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A positive article on Sashi Brown

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  • C Clevfan4life

    stop it. We do this every year. Hey this new cunt is really smart, he seems like he's got some real gumption!! Every time. They all turn out to be cunts. The unfounded optimism some browns fans exhibit with each successive regime change....it just flummoxes me. When has the "just throw it at the wall and see if it sticks" approach worked?

    This hire isn't some "steal", like we found some little gem or some bullshit like that. What this is..is.....nobody else wants the job.

    jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on
    #18

    @clevfan4life said:

    stop it. We do this every year. Hey this new cunt is really smart, he seems like he's got some real gumption!! Every time. They all turn out to be cunts. The unfounded optimism some browns fans exhibit with each successive regime change....it just flummoxes me. When has the "just throw it at the wall and see if it sticks" approach worked?

    This hire isn't some "steal", like we found some little gem or some bullshit like that. What this is..is.....nobody else wants the job.

    I really don't think anyone considers this a steal though? No one is bouncing off the walls but this article at least explains the guy wasn't just some suit reading legal documents. Hell, most people on here should admit including me they didn't even know this guy was in the FO yet alone his talent level.

    It's certainly a bit odd but just because a guy has final roster decisions doesn't mean he's a crazy bastard who will not listen to people. How the rest of the staff rounds out will go a long way to how I feel.

    C 1 Reply
  • D BoneD D Bone

    I'd prefer Watson

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #19

    @d-bone said:

    I'd prefer Watson

    lol.. and you'd only need him part time...

    @tiamat63 said:

    So Sashi has been negotiating contracts?

    Can he explain why we didn't bother to resign Buster or Sheard? Especially the latter seeing as how we'd be in need of a pass rusher of his mold soon.

    Hey he landed Bowe didn't he? 😉

    Just bothers me when agents start praising our negotiator...

    But back to his new role... How exactly is he going to break ties between 2 football guys?

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • bbedwardB bbedward

    @clevfan4life said:

    stop it. We do this every year. Hey this new cunt is really smart, he seems like he's got some real gumption!! Every time. They all turn out to be cunts. The unfounded optimism some browns fans exhibit with each successive regime change....it just flummoxes me. When has the "just throw it at the wall and see if it sticks" approach worked?

    This hire isn't some "steal", like we found some little gem or some bullshit like that. What this is..is.....nobody else wants the job.

    What else are we supposed to do?

    C Clevfan4life wrote on
    #20

    @bbedward said:

    What else are we supposed to do?

    That's next level, I hadn't thought that far.

  • DeputyDawgD DeputyDawg wrote on
    #21

    I'm hoping Tour that they will discuss and be sensible and mature about it.

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    Tour2maT 1 Reply
  • jrb12711J jrb12711

    @clevfan4life said:

    stop it. We do this every year. Hey this new cunt is really smart, he seems like he's got some real gumption!! Every time. They all turn out to be cunts. The unfounded optimism some browns fans exhibit with each successive regime change....it just flummoxes me. When has the "just throw it at the wall and see if it sticks" approach worked?

    This hire isn't some "steal", like we found some little gem or some bullshit like that. What this is..is.....nobody else wants the job.

    I really don't think anyone considers this a steal though? No one is bouncing off the walls but this article at least explains the guy wasn't just some suit reading legal documents. Hell, most people on here should admit including me they didn't even know this guy was in the FO yet alone his talent level.

    It's certainly a bit odd but just because a guy has final roster decisions doesn't mean he's a crazy bastard who will not listen to people. How the rest of the staff rounds out will go a long way to how I feel.

    C Clevfan4life wrote on
    #22

    @jrb12711 said:

    I really don't think anyone considers this a steal though? No one is bouncing off the walls but this article at least explains the guy wasn't just some suit reading legal documents. Hell, most people on here should admit including me they didn't even know this guy was in the FO yet alone his talent level.

    It's certainly a bit odd but just because a guy has final roster decisions doesn't mean he's a crazy bastard who will not listen to people. How the rest of the staff rounds out will go a long way to how I feel.

    I just realized myself that this was a hire from within.

  • DeputyDawgD DeputyDawg

    I'm hoping Tour that they will discuss and be sensible and mature about it.

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #23

    @deputydawg said:

    I'm hoping Tour that they will discuss and be sensible and mature about it.

