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  • I'm a fan of analytics being used as a tool to help make the final decision and I guess that's what they mean by him having a say in the final roster

    @londonbrown said:

    I'm a fan of analytics being used as a tool to help make the final decision and I guess that's what they mean by him having a say in the final roster

    I'm a fan of chickens, especially experienced chickens, having final say on all draft picks.

    Between analytics and the chickens, what could possibly go wrong?

  • The guys on NFL Network are killing us right now. To sum it up: "Who in their right mind would want to go to Cleveland where the head coach reports to the owner, and the GM reports to a guy with no football experience".

    Also, they believe with the way the Browns have structured things, that other teams "can deny permission for their own guys to interview for the GM job"

    HAPPY NEW YEAR!!

  • Im not sure how to post pics properly, so if a mod could fix that would be great. Good summary on the current state of our Browns.

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  • I think we should wait and see what happens before we condemn people. I'm not aware of seeing any job descriptions for the role of VP so we only have what Haslam said in his press conference. I'd be amazed if our new VP would over rule an experienced HC&GM If they were keen on certain players. Just presuming of course as I would have expected amiable communication between front office and coaching staff too.

    I'm interested to see who we appoint and then how they gel. As Gipper says it's actually about competence not structures. Competent, effective people make things work and are dynamic and positive- generally. There should also be good communication and flexibility between the decision makers.

    As London Dawg says, there is nothing wrong with someone who is good at analysis, so lets wait and see.

    I know you guys have seen this all before, but at some point it's going to turn around.

  • The guys on NFL Network are killing us right now. To sum it up: "Who in their right mind would want to go to Cleveland where the head coach reports to the owner, and the GM reports to a guy with no football experience".

    Also, they believe with the way the Browns have structured things, that other teams "can deny permission for their own guys to interview for the GM job"

    HAPPY NEW YEAR!!

    @d-bone said:

    The guys on NFL Network are killing us right now. To sum it up: "Who in their right mind would want to go to Cleveland where the head coach reports to the owner, and the GM reports to a guy with no football experience".

    Also, they believe with the way the Browns have structured things, that other teams "can deny permission for their own guys to interview for the GM job"

    HAPPY NEW YEAR!!

    The guys on NFL Network may have absolutely no imagination or creativity. They just want to criticise to criticise. They have no clue. Like I said: 32 teams/32 structures.

    Talent will out. We have just had poor talent (in the FO...and some on the field).

  • As you say Gipper it's all about the people. Appoint the right people in the right places and we move forward. Cut incompetence and blockers/negativity and be positive. Simple formula not always easy to achieve, but Haslam seems determined.

  • And if Haslam is determined he will attract equally determined people.

  • This is why I kinda like Haslam still. The guy has no idea how to run an NFL team - but at least he's trying and involved.

    People say they miss Lerner, Lerner couldn't even care enough to pay attention to anything that was going on in Berea.

    Haslam will get it right....eventually. Preferably he gets it right this time around, though. Hiring that firm or whatever is probably a good move for them.

  • I'm optimistic that Haslam is trying his best. I'll still be hopeful that we will get a good coach and GM. However, I think we need a chain of command where the coach reports to the GM, and the GM to the owner. Having the GM and coach the same rank didn't work with Farmer and Pettine obviously.

  • And if Haslam is determined he will attract equally determined people.

    @deputydawg said:

    And if Haslam is determined he will attract equally determined people.

    Great and the next head coach of the Cleveland Browns is Ricky Bobby. According to Haslam he pisses excellence and that's all we need.

  • And let us not forget that the now mighty Bengals had a much sorrier group of players and coaches when Marvin Lewis took over, and he had no HC experience and an owner the NFL considered a laughing stock.

    Same could be said of Madden at Raiders, Johnson at Dallas and Gibbs at Washington. All laughing stocks at the time, but were turned around, and excepting the Bengals won SBs?

    Gotta believe fellow Dawgs! We bark together and we will bite together!

  • "We'll be patient, because we're not going to turn a 3-13 team into a 13-3 team in one year". - Jimmy Haslam

    Patience Jimmah?...that lie ranks right up there with "I won't cum in your mouth"!

