Jonathan Paul Manziel
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Chris I'm sure there are members of the team who are annoyed. Still Joe Thomas is the kind of guy who praises him when he worked hard. I'm sure he's disappointed if in fact these actions are indicative Johnny's cavalier attitude toward the game, as opposed to a way out of a place he felt he wasn't wanted.
Rumor has it he's well liked among some other players. Who knows?
Sisky I mostly agree with that.
Imagine a player from Cleveland drafted by the Dallas Cowboys who got and round up getting dumped or traded to the Browns and took us to the playoffs. Nobody would care if he fucked a sheep in downtown Dallas to get out.
WSS
Sisky I mostly agree with that.
Imagine a player from Cleveland drafted by the Dallas Cowboys who got and wound up getting dumped or traded to the Browns and took us to the playoffs. Nobody would care if he fucked a sheep in downtown Dallas to get out.
WSS
I have been in agreement with a lot of your points throughout this latest Johnny drama (and previously) and have always appreciated your often out-of-the-box thoughts, and some occasional thought-provoking left field takes as well. cheers to contrarian comraderie.
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An old fellow on the town council in some movie would vote against the majority as a general rule whether he agreed or not.
"I never liked a unanimous vote; don't seem democratic"
WSS
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I wouldn't let Jerry Jones or Johnny Manziel dictate where he goes. He's under contract with no leverage so don't give them any. They both need to STFU and let the process happen. Everybody wants Johnny gone even Johnny himself so pay the fiddler.
RG3 would be an excellent choice if you want a divided lockerroom while he sits hurt on the sidelines.
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Chris I'm sure there are members of the team who are annoyed. Still Joe Thomas is the kind of guy who praises him when he worked hard. I'm sure he's disappointed if in fact these actions are indicative Johnny's cavalier attitude toward the game, as opposed to a way out of a place he felt he wasn't wanted.
Rumor has it he's well liked among some other players. Who knows?
Sisky I mostly agree with that.
Imagine a player from Cleveland drafted by the Dallas Cowboys who got and round up getting dumped or traded to the Browns and took us to the playoffs. Nobody would care if he fucked a sheep in downtown Dallas to get out.
WSS
Manziel is a 100% joke.Chris I'm sure there are members of the team who are annoyed. Still Joe Thomas is the kind of guy who praises him when he worked hard. I'm sure he's disappointed if in fact these actions are indicative Johnny's cavalier attitude toward the game, as opposed to a way out of a place he felt he wasn't wanted.
Rumor has it he's well liked among some other players. Who knows?
Sisky I mostly agree with that.
Imagine a player from Cleveland drafted by the Dallas Cowboys who got and round up getting dumped or traded to the Browns and took us to the playoffs. Nobody would care if he fucked a sheep in downtown Dallas to get out.
WSS
Signed: a Browns player
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I wouldn't let Jerry Jones or Johnny Manziel dictate where he goes. He's under contract with no leverage so don't give them any. They both need to STFU and let the process happen. Everybody wants Johnny gone even Johnny himself so pay the fiddler.
RG3 would be an excellent choice if you want a divided lockerroom while he sits hurt on the sidelines.
You don't think there was a locker room divide in Cleveland ? RG3 Has done nothing even remotely comparable to the team distracting antics of Manziel. RG3 even played scout team to help his team, not fly off to vegas with an alledged concussion, lie and not suppprt his team against a division rival. Who's the better teammate ?"One said:
I wouldn't let Jerry Jones or Johnny Manziel dictate where he goes. He's under contract with no leverage so don't give them any. They both need to STFU and let the process happen. Everybody wants Johnny gone even Johnny himself so pay the fiddler.
RG3 would be an excellent choice if you want a divided lockerroom while he sits hurt on the sidelines.
Billy wants to go to Dallas as a backup and keep doing what he's doing. Why not go where you have a chance to start ?
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You don't think there was a locker room divide in Cleveland ? RG3 Has done nothing even remotely comparable to the team distracting antics of Manziel. RG3 even played scout team to help his team, not fly off to vegas with an alledged concussion, lie and not suppprt his team against a division rival. Who's the better teammate ?"One said:
I wouldn't let Jerry Jones or Johnny Manziel dictate where he goes. He's under contract with no leverage so don't give them any. They both need to STFU and let the process happen. Everybody wants Johnny gone even Johnny himself so pay the fiddler.
RG3 would be an excellent choice if you want a divided lockerroom while he sits hurt on the sidelines.
Billy wants to go to Dallas as a backup and keep doing what he's doing. Why not go where you have a chance to start ?
A tale of lesser evils. Pick your poison then. Truth is you don't know what kind of offense the Browns are going with much less having either of these fodders on next years roster.You don't think there was a locker room divide in Cleveland ? RG3 Has done nothing even remotely comparable to the team distracting antics of Manziel. RG3 even played scout team to help his team, not fly off to vegas with an alledged concussion, lie and not suppprt his team against a division rival. Who's the better teammate ?