    I hear ya... problem is that if hope was a plan then both Pet and Farmer might still have jobs.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • jiggins7919J jiggins7919 wrote on
    #24

    I wish more people read this article. So many focusing on him having final say on the roster and draft, yet not possessing the requisite skill set or experience to complete the tasks. What really encouraged me was reading that this guy somehow doesn't have an ego. He's obviously uber intelligent, and a brilliant man without an ego is a rare commodity. This tells me that he'll trust his staff and coaches to do what they do best, and he'll trust his scouts and general manager to find the necessary talent. Do I know this will happen? Hell no, nobody knows one way or the other, but to me it's more fun than saying, "We completely screwed the pooch again! We're doomed!"

    Here's another thing guys...Farmer was BAD. And not just bad, he was an arrogant ass clown that couldn't find his Johnson with both hands and a road map. How many starters did he produce in two drafts? How many impact free agents did he acquire? How did he improve our team? Oh, that's right, he didn't. So now we have a new process, and new personnel. Can these men do a WORSE job? I'm sure they could, but I don't see it happening. To me, Farmer was garbage and my Aunt Maurine would be a freaking upgrade (this is the woman that raises goldfish and calls them her children btw)

    So Denver, still want Joe Thomas for a first rounder? Let's go. Goodbye Mingo. Goodbye Bowe. Let's get younger and tougher. Let's lay a foundation in place, and start to build around some young talent. We draft Bosa, or hopefully Jalyn Smith. Our injured young CB comes back healthy and owns. Haden is back to form, as well as K'Waun and Tramon backing us up. Orchard and Shelton make strides, and all the sudden we have some pieces in place. We start McCown next year, with a young draft selection learning all year (Wentz in second round). We support.the team as always, we cheer loudly, and we hope we get it RIGHT. It's time. It's PAST time. Let's go, dammit!

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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @d-bone said:

    I'd prefer Watson

    John

    or Emma?

    D BoneD D Bone wrote on
    #25

    @the-gipper said:

    John

    or Emma?

    IBM (analytics humor)

    The GipperT 1 Reply
  • jiggins7919J jiggins7919

    I wish more people read this article. So many focusing on him having final say on the roster and draft, yet not possessing the requisite skill set or experience to complete the tasks. What really encouraged me was reading that this guy somehow doesn't have an ego. He's obviously uber intelligent, and a brilliant man without an ego is a rare commodity. This tells me that he'll trust his staff and coaches to do what they do best, and he'll trust his scouts and general manager to find the necessary talent. Do I know this will happen? Hell no, nobody knows one way or the other, but to me it's more fun than saying, "We completely screwed the pooch again! We're doomed!"

    Here's another thing guys...Farmer was BAD. And not just bad, he was an arrogant ass clown that couldn't find his Johnson with both hands and a road map. How many starters did he produce in two drafts? How many impact free agents did he acquire? How did he improve our team? Oh, that's right, he didn't. So now we have a new process, and new personnel. Can these men do a WORSE job? I'm sure they could, but I don't see it happening. To me, Farmer was garbage and my Aunt Maurine would be a freaking upgrade (this is the woman that raises goldfish and calls them her children btw)

    So Denver, still want Joe Thomas for a first rounder? Let's go. Goodbye Mingo. Goodbye Bowe. Let's get younger and tougher. Let's lay a foundation in place, and start to build around some young talent. We draft Bosa, or hopefully Jalyn Smith. Our injured young CB comes back healthy and owns. Haden is back to form, as well as K'Waun and Tramon backing us up. Orchard and Shelton make strides, and all the sudden we have some pieces in place. We start McCown next year, with a young draft selection learning all year (Wentz in second round). We support.the team as always, we cheer loudly, and we hope we get it RIGHT. It's time. It's PAST time. Let's go, dammit!

    L LondonBrown wrote on
    #26

    @jiggins7919 said:

    To me, Farmer was garbage and my Aunt Maurine would be a freaking upgrade (this is the woman that raises goldfish and calls them her children btw)

    LMAO

  • D BoneD D Bone

    @the-gipper said:

    John

    or Emma?

    IBM (analytics humor)

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #27

    @d-bone said:

    IBM (analytics humor)

    I'll still take Ken Jennings.

  • miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on
    #28

    sashi brown? sasha cohen? jackie brown?

    sounds like a pole swinger at the chicks with dicks show down in WADSworth.

    RichiswhereR The GipperT C 3 Replies
  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    sashi brown? sasha cohen? jackie brown?

    sounds like a pole swinger at the chicks with dicks show down in WADSworth.

    RichiswhereR Richiswhere wrote on
    #29

    @miktoxic said:

    sashi brown? sasha cohen? jackie brown?

    sounds like a pole swinger at the chicks with dicks show down in WADSworth.

