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  • Thread bookmarked for when he leaves in less than a year (or possibly this week). Houston won't be any more than a TCU or Baylor at best. Herman could possibly be the best coach in the 40-50 group. 50-60 has Urban. 60-70 has Saban. Yeah, that guy's gonna stay at Houston. Come on.

    @wargograw said:

    Thread bookmarked for when he leaves in less than a year (or possibly this week). Houston won't be any more than a TCU or Baylor at best. Herman could possibly be the best coach in the 40-50 group. 50-60 has Urban. 60-70 has Saban. Yeah, that guy's gonna stay at Houston. Come on.

    It sounds like you're trying to convince yourself.

  • @furious-styles said:

    lol. Sure. Gotta draft that practice squad QB. Who needs a RB , WR , LB or DB who could play right away.

    Which fourth round RB, WR, LB and DB would you pick that would start right away?

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Which fourth round RB, WR, LB and DB would you pick that would start right away?

    Are you implying that 4th round starters are not found in every draft ? The good teams find them. The bad teams don't. Bengals WR Marvin Jones was a 4th round pick. Would you rather have Jones or a practice squad player ?
  • I wonder how much of his success can be contributed to Tom Hermann. The whole Buckeye offense suffered when ahermann left. I would take Cardale in the second round. Let Josh McCown mentor him and be confident in my decision.

    @opal312 said:

    I wonder how much of his success can be contributed to Tom Hermann. The whole Buckeye offense suffered when ahermann left. I would take Cardale in the second round. Let Josh McCown mentor him and be confident in my decision.

    A second round pick on a QB who came out early after not starting on his college team ?

    "we aint come to play SCHOOL classes are pointless."

    Free agent/final pick, ok

  • @wargograw said:

    Thread bookmarked for when he leaves in less than a year (or possibly this week). Houston won't be any more than a TCU or Baylor at best. Herman could possibly be the best coach in the 40-50 group. 50-60 has Urban. 60-70 has Saban. Yeah, that guy's gonna stay at Houston. Come on.

    It sounds like you're trying to convince yourself.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    It sounds like you're trying to convince yourself.

    One needs no convincing that Cougar High does not have the tools for sustainable success at the top levels, CCU AD or not.

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Which fourth round RB, WR, LB and DB would you pick that would start right away?

    Are you implying that 4th round starters are not found in every draft ? The good teams find them. The bad teams don't. Bengals WR Marvin Jones was a 4th round pick. Would you rather have Jones or a practice squad player ?

    @furious-styles said:

    Are you implying that 4th round starters are not found in every draft ? The good teams find them. The bad teams don't. Bengals WR Marvin Jones was a 4th round pick. Would you rather have Jones or a practice squad player ?

    No, you're implying that it's seemingly easy to find them, so I'm asking you which exact ones you'd pick. Names.

    Shit or get off the pot.

  • @furious-styles said:

    Are you implying that 4th round starters are not found in every draft ? The good teams find them. The bad teams don't. Bengals WR Marvin Jones was a 4th round pick. Would you rather have Jones or a practice squad player ?

    No, you're implying that it's seemingly easy to find them, so I'm asking you which exact ones you'd pick. Names.

    Shit or get off the pot.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    No, you're implying that it's seemingly easy to find them, so I'm asking you which exact ones you'd pick. Names.

    Shit or get off the pot.

    No. I never said it was easy. I said the good teams find them and the BAD teams don't . If I had an entire department dedicated to scouting and drafting I could be more specific. Some teams can't get first rounders correct. The fourth and later picks that do make it were identified,scouted. then drafted. Browns have misses on multuple first rounders. Using any draft pick on Jones is"drafting like a Brown".
  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    No, you're implying that it's seemingly easy to find them, so I'm asking you which exact ones you'd pick. Names.

    Shit or get off the pot.

    No. I never said it was easy. I said the good teams find them and the BAD teams don't . If I had an entire department dedicated to scouting and drafting I could be more specific. Some teams can't get first rounders correct. The fourth and later picks that do make it were identified,scouted. then drafted. Browns have misses on multuple first rounders. Using any draft pick on Jones is"drafting like a Brown".

