Jonathan Paul Manziel
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It is true that Pettine and Farmer both wanted Carr.
This will be my last comment on Johnny also. I guess addiction leads to lying to those trying to help you. Addiction is complicated. I've never been addicted but I will agree he needs help. The lying to coaches and disguises are desperate acts by a very mixed up person.
I now want to apologize to Mike Pettine. I had no idea what he must have been going through. I hope he gets another job soon.
The dysfunction of the Browns is trickling down from Haslam and sure messed things up. Maybe when the Manziel situation is finally put to rest they can concentrate on building a winning football team.
aside from JW Gacy's clown uniform, name one serial killer that wears/has worn disguises?The lying to coaches and disguises are desperate acts by a very mixed up person.
and OJ?? REALLY? show me evidence of that happening EVER.
terrible and embarrassing examples of...bad examples.
know who wears disguises in America the most? celebs. not serial killers, just famous peeps who don't want recognized. and some thieves casing houses. but mostly the former...and Halloween enthusiasts.
does comparing Manziel to serial killers and murderers help you justify your dislike for him more?
some of you need to smoke a joint and get laid, preferably in that order. uuuuuuup tight like the pole up in your asses.
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Yea, but something else you have to think about: While Jerry might like Johnny....there is another Heisman Trophy winner from Texas who will be available in the offseason that Jerry may be just as enamored with.....and who does not come with all the personal baggage that JFF comes with....and who comes with likely a better upside than Johhny:
RGIII.
Whatever RGIII isn't.....healthy....a good QB in the system....he also has not been an off field problem. He has sat quietly all year not getting a chance to play, and has done nothing to throw the spotlight upon himself.
So, if I were the Cowboys I would say fuck the freakshow....lets bring in a more dynamic a player (in college...and in the pros) and a solid citizen.....RGIII.
Very true Gip, though Jerry seems to already have a relationship with Johnny, and wanted to draft him 2 years ago.
Alot has happened in regards to Johnny the past two years. Think Jerry gives up anything for a backup to Romo ?Very true Gip, though Jerry seems to already have a relationship with Johnny, and wanted to draft him 2 years ago.
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Alot has happened in regards to Johnny the past two years. Think Jerry gives up anything for a backup to Romo ?Very true Gip, though Jerry seems to already have a relationship with Johnny, and wanted to draft him 2 years ago.
Alot has happened in regards to Johnny the past two years. Think Jerry gives up anything for a backup to Romo ?
He does, but I think jerrah would prefer rg3
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If this IS TRUE... Manziel is a funny motherfucker.
Yep...that's what I want in my teams QB....a guy who's a funny motherfucker who disappears from his team and doesn't show up for team required treatments. But he's got dillholes like you supporting him so enjoy watching him play in the CFL. How's Trent Richardson doing these days...according to you he was the 2nd coming of Walter Payton and Jim Brown combined.
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If this IS TRUE... Manziel is a funny motherfucker.
Yep...that's what I want in my teams QB....a guy who's a funny motherfucker who disappears from his team and doesn't show up for team required treatments. But he's got dillholes like you supporting him so enjoy watching him play in the CFL. How's Trent Richardson doing these days...according to you he was the 2nd coming of Walter Payton and Jim Brown combined.
Yep...that's what I want in my teams QB....a guy who's a funny motherfucker who disappears from his team and doesn't show up for team required treatments. But he's got dillholes like you supporting him so enjoy watching him play in the CFL. How's Trent Richardson doing these days...according to you he was the 2nd coming of Walter Payton and Jim Brown combined.
lol touché!! he's got you there, Po!
if it's any consolation, my true hope is that my ideal QB lineup by mid season 2016 is Goff, McCown, JmfM...in that order.
so what about as the 3rd QB, Mark? talent-wise he very well might be the best 3rd string backup in the league. would be nice to have around in October after the first two go down injured. just saying. no one would fault the team for not starting him, and he does have value keeping him for a backup. in that role they may be able to contain his antics down to a very minor and manageable distraction.
excited to see what the Tri-Lamb collective decides about his metrics.
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VesnaKociper said:
This is no big deal. When I was in Vegas Last time, Stan and I both put on show girl outfits and did high kicks for dollar bills.
TMI VK, now preserved forever...lol
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I honestly think we could get a conditional 4th or 5th out of Jerry. He likes the kid and has occasionally given him decent seats in Jerryworld I believe. Jerry also thinks he is able to take on head cases and make players out of them. JM would be a perfect fit.
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so he can go to Dallas and be all world for them?? fuck that he's OUR shit show.
think the franchise is a punchline now, just imagine if Manziel left and had incredible success elsewhere.
#rideittillthewheelsfalloff
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Oh sweet baby Jesus, PLEASE let this happen... This is just a warm up act for what the Billy Manziel act could produce in Dallas
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The problem is that the Browns can't trade him until the draft in late April.
I was behind Johnny & still think the talent is there, but the drama, distractions, & negative perceptions of the Browns have to go. As long as he is here, those negatives stay.
What will Jerry spend? Will the Browns cut him, trade him, or keep him? CAN they afford to wait until draft day?
We'll just have to wait & see what the new FO decides.
Mike
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Full disclosure: Teams I'd love Billy boy to land with. Steelers, Cowboys & Patriots. I have every confidence that when Billy boy said "let's wreck this league" he was referring to ruining one team at a time.
I don't know why any GM would want to give up a draft pick for someone that they could just wait and pick up in FA. The Cowboys have the 4th pick anyways they could easily trade up or stay put drafting a QB with more talent and less baggage.
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Anyone talk to Phil yet ?
Browns fan (Phil) reacts to Manziel pick:
Anyone talk to Phil yet ?
