Pettine & Farmer fired what's next?
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Farmer and Pettine are gonna be looking pretty good....in the rear view mirror.....bank it!
Cause where will they find a GM who doesnt get to make any choices and wants to answer to a 30 something contract lawyer????........
Others are posting that we are just going to love his choice of GM. LOL I keep getting this sick feeling it will be Bernie.
Jimmy obviously doesn't understand the he and his "non traditional" structure are the problem. Its a shame he wasn't convicted and removed prior to this season.
Others are posting that we are just going to love his choice of GM. LOL I keep getting this sick feeling it will be Bernie.
Jimmy obviously doesn't understand the he and his "non traditional" structure are the problem. Its a shame he wasn't convicted and removed prior to this season.
The structure is not the issue...... who gives a shit about the structure. There are 32 NFL teams and 32 different structures.
It is the competence of the people that hold the positions....regardless of that structure.
This structure has been used here before: Holmgrem: VP of Football operations, Heckert GM...Shurmur or whoever HC.
Nothing much different here except the names and the background of Holmgrem vs. Brown. And we know that the choice of the SB winning coach/GM was a disaster. So....we now have an analytics guy in place. It can't be any worse.
Play like a Sashi!
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I'm a fan of analytics being used as a tool to help make the final decision and I guess that's what they mean by him having a say in the final roster
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I'm a fan of analytics being used as a tool to help make the final decision and I guess that's what they mean by him having a say in the final roster
I'm a fan of analytics being used as a tool to help make the final decision and I guess that's what they mean by him having a say in the final roster
I'm a fan of chickens, especially experienced chickens, having final say on all draft picks.
Between analytics and the chickens, what could possibly go wrong?
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The guys on NFL Network are killing us right now. To sum it up: "Who in their right mind would want to go to Cleveland where the head coach reports to the owner, and the GM reports to a guy with no football experience".
Also, they believe with the way the Browns have structured things, that other teams "can deny permission for their own guys to interview for the GM job"
HAPPY NEW YEAR!!
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I think we should wait and see what happens before we condemn people. I'm not aware of seeing any job descriptions for the role of VP so we only have what Haslam said in his press conference. I'd be amazed if our new VP would over rule an experienced HC&GM If they were keen on certain players. Just presuming of course as I would have expected amiable communication between front office and coaching staff too.
I'm interested to see who we appoint and then how they gel. As Gipper says it's actually about competence not structures. Competent, effective people make things work and are dynamic and positive- generally. There should also be good communication and flexibility between the decision makers.
As London Dawg says, there is nothing wrong with someone who is good at analysis, so lets wait and see.
I know you guys have seen this all before, but at some point it's going to turn around.
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The guys on NFL Network are killing us right now. To sum it up: "Who in their right mind would want to go to Cleveland where the head coach reports to the owner, and the GM reports to a guy with no football experience".
Also, they believe with the way the Browns have structured things, that other teams "can deny permission for their own guys to interview for the GM job"
HAPPY NEW YEAR!!
The guys on NFL Network are killing us right now. To sum it up: "Who in their right mind would want to go to Cleveland where the head coach reports to the owner, and the GM reports to a guy with no football experience".
Also, they believe with the way the Browns have structured things, that other teams "can deny permission for their own guys to interview for the GM job"
HAPPY NEW YEAR!!
The guys on NFL Network may have absolutely no imagination or creativity. They just want to criticise to criticise. They have no clue. Like I said: 32 teams/32 structures.
Talent will out. We have just had poor talent (in the FO...and some on the field).
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As you say Gipper it's all about the people. Appoint the right people in the right places and we move forward. Cut incompetence and blockers/negativity and be positive. Simple formula not always easy to achieve, but Haslam seems determined.
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And if Haslam is determined he will attract equally determined people.
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This is why I kinda like Haslam still. The guy has no idea how to run an NFL team - but at least he's trying and involved.
People say they miss Lerner, Lerner couldn't even care enough to pay attention to anything that was going on in Berea.
