are gone take cardale but not before then. Also the logic you are using is that because it is unlikely to work out anyway fuck it get the big guy who has shown he can hand it to zeke real good?

    Nah- I'm seeing a guy who can throw the ball out of the stadium, if necessary. Like effortless 50 yard bombs. Apparently that doesn't count in your book. IMHO he has as much arm as Rothlisberger, and that's plenty good enough-

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    No, my reasoning is more like "take a flier on the guy who has perfect measurables, a cannon arm, a national championship, and who passed for over 240 yards against Wisconsin, Alabama and Oregon each." There's at least a proof of concept there - as a project QB, that's more than most.

    Exactly. I'd suggest our detractor look at qbs drafted in the 4th round, and compare measurables. LOL McCoy got drafted in the third, with all those fancy stats, and he's barely hanging on in the NFL.

  • except game stats of course and the fact he has little experience. lemme ask how many passing yards did the heralded top 100 Prospect QB throw for today? 100? 200? couple of touchdowns? ran another in? lol the shitty part is his fiesta bowl performance is one of his best performances all year 🙂

  • except game stats of course and the fact he has little experience. lemme ask how many passing yards did the heralded top 100 Prospect QB throw for today? 100? 200? couple of touchdowns? ran another in? lol the shitty part is his fiesta bowl performance is one of his best performances all year 🙂

    @cainedesoulis said:

    except game stats of course and the fact he has little experience. lemme ask how many passing yards did the heralded top 100 Prospect QB throw for today? 100? 200? couple of touchdowns? ran another in? lol the shitty part is his fiesta bowl performance is one of his best performances all year 🙂

    My bad.

    I just realized you're fucking Retarded.

    Sorry for the confusion.

  • except game stats of course and the fact he has little experience. lemme ask how many passing yards did the heralded top 100 Prospect QB throw for today? 100? 200? couple of touchdowns? ran another in? lol the shitty part is his fiesta bowl performance is one of his best performances all year 🙂

    @cainedesoulis said:

    except game stats of course and the fact he has little experience. lemme ask how many passing yards did the heralded top 100 Prospect QB throw for today? 100? 200? couple of touchdowns? ran another in? lol the shitty part is his fiesta bowl performance is one of his best performances all year 🙂

    My bad.

    I just realized you're fucking Retarded.

    Sorry for the confusion.