Browns fan (Phil) reacts to Manziel pick:
I sorta threw up when the pick was announced. Fact.
never saw anyone on concussion protocol put on a wig and mustache.....man o man...cmon man.....
He was concussed, and not himself. Really, just call him Johnny Devious.
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I thought Jalyn Smith was only a junior anyway?
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Sadly though, he is the most "entertainment value" of this franchise. Although the poster-boy of all that has gone wrong with this franchise since 1996 ... and that is really saying something to be vaulted at the top of that class at this stage of the fiasco. I'm starting to really like this guy now. He's freaking crazy! I'm not sure that I'm sane, or you're sane (for being here, still engaged in this franchise). I was numb, but now I'm glued to this circus ... this is unbelievable.
Sadly though, he is the most "entertainment value" of this franchise. Although the poster-boy of all that has gone wrong with this franchise since 1996 ... and that is really saying something to be vaulted at the top of that class at this stage of the fiasco. I'm starting to really like this guy now. He's freaking crazy! I'm not sure that I'm sane, or you're sane (for being here, still engaged in this franchise). I was numb, but now I'm glued to this circus ... this is unbelievable.
Stan- I was on record when they drafted JFF- "You draft him, you're bringing the circus to town along with him." TOOT, TOOT, hate to blow my own horn, but damned if I wasn't right. Enjoy the Circus while you can, it's leaving town shortly.
or maybe he just thought he could get away with it with the instagram post saying he was in avon and all, and being slick.or maybe the kid is just a crazy alcoholic, mentally unstable, the biggest bust of the century, and the next ryan leaf.
I vote for the former, and he'll never be as big a bust as Leaf- he was drafted around 18 slots lower.
Not surprised at all. Bill Belichick's scouting report about the "outlaw Manziels" was correct after all. Johnny's displaying a dangerous combination of alcoholism and privilege. His family's always considered themselves above the law so sucker Jimmy forces his front office and coaching staff to draft this jerk (reports now say Carr was Pettine's preferred QB) and this is how he repays Haslam.
Botttomline is it serves Haslam right but now we have many families losing their jobs without recompense (junior coaching staff, front office grunts) because of this selfish pr**k.
Yeah- assuming Pettine is right about Carr, then Haslam repays him for being right by firing him.
Acting like a jackass and lying to your team about where you are and what you're doing and trying to cover it up isn't exactly going to endear him to other team owners and coaches.
Johnny is in serious denial about his substance abuse problem. (or maybe not) If the report about him showing up Wednesday for the qb meeting smashed is true (I don't doubt it) JFF may have said to himself- screw it- I know I'm f**ked. Mark- it's D-Nile, and then lying to cover it up on top of it- classic behavior.
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Did you know he's hiding out in his home in Avon Lake with a sheet on his door. FanSided showed a picture of his front door that was published by TMZ.
THEY ALSO POSTED A PIC OF HIM SHOPPING FOR WINE AND POTATO CHIPS
Doesn't TMZ have anything better to do.
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Dallas has the fourth pick and Jerrah has intimated he'd take a QB. No team in their right mind wants Johnny Baggage. Maybe Chip Kelly takes a flier if he lands the SanFrancisco job.
RG3 can't stay healthy, His teammates hated him but he's still better than Manziel.
Chip Kelly is still the wildcard ( or Joker) in this year's coaching carousel. Knowing Kelly he'll take both these guys to wherever he lands.
The Rams need a quarterback, San Francisco, Browns, Chicago might want one, Houston will need to draft one too
And finally, if I was Indy, I would at least get a backup.
Bottom line,for Dallas: they'll work out RG3 and Manziel,then draft a QB.
AS LONG AS,IT IS NOT CARDALE
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VesnaKociper said:
This is like finding out that BOTH Oprah Winfrey and Whoopie Goldberg want to be your prom date.
Wow, I bet Jerry Jones is just shitting himself over these two great opportunities. A run-first cripple.........A POS punk.
Both garbage.
You're forgetting that Jerry Jones is way in to middle aged big black women (in this analogy).
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Well if you can set aside the personal beef that you guys have had since johnny was drafted you must admit that he has shown potential and has actually played and won in 2015. There must be some reason that rg3 never even saw the field.
And at least some of you guys wanted him here.
One would assume Reginald is harder to get along with, teamwise, than Johnny.
I'd bet Washington fans would have more information.
WSS
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Well if you can set aside the personal beef that you guys have had since johnny was drafted you must admit that he has shown potential and has actually played and won in 2015. There must be some reason that rg3 never even saw the field.
And at least some of you guys wanted him here.
One would assume Reginald is harder to get along with, teamwise, than Johnny.
I'd bet Washington fans would have more information.
WSS
Well if you can set aside the personal beef that you guys have had since johnny was drafted you must admit that he has shown potential and has actually played and won in 2015. There must be some reason that rg3 never even saw the field.
And at least some of you guys wanted him here.
One would assume Reginald is harder to get along with, teamwise, than Johnny.
I'd bet Washington fans would have more information.
WSS
I think RG3's problem was that he was front and centre in a tug of power between Snyder and The Shanahans, and generally wasn't that good. Snyder wanted to build the franchise around him, Shanahans didn't, and RG3 suffered. He hasn't done or said anything that indicates bad teammate as far as I can remember.
With Johnny, he's shown progress as a player, to the point where now we're like 'OK, maybe this guy can be decent in the future' and his team mates were all pleased with the attitude, in the building. But, he keeps giving the finger to those same team mates by just not really caring when he's outside the building. Like JT said, he wants the Browns to be the most important thing in his QB's life, and it's clear that Manziel's priorities lie elsewhere, and he's sure it'll be addressed in the offseason.
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