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Fail for Cardale revisited.

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  • @wargograw said:

    He won't be there a year from now. Book that. A&M, Texas, or LSU bound.

    Herman would rather move up to a Big Ten school if he were to leave Houston. More better QBs.

    @the-gipper said:

    Herman would rather move up to a Big Ten school if he were to leave Houston. More better QBs.

    Source?

  • @the-gipper said:

    Herman would rather move up to a Big Ten school if he were to leave Houston. More better QBs.

    Source?

    @wargograw said:

    Source?

    My gut. He's an Ohio guy....but, of course, maybe you are right. Most SEC teams hire Ohio guys for their HCs.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Herman would rather move up to a Big Ten school if he were to leave Houston. More better QBs.

    I could see him staying at Houston if they were to move up to the Big 12.

    He has a chance to build something from scratch and make that program completely his.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    I could see him staying at Houston if they were to move up to the Big 12.

    He has a chance to build something from scratch and make that program completely his.

    That's the feeling I have gotten built upon the deal he got with UH to upgrade all of their football facilities. Just seems like he wants to see that through...

  • ... and if failing for Cardaling was the plan... then we kinda went overboard.

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    I could see him staying at Houston if they were to move up to the Big 12.

    He has a chance to build something from scratch and make that program completely his.

    That's the feeling I have gotten built upon the deal he got with UH to upgrade all of their football facilities. Just seems like he wants to see that through...

    @tour2ma said:

    That's the feeling I have gotten built upon the deal he got with UH to upgrade all of their football facilities. Just seems like he wants to see that through...

    Yeah, it seems like he wants Houston to be his baby. I don't fault him for that at all, I would do the exact same.

    If he can turn UH into a perennial contender, he'll never have to leave. That Texas oil money will come out of the woodwork and he'll be getting beaucoup booster bucks.

  • ... and if failing for Cardaling was the plan... then we kinda went overboard.

    @tour2ma said:

    ... and if failing for Cardaling was the plan... then we kinda went overboard.

    "Arney never leave 'em short."

    -anonymous

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    I could see him staying at Houston if they were to move up to the Big 12.

    He has a chance to build something from scratch and make that program completely his.

    That's the feeling I have gotten built upon the deal he got with UH to upgrade all of their football facilities. Just seems like he wants to see that through...

    @tour2ma said:

    That's the feeling I have gotten built upon the deal he got with UH to upgrade all of their football facilities. Just seems like he wants to see that through...

    Or he wants to leave a nice little legacy for his successor.

  • @wargograw said:

    Source?

    My gut. He's an Ohio guy....but, of course, maybe you are right. Most SEC teams hire Ohio guys for their HCs.

    @the-gipper said:

    My gut. He's an Ohio guy....but, of course, maybe you are right. Most SEC teams hire Ohio guys for their HCs.

    He was born there but isn't really an Ohio guy per se.

  • @tour2ma said:

    That's the feeling I have gotten built upon the deal he got with UH to upgrade all of their football facilities. Just seems like he wants to see that through...

    Yeah, it seems like he wants Houston to be his baby. I don't fault him for that at all, I would do the exact same.

    If he can turn UH into a perennial contender, he'll never have to leave. That Texas oil money will come out of the woodwork and he'll be getting beaucoup booster bucks.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Yeah, it seems like he wants Houston to be his baby. I don't fault him for that at all, I would do the exact same.

    If he can turn UH into a perennial contender, he'll never have to leave. That Texas oil money will come out of the woodwork and he'll be getting beaucoup booster bucks.

    UH will always fall dreadfully short of matching bucks with A&M and Texas.

  • @tour2ma said:

    That's the feeling I have gotten built upon the deal he got with UH to upgrade all of their football facilities. Just seems like he wants to see that through...

    Yeah, it seems like he wants Houston to be his baby. I don't fault him for that at all, I would do the exact same.

    If he can turn UH into a perennial contender, he'll never have to leave. That Texas oil money will come out of the woodwork and he'll be getting beaucoup booster bucks.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    If he can turn UH into a perennial contender, he'll never have to leave. That Texas oil money will come out of the woodwork and he'll be getting beaucoup booster bucks.

    People forget there was a time in the old SWC Bill Yeoman's Veer ran the Cougs to national prominence for a decade of top 20 rankings. No small feat for what was essentially a commuter school.

    FUN FACT:

    U of H was originally established as a Junior College by the Houston Independent School District to fill an affordable, continuing Ed gap in the area. This was the basis for the less than complementary term to which the school was referred, Cougar High.

    U of H Grads, including my wife, hate that name.

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Yeah, it seems like he wants Houston to be his baby. I don't fault him for that at all, I would do the exact same.

    If he can turn UH into a perennial contender, he'll never have to leave. That Texas oil money will come out of the woodwork and he'll be getting beaucoup booster bucks.

    UH will always fall dreadfully short of matching bucks with A&M and Texas.

    @wargograw said:

    UH will always fall dreadfully short of matching bucks with A&M and Texas.

    Everything falls dreadfully short of UT...A&M included.

    But Texas money is Texas money, and there's sure to be more than a few new boosters that will gladly throw money at UH if they hit the playoffs next year.

    I can't speak for Herman, but I would much rather be known as the guy who brought Houston back than just some guy in a line of successful A&M coaches.

    Their AD knows how to build programs from nothing, it's why he's there. He was the AD that helped turned Coastal Carolina football from a literal nothing program into an FBS school in only a few years. He also rapidly expanded other sports as well - their baseball team is consistently nationally ranked and was one game away from being in the CWS finals (fuck you, Gamecocks).

    Under Yurachek, the football stadium capacity expanded almost 300%. Baseball expanded 900%. Basketball 300%.