Haslam will get it right....eventually. Preferably he gets it right this time around, though. Hiring that firm or whatever is probably a good move for them.
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I'm optimistic that Haslam is trying his best. I'll still be hopeful that we will get a good coach and GM. However, I think we need a chain of command where the coach reports to the GM, and the GM to the owner. Having the GM and coach the same rank didn't work with Farmer and Pettine obviously.
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And if Haslam is determined he will attract equally determined people.
And if Haslam is determined he will attract equally determined people.
Great and the next head coach of the Cleveland Browns is Ricky Bobby. According to Haslam he pisses excellence and that's all we need.
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And let us not forget that the now mighty Bengals had a much sorrier group of players and coaches when Marvin Lewis took over, and he had no HC experience and an owner the NFL considered a laughing stock.
Same could be said of Madden at Raiders, Johnson at Dallas and Gibbs at Washington. All laughing stocks at the time, but were turned around, and excepting the Bengals won SBs?
Gotta believe fellow Dawgs! We bark together and we will bite together!
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"We'll be patient, because we're not going to turn a 3-13 team into a 13-3 team in one year". - Jimmy Haslam
Patience Jimmah?...that lie ranks right up there with "I won't cum in your mouth"!
"We'll be patient, because we're not going to turn a 3-13 team into a 13-3 team in one year". - Jimmy Haslam
Patience Jimmah?...that lie ranks right up there with "I won't cum in your mouth"!
fucking haslem...what a fucking charlatan...fuck....this guy knows jack shit about football...
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"We'll be patient, because we're not going to turn a 3-13 team into a 13-3 team in one year". - Jimmy Haslam
Patience Jimmah?...that lie ranks right up there with "I won't cum in your mouth"!
fucking haslem...what a fucking charlatan...fuck....this guy knows jack shit about football...
fucking haslem...what a fucking charlatan...fuck....this guy knows jack shit about football...
heard on 680 the fan down here in hotlanta that the browns are interested in some fucking defensive coordinator from the lions...cannot remember his name...wonderful, just fucking wonderful...Of course if we hire him, shitlem will say what he said about pettine..."we got our guy"...and all the rah rah board members that like fucklam will rejoice with glee....
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Will this be 5 GMs in 4 years or 4 GMs in 5 years? Haslam sure does seem to suck at being a owner.
Will this be 5 GMs in 4 years or 4 GMs in 5 years? Haslam sure does seem to suck at being a owner.
really? You just figured this out....hey, at least you are on board.
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2 more FO people were fired today.
Bill Kuharic and Morroco Brown were giving their walking papers.
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
This may be a 49ers type exodus. The unfortunate problem is we are a few years removed from the Super Bowl. The thing is a dumpster fire and even the sunshine pumpers can defend this.
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This is why I kinda like Haslam still. The guy has no idea how to run an NFL team - but at least he's trying and involved.
People say they miss Lerner, Lerner couldn't even care enough to pay attention to anything that was going on in Berea.
Haslam will get it right....eventually. Preferably he gets it right this time around, though. Hiring that firm or whatever is probably a good move for them.
This is why I kinda like Haslam still. The guy has no idea how to run an NFL team - but at least he's trying and involved.
People say they miss Lerner, Lerner couldn't even care enough to pay attention to anything that was going on in Berea.
Haslam will get it right....eventually. Preferably he gets it right this time around, though. Hiring that firm or whatever is probably a good move for them.
Has Daniel Snyder got it right yet?
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This is why I kinda like Haslam still. The guy has no idea how to run an NFL team - but at least he's trying and involved.
People say they miss Lerner, Lerner couldn't even care enough to pay attention to anything that was going on in Berea.
Haslam will get it right....eventually. Preferably he gets it right this time around, though. Hiring that firm or whatever is probably a good move for them.
Has Daniel Snyder got it right yet?
Has Daniel Snyder got it right yet?
He's had many more years.
Regardless, Haslam is better than the non-existent Lerner was.
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