    @furious-styles said:

    No. I never said it was easy. I said the good teams find them and the BAD teams don't . If I had an entire department dedicated to scouting and drafting I could be more specific. Some teams can't get first rounders correct. The fourth and later picks that do make it were identified,scouted. then drafted. Browns have misses on multuple first rounders. Using any draft pick on Jones is"drafting like a Brown".

    If you can't even rattle off a list of fourth round guys without an entire scouting department, how is anyone supposed to trust your "analysis" of Jones? I use the term "analysis" very loosely, because there has been absolutely zero analysis so far.

  • @furious-styles said:

    No. I never said it was easy. I said the good teams find them and the BAD teams don't . If I had an entire department dedicated to scouting and drafting I could be more specific. Some teams can't get first rounders correct. The fourth and later picks that do make it were identified,scouted. then drafted. Browns have misses on multuple first rounders. Using any draft pick on Jones is"drafting like a Brown".

    If you can't even rattle off a list of fourth round guys without an entire scouting department, how is anyone supposed to trust your "analysis" of Jones? I use the term "analysis" very loosely, because there has been absolutely zero analysis so far.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    If you can't even rattle off a list of fourth round guys without an entire scouting department, how is anyone supposed to trust your "analysis" of Jones? I use the term "analysis" very loosely, because there has been absolutely zero analysis so far.

    And how am I supposed to trust your judgment when you waxed poetically about benefit of promoting a staffer who was immediatly fired.

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    If you can't even rattle off a list of fourth round guys without an entire scouting department, how is anyone supposed to trust your "analysis" of Jones? I use the term "analysis" very loosely, because there has been absolutely zero analysis so far.

    And how am I supposed to trust your judgment when you waxed poetically about benefit of promoting a staffer who was immediatly fired.

    @furious-styles said:

    And how am I supposed to trust your judgment when you waxed poetically about benefit of promoting a staffer who was immediatly fired.

    The two sentences that I posted about how we should put a football guy as GM? If that's waxing poetically, then I guess I need to become a writer.

    The benefit remains the same, our GM needs to be a "football guy" to counterbalance the analytical prowess of our VPOFO and new CSO. Not the other way around. We saw what happens when you take a "football guy" and put him in charge of the whole shebang - he carts his fat ass into camp, does nothing but collect a paycheck, and then leaves.

  • Thread bookmarked for when he leaves in less than a year (or possibly this week). Houston won't be any more than a TCU or Baylor at best. Herman could possibly be the best coach in the 40-50 group. 50-60 has Urban. 60-70 has Saban. Yeah, that guy's gonna stay at Houston. Come on.

    @wargograw said:

    Thread bookmarked for when he leaves in less than a year (or possibly this week). Houston won't be any more than a TCU or Baylor at best. Herman could possibly be the best coach in the 40-50 group. 50-60 has Urban. 60-70 has Saban. Yeah, that guy's gonna stay at Houston. Come on.

    TCU and Baylor are better programs at this point than Tamu.

    Have you not seen the rankings for like the past decade?

    And now you are going to have a successful Houston program in that state to try to keep the Houston area kids at home.

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    It sounds like you're trying to convince yourself.

    One needs no convincing that Cougar High does not have the tools for sustainable success at the top levels, CCU AD or not.

    @wargograw said:

    One needs no convincing that Cougar High does not have the tools for sustainable success at the top levels, CCU AD or not.

    I smell fear in your heart. Houston's football program will surpass many in the state in Herman's long tenure.

  • @wargograw said:

    Thread bookmarked for when he leaves in less than a year (or possibly this week). Houston won't be any more than a TCU or Baylor at best. Herman could possibly be the best coach in the 40-50 group. 50-60 has Urban. 60-70 has Saban. Yeah, that guy's gonna stay at Houston. Come on.

    TCU and Baylor are better programs at this point than Tamu.

    Have you not seen the rankings for like the past decade?

    And now you are going to have a successful Houston program in that state to try to keep the Houston area kids at home.

    @the-gipper said:

    TCU and Baylor are better programs at this point than Tamu.

    Have you not seen the rankings for like the past decade?

    And now you are going to have a successful Houston program in that state to try to keep the Houston area kids at home.

    Current success does not equate to long-term program health. We've been over this. Baylor and TCU will never ever recruit well enough to win a national championship.