    Granted, we're talking a difference of apples and oranges, but given the fact that Coastal Carolina was just a satellite campus for USC not too long ago and that they didn't even have a football team until 2002, it's still impressive. Yurachek builds programs from nothing into something, and that's what he's doing at UH. UH will never have the booster money of Texas, but it could very well start going toe-to-toe with the big dogs of the Big 12 every year and not blinking an eye.

    If I'm Herman, that sounds massively appealing to me.

  • @the-gipper said:

    My gut. He's an Ohio guy....but, of course, maybe you are right. Most SEC teams hire Ohio guys for their HCs.

    He was born there but isn't really an Ohio guy per se.

    @wargograw said:

    He was born there but isn't really an Ohio guy per se.

    Born and raised....but went to school in Calif. Has had coaching gigs in Iowa, and Ohio and Texas where he has been an asst. at like every school in the state, including Texas, Texas St., Rice, Sam Houston St., Texas Lutheran.

    He would be a stronger candidate to replace Charlie Strong if things don't go better at that school.

    But he seems to like Houston area.....he has now coached at at least 3-4 schools in the Houston area: Houston, Rice, Sam Houston St. Texas Lutheran. Maybe that is why he is committed to UH.

  • I wonder how much of his success can be contributed to Tom Hermann. The whole Buckeye offense suffered when ahermann left. I would take Cardale in the second round. Let Josh McCown mentor him and be confident in my decision.

  • Thread bookmarked for when he leaves in less than a year (or possibly this week). Houston won't be any more than a TCU or Baylor at best. Herman could possibly be the best coach in the 40-50 group. 50-60 has Urban. 60-70 has Saban. Yeah, that guy's gonna stay at Houston. Come on.

  • @wargograw said:

    He was born there but isn't really an Ohio guy per se.

    Born and raised....but went to school in Calif. Has had coaching gigs in Iowa, and Ohio and Texas where he has been an asst. at like every school in the state, including Texas, Texas St., Rice, Sam Houston St., Texas Lutheran.

    He would be a stronger candidate to replace Charlie Strong if things don't go better at that school.

    But he seems to like Houston area.....he has now coached at at least 3-4 schools in the Houston area: Houston, Rice, Sam Houston St. Texas Lutheran. Maybe that is why he is committed to UH.

    @the-gipper said:

    Born and raised....but went to school in Calif. Has had coaching gigs in Iowa, and Ohio and Texas where he has been an asst. at like every school in the state, including Texas, Texas St., Rice, Sam Houston St., Texas Lutheran.

    He would be a stronger candidate to replace Charlie Strong if things don't go better at that school.

    But he seems to like Houston area.....he has now coached at at least 3-4 schools in the Houston area: Houston, Rice, Sam Houston St. Texas Lutheran. Maybe that is why he is committed to UH.

    I thought I read it was just born. Raised in Cali.

  • Thread bookmarked for when he leaves in less than a year (or possibly this week). Houston won't be any more than a TCU or Baylor at best. Herman could possibly be the best coach in the 40-50 group. 50-60 has Urban. 60-70 has Saban. Yeah, that guy's gonna stay at Houston. Come on.

    @wargograw said:

    Thread bookmarked for when he leaves in less than a year (or possibly this week). Houston won't be any more than a TCU or Baylor at best. Herman could possibly be the best coach in the 40-50 group. 50-60 has Urban. 60-70 has Saban. Yeah, that guy's gonna stay at Houston. Come on.

    It sounds like you're trying to convince yourself.

  • @furious-styles said:

    lol. Sure. Gotta draft that practice squad QB. Who needs a RB , WR , LB or DB who could play right away.

    Which fourth round RB, WR, LB and DB would you pick that would start right away?

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Which fourth round RB, WR, LB and DB would you pick that would start right away?

    Are you implying that 4th round starters are not found in every draft ? The good teams find them. The bad teams don't. Bengals WR Marvin Jones was a 4th round pick. Would you rather have Jones or a practice squad player ?
  • I wonder how much of his success can be contributed to Tom Hermann. The whole Buckeye offense suffered when ahermann left. I would take Cardale in the second round. Let Josh McCown mentor him and be confident in my decision.

    @opal312 said:

    I wonder how much of his success can be contributed to Tom Hermann. The whole Buckeye offense suffered when ahermann left. I would take Cardale in the second round. Let Josh McCown mentor him and be confident in my decision.

    A second round pick on a QB who came out early after not starting on his college team ?

    "we aint come to play SCHOOL classes are pointless."

    Free agent/final pick, ok

  • @wargograw said:

    Thread bookmarked for when he leaves in less than a year (or possibly this week). Houston won't be any more than a TCU or Baylor at best. Herman could possibly be the best coach in the 40-50 group. 50-60 has Urban. 60-70 has Saban. Yeah, that guy's gonna stay at Houston. Come on.

    It sounds like you're trying to convince yourself.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    It sounds like you're trying to convince yourself.

    One needs no convincing that Cougar High does not have the tools for sustainable success at the top levels, CCU AD or not.

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Which fourth round RB, WR, LB and DB would you pick that would start right away?

    Are you implying that 4th round starters are not found in every draft ? The good teams find them. The bad teams don't. Bengals WR Marvin Jones was a 4th round pick. Would you rather have Jones or a practice squad player ?

    @furious-styles said:

    Are you implying that 4th round starters are not found in every draft ? The good teams find them. The bad teams don't. Bengals WR Marvin Jones was a 4th round pick. Would you rather have Jones or a practice squad player ?

    No, you're implying that it's seemingly easy to find them, so I'm asking you which exact ones you'd pick. Names.

    Shit or get off the pot.