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  • Trade Johnny for whatever we can get. Take Wentz in the second. Cardale in the fourth. Release Shaw. Release Davis or roll into the season with four QB's. Lord knows they'll all get a shot to play at some point.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Trade Johnny for whatever we can get. Take Wentz in the second. Cardale in the fourth. Release Shaw. Release Davis or roll into the season with four QB's. Lord knows they'll all get a shot to play at some point.

    You might be a little bit light on quarterbacks. Probably you should take Lynnch at #2.

    Also keep Johnny and rotate the quarterbacks every other play.

    WSS

  • Johnny Football....Braxton Miller.....and Terrell Pryor.....lined up in the just invented ....WildDawg triple option wishbone......!!!!..

    It'll revolutionize the game!!!...

    RGIII and Vick will be the extra extra back ups.....and TEBOWs my full back!!!

  • CDS is simply devaluing the context of Cardale's 270 completions. Not an unreasonable position... but I, like TCPO, think he is overvaluing a 4th round pick.

    There are better QB prospects in this draft and they will go earlier than Cardale, but when the 2nd half of Day 2 come along Mr. Jones is going to look like a pretty good value pick. Certainly a lot better than Hackenburg in my eyes...

    @wargograw said:

    He'll be reunited with Tom Herman in College Station next year. Save all this talk for January 2016.

    So UH is now TAMU's official HC prep school? The guy seemed pretty adamant about staying a UH for a while and rebuilding their long derelict program there.

    @tour2ma said:

    CDS is simply devaluing the context of Cardale's 270 completions. Not an unreasonable position... but I, like TCPO, think he is overvaluing a 4th round pick.

    There are better QB prospects in this draft and they will go earlier than Cardale, but when the 2nd half of Day 2 come along Mr. Jones is going to look like a pretty good value pick. Certainly a lot better than Hackenburg in my eyes...

    So UH is now TAMU's official HC prep school? The guy seemed pretty adamant about staying a UH for a while and rebuilding their long derelict program there.

    He won't be there a year from now. Book that. A&M, Texas, or LSU bound.

  • VesnaKociper said:

    I always believe that you can really judge a player on how he performs in big games. Quinn sucked in every big game he played. I didn't see the game, but I am guessing Paxton Lynch didn't do well against Auburn.

    I would take this kid #1, ahead of Lynch.

    Lynch was horrible against a mediocre Auburn team. He threw for just over 100 yards and no TDs!

    Cardale could be another Big Ben. He's over 6'4' 250lbs and has a cannon arm. He's hard to bring down. Remember the National Championship against Oregon. He's also clutch, poised, athletic and has what it takes to be an NFL QB franchise.

    Draft Bosa, Wide receiver, C.Jones please. He will be great in a couple years! Do not let the Steelers get him!

  • You realise your asking us to draft a qb with 270 career attempts? Thanks for validation lol

    @cainedesoulis said:

    You realise your asking us to draft a qb with 270 career attempts? Thanks for validation lol

    lol. Sure. Gotta draft that practice squad QB. Who needs a RB , WR , LB or DB who could play right away.
  • @cainedesoulis said:

    You realise your asking us to draft a qb with 270 career attempts? Thanks for validation lol

    lol. Sure. Gotta draft that practice squad QB. Who needs a RB , WR , LB or DB who could play right away.

    @furious-styles said:

    lol. Sure. Gotta draft that practice squad QB. Who needs a RB , WR , LB or DB who could play right away.

    Which fourth round RB, WR, LB and DB would you pick that would start right away?

  • Jones will never make it in the NFL... IMHO

  • @tour2ma said:

    CDS is simply devaluing the context of Cardale's 270 completions. Not an unreasonable position... but I, like TCPO, think he is overvaluing a 4th round pick.

    There are better QB prospects in this draft and they will go earlier than Cardale, but when the 2nd half of Day 2 come along Mr. Jones is going to look like a pretty good value pick. Certainly a lot better than Hackenburg in my eyes...

    So UH is now TAMU's official HC prep school? The guy seemed pretty adamant about staying a UH for a while and rebuilding their long derelict program there.

    He won't be there a year from now. Book that. A&M, Texas, or LSU bound.

    @wargograw said:

    He won't be there a year from now. Book that. A&M, Texas, or LSU bound.

    Herman would rather move up to a Big Ten school if he were to leave Houston. More better QBs.

  • @wargograw said:

    He won't be there a year from now. Book that. A&M, Texas, or LSU bound.

    Herman would rather move up to a Big Ten school if he were to leave Houston. More better QBs.

    @the-gipper said:

    Herman would rather move up to a Big Ten school if he were to leave Houston. More better QBs.

    I could see him staying at Houston if they were to move up to the Big 12.

    He has a chance to build something from scratch and make that program completely his.

  • @wargograw said:

    He won't be there a year from now. Book that. A&M, Texas, or LSU bound.

    Herman would rather move up to a Big Ten school if he were to leave Houston. More better QBs.

    @the-gipper said:

    Herman would rather move up to a Big Ten school if he were to leave Houston. More better QBs.

    Source?

  • @the-gipper said:

    Herman would rather move up to a Big Ten school if he were to leave Houston. More better QBs.

    Source?

    @wargograw said:

    Source?

    My gut. He's an Ohio guy....but, of course, maybe you are right. Most SEC teams hire Ohio guys for their HCs.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Herman would rather move up to a Big Ten school if he were to leave Houston. More better QBs.