  • @wargograw said:

    One needs no convincing that Cougar High does not have the tools for sustainable success at the top levels, CCU AD or not.

    I smell fear in your heart. Houston's football program will surpass many in the state in Herman's long tenure.

    @the-gipper said:

    I smell fear in your heart. Houston's football program will surpass many in the state in Herman's long tenure.

    I fear one of our rivals getting Herman. I don't fear Houston's program.

  • @the-gipper said:

    I smell fear in your heart. Houston's football program will surpass many in the state in Herman's long tenure.

    I fear one of our rivals getting Herman. I don't fear Houston's program.

    @wargograw said:

    I fear one of our rivals getting Herman. I don't fear Houston's program.

    I thought this was pretty funny, given this conversation.

    http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/14508478/ex-texas-aggies-qb-kyle-allen-plans-transfer-houston-cougars

  • @the-gipper said:

    TCU and Baylor are better programs at this point than Tamu.

    Have you not seen the rankings for like the past decade?

    And now you are going to have a successful Houston program in that state to try to keep the Houston area kids at home.

    Current success does not equate to long-term program health. We've been over this. Baylor and TCU will never ever recruit well enough to win a national championship.

    @wargograw said:

    Current success does not equate to long-term program health. We've been over this. Baylor and TCU will never ever recruit well enough to win a national championship.

    They have both been in the Top ten....even higher. They are both far closer than TAMU to achieving one.

  • @the-gipper said:

    I smell fear in your heart. Houston's football program will surpass many in the state in Herman's long tenure.

    I fear one of our rivals getting Herman. I don't fear Houston's program.

    @wargograw said:

    I fear one of our rivals getting Herman. I don't fear Houston's program.

    Except, of course, if they played TAMU right now, Houston wins.

    You've been a Browns fan too long when you lose your fear of losing.

  • We might lose to them. We might not. Bowl games are all about motivation. Florida State with a national championship on the line is not losing to Houston. Sorry. If you think they are, then you must also think UCONN is actually a better team than Houston.

    As for TCU and Baylor: A&M's actually capable of recruiting in the top 5, which is what's necessary to win a NC (proven time and time again). We just have a bad coach. They could have the greatest coach ever (and they both actually might, those guys are amazing) and they will steal have a ceiling beneath the NC (as we've seen).

  • @furious-styles said:

    Are you implying that 4th round starters are not found in every draft ? The good teams find them. The bad teams don't. Bengals WR Marvin Jones was a 4th round pick. Would you rather have Jones or a practice squad player ?

    No, you're implying that it's seemingly easy to find them, so I'm asking you which exact ones you'd pick. Names.

    Shit or get off the pot.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    No, you're implying that it's seemingly easy to find them, so I'm asking you which exact ones you'd pick. Names.

    Shit or get off the pot.

    OK, I had to cheat. Steelers Martavius Bryant, Landry Jones both 4th round. Why they're in the playoffs, and we're drafting second.

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    No, you're implying that it's seemingly easy to find them, so I'm asking you which exact ones you'd pick. Names.

    Shit or get off the pot.

    OK, I had to cheat. Steelers Martavius Bryant, Landry Jones both 4th round. Why they're in the playoffs, and we're drafting second.

    @hoorta said:

    OK, I had to cheat. Steelers Martavius Bryant, Landry Jones both 4th round. Why they're in the playoffs, and we're drafting second.

    Martavis, sure.

    Landry? Not so much.

  • We might lose to them. We might not. Bowl games are all about motivation. Florida State with a national championship on the line is not losing to Houston. Sorry. If you think they are, then you must also think UCONN is actually a better team than Houston.

    As for TCU and Baylor: A&M's actually capable of recruiting in the top 5, which is what's necessary to win a NC (proven time and time again). We just have a bad coach. They could have the greatest coach ever (and they both actually might, those guys are amazing) and they will steal have a ceiling beneath the NC (as we've seen).

    @wargograw said:

    A&M's actually capable of recruiting in the top 5, which is what's necessary to win a NC (proven time and time again). We just have a bad coach.

    Impossible with a "bad coach"... but still difficult with a good one.

    I grew to love and appreciate Aggie-land during my daughter's five years there, but it is an acquired taste for anyone not raised in the rural lifestyle. And that is a significant recruiting disadvantage on a national scale.