    Why is it that I could picture you having a good laugh while and after you just typed this
    "You see the Rams are still thinking that they are playing Tony Dorsett" -Jim Brown 1978
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  • miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on
    #30

    well given the target of the post, i almost shit myself laughing.

    The GipperT 1 Reply
  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    sashi brown? sasha cohen? jackie brown?

    sounds like a pole swinger at the chicks with dicks show down in WADSworth.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #31

    @miktoxic said:

    sashi brown? sasha cohen? jackie brown?

    sounds like a pole swinger at the chicks with dicks show down in WADSworth.

    There are none of those in Wadsworth....too conservative. You have to go to Akron to find them. Or Dobb's Ferry.

  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    well given the target of the post, i almost shit myself laughing.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #32

    @miktoxic said:

    well given the target of the post, i almost shit myself laughing.

    Be careful about who you laughing at.

  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    sashi brown? sasha cohen? jackie brown?

    sounds like a pole swinger at the chicks with dicks show down in WADSworth.

    C Clevfan4life wrote on
    #33

    @miktoxic said:

    sashi brown? sasha cohen? jackie brown?

    sounds like a pole swinger at the chicks with dicks show down in WADSworth.

    there's a chicks with dicks show in wadsworth? Well go on then mik, tell us moar about how you know this....lmao.

  • C Clevfan4life

    @miktoxic said:

    sashi brown? sasha cohen? jackie brown?

    sounds like a pole swinger at the chicks with dicks show down in WADSworth.

    there's a chicks with dicks show in wadsworth? Well go on then mik, tell us moar about how you know this....lmao.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #34

    @clevfan4life said:

    there's a chicks with dicks show in wadsworth? Well go on then mik, tell us moar about how you know this....lmao.

    Wadsworth Nevada maybe......at least if you go there and don't find one you can head over to Reno and be certain to do so.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wadsworth,_Nevada

  • bbedwardB bbedward

    I actually like Sashi, at least what I know about him.

    10 years in-the-NFL experience and apparently a really smart dude who people seem to know around the NFL (harvard law graduate, etc.) The guy who can make all the numbers work in the cap and such, it's definitely not a bad move.

    Giving him any personnel control may not make as much sense to me, but it's hard to tell how that whole process will work at this point. Combining quality football guys with a guy who's good at football analytics sounds good in theory.

    B browns52 wrote on
    #35

    @bbedward said:

    I actually like Sashi, at least what I know about him.

    10 years in-the-NFL experience and apparently a really smart dude who people seem to know around the NFL (harvard law graduate, etc.) The guy who can make all the numbers work in the cap and such, it's definitely not a bad move.

    Giving him any personnel control may not make as much sense to me, but it's hard to tell how that whole process will work at this point. Combining quality football guys with a guy who's good at football analytics sounds good in theory.

    if you have tivo, hopefully you taped todays show...they had joe banner on and basically what i got out of it was he said that it will be hard for any decent coach to want to get involved the way the browns are going...yes he is analytical and knows nothing about the game. he said he uses stats to determine if players are too old and need to be replaced...that is dangerous. this sounds like money ball and that don't work....this isn't baseball... actually in the end, it did not work for baseball either....

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #36

    It has worked for baseball and it will work even more...

    While the A's have been at the forefront of Sabermetrics, they were also alone for years. So ultimately it was them against the field... and yes, the field held them at bay. But...

    Along came the Boston Red Sox who hired Bill James, Mr. Sabermetrics, in 2002 and three championships followed.

    As many as a third of MLB teams are openly on the metrics train... and quietly use them.

    The field is getting smaller...

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    It has worked for baseball and it will work even more...

    While the A's have been at the forefront of Sabermetrics, they were also alone for years. So ultimately it was them against the field... and yes, the field held them at bay. But...

    Along came the Boston Red Sox who hired Bill James, Mr. Sabermetrics, in 2002 and three championships followed.

    As many as a third of MLB teams are openly on the metrics train... and quietly use them.

    The field is getting smaller...

    Mark OM Mark O wrote on
    #37

    @tour2ma said:

    It has worked for baseball and it will work even more...

    While the A's have been at the forefront of Sabermetrics, they were also alone for years. So ultimately it was them against the field... and yes, the field held them at bay. But...

    Along came the Boston Red Sox who hired Bill James, Mr. Sabermetrics, in 2002 and three championships followed.

    As many as a third of MLB teams are openly on the metrics train... and quietly use them.

    The field is getting smaller...

    And the fact that the A's are competitive each year despite being a small market team with a shittty stadium situation proves that it can work, at least in baseball. Can it work in football, I have no idea but I don't see why not.

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