    @canton-dawg said:

    "We'll be patient, because we're not going to turn a 3-13 team into a 13-3 team in one year". - Jimmy Haslam

    Patience Jimmah?...that lie ranks right up there with "I won't cum in your mouth"!

    fucking haslem...what a fucking charlatan...fuck....this guy knows jack shit about football...

  • @canton-dawg said:

    "We'll be patient, because we're not going to turn a 3-13 team into a 13-3 team in one year". - Jimmy Haslam

    Patience Jimmah?...that lie ranks right up there with "I won't cum in your mouth"!

    fucking haslem...what a fucking charlatan...fuck....this guy knows jack shit about football...

    @browns52 said:

    fucking haslem...what a fucking charlatan...fuck....this guy knows jack shit about football...

    heard on 680 the fan down here in hotlanta that the browns are interested in some fucking defensive coordinator from the lions...cannot remember his name...wonderful, just fucking wonderful...Of course if we hire him, shitlem will say what he said about pettine..."we got our guy"...and all the rah rah board members that like fucklam will rejoice with glee....

  • Will this be 5 GMs in 4 years or 4 GMs in 5 years? Haslam sure does seem to suck at being a owner.

    @flyingfooldoug said:

    Will this be 5 GMs in 4 years or 4 GMs in 5 years? Haslam sure does seem to suck at being a owner.

    really? You just figured this out....hey, at least you are on board.

  • 2 more FO people were fired today.

    Bill Kuharic and Morroco Brown were giving their walking papers.

  • This may be a 49ers type exodus. The unfortunate problem is we are a few years removed from the Super Bowl. The thing is a dumpster fire and even the sunshine pumpers can defend this.

  • This is why I kinda like Haslam still. The guy has no idea how to run an NFL team - but at least he's trying and involved.

    People say they miss Lerner, Lerner couldn't even care enough to pay attention to anything that was going on in Berea.

    Haslam will get it right....eventually. Preferably he gets it right this time around, though. Hiring that firm or whatever is probably a good move for them.

    @bbedward said:

    This is why I kinda like Haslam still. The guy has no idea how to run an NFL team - but at least he's trying and involved.

    People say they miss Lerner, Lerner couldn't even care enough to pay attention to anything that was going on in Berea.

    Haslam will get it right....eventually. Preferably he gets it right this time around, though. Hiring that firm or whatever is probably a good move for them.

    Has Daniel Snyder got it right yet?

  • @bbedward said:

    This is why I kinda like Haslam still. The guy has no idea how to run an NFL team - but at least he's trying and involved.

    People say they miss Lerner, Lerner couldn't even care enough to pay attention to anything that was going on in Berea.

    Haslam will get it right....eventually. Preferably he gets it right this time around, though. Hiring that firm or whatever is probably a good move for them.

    Has Daniel Snyder got it right yet?

    @baconhound said:

    Has Daniel Snyder got it right yet?

    He's had many more years.

    Regardless, Haslam is better than the non-existent Lerner was.

  • @baconhound said:

    Has Daniel Snyder got it right yet?

    He's had many more years.

    Regardless, Haslam is better than the non-existent Lerner was.

    @bbedward said:

    He's had many more years.

    Regardless, Haslam is better than the non-existent Lerner was.

    That's my point. Snyder has had a lot of time to get it right but hasn't.

    Comparing Lerners vs Haslam is like comparing Homeless Guy Shit vs Dog Shit

    I don't know how anyone who watched that clown show of a presser last night could support a single thing that fool says. Two years ago he said the same shit about Pettine and Farmer. He took 30 seconds to say it was his fault and then 20 minutes blaming everyone else. "I'm cautiously optimistic we can bring in a quality coach for the Cleveland Browns", are you fucking serious. He hit the reset button to be cautiously optimistic. For fucks sake he should've had a plan 6 weeks ago. "We aren't going to spend a lot of money in free agency, we're going to build through the draft", you get draft picks every fucking year and their contracts are structured. It's not like you can cut all your veterans and pick 30 players in the 2016 draft. "QB play wasn't the reason we lost this year, it was good but it wasn't terrible, but we do have the second pick". Great your team has no direction and more holes than swish cheese and what are you going to think of adding, that's right, a rookie fucking QB.....FUCK

  • Starting with a franchise QB isn't a bad plan really, especially when there actually is one that'll be available at #2 this year 😉