    I could see him staying at Houston if they were to move up to the Big 12.

    He has a chance to build something from scratch and make that program completely his.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    I could see him staying at Houston if they were to move up to the Big 12.

    He has a chance to build something from scratch and make that program completely his.

    That's the feeling I have gotten built upon the deal he got with UH to upgrade all of their football facilities. Just seems like he wants to see that through...

  • ... and if failing for Cardaling was the plan... then we kinda went overboard.

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    I could see him staying at Houston if they were to move up to the Big 12.

    He has a chance to build something from scratch and make that program completely his.

    That's the feeling I have gotten built upon the deal he got with UH to upgrade all of their football facilities. Just seems like he wants to see that through...

    @tour2ma said:

    That's the feeling I have gotten built upon the deal he got with UH to upgrade all of their football facilities. Just seems like he wants to see that through...

    Yeah, it seems like he wants Houston to be his baby. I don't fault him for that at all, I would do the exact same.

    If he can turn UH into a perennial contender, he'll never have to leave. That Texas oil money will come out of the woodwork and he'll be getting beaucoup booster bucks.

  • ... and if failing for Cardaling was the plan... then we kinda went overboard.

    @tour2ma said:

    ... and if failing for Cardaling was the plan... then we kinda went overboard.

    "Arney never leave 'em short."

    -anonymous

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    I could see him staying at Houston if they were to move up to the Big 12.

    He has a chance to build something from scratch and make that program completely his.

    That's the feeling I have gotten built upon the deal he got with UH to upgrade all of their football facilities. Just seems like he wants to see that through...

    @tour2ma said:

    That's the feeling I have gotten built upon the deal he got with UH to upgrade all of their football facilities. Just seems like he wants to see that through...

    Or he wants to leave a nice little legacy for his successor.

  • @wargograw said:

    Source?

    My gut. He's an Ohio guy....but, of course, maybe you are right. Most SEC teams hire Ohio guys for their HCs.

    @the-gipper said:

    My gut. He's an Ohio guy....but, of course, maybe you are right. Most SEC teams hire Ohio guys for their HCs.

    He was born there but isn't really an Ohio guy per se.

  • @tour2ma said:

    That's the feeling I have gotten built upon the deal he got with UH to upgrade all of their football facilities. Just seems like he wants to see that through...

    Yeah, it seems like he wants Houston to be his baby. I don't fault him for that at all, I would do the exact same.

    If he can turn UH into a perennial contender, he'll never have to leave. That Texas oil money will come out of the woodwork and he'll be getting beaucoup booster bucks.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Yeah, it seems like he wants Houston to be his baby. I don't fault him for that at all, I would do the exact same.

    If he can turn UH into a perennial contender, he'll never have to leave. That Texas oil money will come out of the woodwork and he'll be getting beaucoup booster bucks.

    UH will always fall dreadfully short of matching bucks with A&M and Texas.

  • @tour2ma said:

    That's the feeling I have gotten built upon the deal he got with UH to upgrade all of their football facilities. Just seems like he wants to see that through...

    Yeah, it seems like he wants Houston to be his baby. I don't fault him for that at all, I would do the exact same.

    If he can turn UH into a perennial contender, he'll never have to leave. That Texas oil money will come out of the woodwork and he'll be getting beaucoup booster bucks.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    If he can turn UH into a perennial contender, he'll never have to leave. That Texas oil money will come out of the woodwork and he'll be getting beaucoup booster bucks.

    People forget there was a time in the old SWC Bill Yeoman's Veer ran the Cougs to national prominence for a decade of top 20 rankings. No small feat for what was essentially a commuter school.

    FUN FACT:

    U of H was originally established as a Junior College by the Houston Independent School District to fill an affordable, continuing Ed gap in the area. This was the basis for the less than complementary term to which the school was referred, Cougar High.

    U of H Grads, including my wife, hate that name.

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Yeah, it seems like he wants Houston to be his baby. I don't fault him for that at all, I would do the exact same.

    If he can turn UH into a perennial contender, he'll never have to leave. That Texas oil money will come out of the woodwork and he'll be getting beaucoup booster bucks.

    UH will always fall dreadfully short of matching bucks with A&M and Texas.

    @wargograw said:

    UH will always fall dreadfully short of matching bucks with A&M and Texas.

    Everything falls dreadfully short of UT...A&M included.

    But Texas money is Texas money, and there's sure to be more than a few new boosters that will gladly throw money at UH if they hit the playoffs next year.

    I can't speak for Herman, but I would much rather be known as the guy who brought Houston back than just some guy in a line of successful A&M coaches.

    Their AD knows how to build programs from nothing, it's why he's there. He was the AD that helped turned Coastal Carolina football from a literal nothing program into an FBS school in only a few years. He also rapidly expanded other sports as well - their baseball team is consistently nationally ranked and was one game away from being in the CWS finals (fuck you, Gamecocks).

    Under Yurachek, the football stadium capacity expanded almost 300%. Baseball expanded 900%. Basketball 300%.

    Granted, we're talking a difference of apples and oranges, but given the fact that Coastal Carolina was just a satellite campus for USC not too long ago and that they didn't even have a football team until 2002, it's still impressive. Yurachek builds programs from nothing into something, and that's what he's doing at UH. UH will never have the booster money of Texas, but it could very well start going toe-to-toe with the big dogs of the Big 12 every year and not blinking an eye.

    If I'm Herman, that sounds massively appealing to me.