Billy wants to go to Dallas as a backup and keep doing what he's doing. Why not go where you have a chance to start ?
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From some of the comments im reading here, some seem to be going soft on the whole billy situation. Excuse me if this is at all prejudice, but fuck that Retarded little cunt, he's a circus act, he is everything bad associated with this franchise right now, we're in a transition period, step one in moving in the right direction is operating on this type of cancer that is sucking the life out of this football team. Fuck off and die johnny fuckin football, you've derailed our future plans by at least 4 years.
Please jimmy send him to Holland to fuck crack whores and feed his habits till he dies in a ditch.
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you firmly believe there are ET's not only present but fully integrated into our society but Johnny orchestrating a release is about as far fetched and ridiculous as it gets?For anyone to suggest that Manziel has some brilliant scheme to get out of Cleveland is about as far fetched and ridiculous as you can get. Even though I'm a firm believer that there are aliens living and working among us, I refuse to believe this crap.
part of me likes your firm beliefs.
another part of me wonders why you think this is harder to believe than your ET example.
to me it's not even far fetched or difficult to imagine. i've personally done crazier, many times.
and i'm no JmfM apologist but i disagree you can not draw those strong conclusions about his talent from a rookie year plagued by staff infighting and Hoyer resentments. Drew Brees', Paul Warfield's, and Gary Barnidge's do exist after all.
you firmly believe there are ET's not only present but fully integrated into our society but Johnny orchestrating a release is about as far fetched and ridiculous as it gets?
part of me likes your firm beliefs.
another part of me wonders why you think this is harder to believe than your ET example.
to me it's not even far fetched or difficult to imagine. i've personally done crazier, many times.
and i'm no JmfM apologist but i disagree you can not draw those strong conclusions about his talent from a rookie year plagued by staff infighting and Hoyer resentments. Drew Brees', Paul Warfield's, and Gary Barnidge's do exist after all.
Let's look at the details....JF tells Pettine and the media " Don't worry about me, I'm not going to do anything to embarrass the organization"...pictures / videos circulate of him partying when he should have been preparing to be the starting qb. JF denies it and says they are old pics / vids....he is found to be lying and demoted to 3rd string. Next, he comes to practice drunk, and we are told he has a concussion, so he goes to Vegas in disguise. If I were trying to get out of Cleveland, and decided to this, I would admit to it....not lie about it. If he wants out, why not go to Haslam and say "I want out" ? Who in their right mind would be interested in him after all this weird immature crap? Jerry Jones, I guess. What do Drew Brees, Paul Warfield and Gary Barnidge have to do with it? I certainly can't come up with any similar qualities in JF. Maybe you can...if so, let's get back to the discussion about the aliens.
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never saw anyone on concussion protocol put on a wig and mustache.....man o man...
Purely therapeutic... keep the head and upper lip warm... and the shades fight light sensitivity...
As for "Billy"... memory loss induced name confusion is a classic symptom...
Never have made excuses for him like Steve and others here (past and present) have, so thought I'd take a shot while I still can.
Hi, Steve...
I sorta threw up when the pick was announced. Fact.
I was crestfallen, but managed to keep my streak alive...
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LOL!
JM's call to the Browns based on George Costanza?
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Various betting odds on where he actually lands after Cleveland.
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I thought Jalyn Smith was only a junior anyway?
He is, but was believed to be leaning towards declaring.
Interestingly DraftScout has Smith as the #2 OLB in the class of '17 behind UCLA's Miles Jack who has declared.
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Various betting odds on where he actually lands after Cleveland.
Various betting odds on where he actually lands after Cleveland.
Follow the Chip Kelly rumors. Wherever he goes could be a decent bet, aside from Dallas. If I'm Jerrah I prefer RGIII.
Regardless as I see it RGIII/Manziel will end up on Dallas and whatever team Kelly is coaching.
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maybe it's because i'm borderline insane, but this news didn't even make me flinch. slightly amused, appreciate the creativity and definitely honored he named himself after me, but other than that this changes nothing for me.
McCown, JmfM, Goff...1,2,3 2016
to anyone who wants Austin Davis or Connor Shaw ahead of Johnny, it's a safe bet you would absolutely hate me irl.
just harmless fun imo, hey John, pass that shit over here.
McCown, JmfM, Goff...1,2,3 2016
How can anyone want JM within three states of a fresh, #2 overall QB?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
McCown, JmfM, Goff...1,2,3 2016
How can anyone want JM within three states of a fresh, #2 overall QB?
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aside from JW Gacy's clown uniform, name one serial killer that wears/has worn disguises?The lying to coaches and disguises are desperate acts by a very mixed up person.
and OJ?? REALLY? show me evidence of that happening EVER.
terrible and embarrassing examples of...bad examples.
know who wears disguises in America the most? celebs. not serial killers, just famous peeps who don't want recognized. and some thieves casing houses. but mostly the former...and Halloween enthusiasts.
does comparing Manziel to serial killers and murderers help you justify your dislike for him more?
some of you need to smoke a joint and get laid, preferably in that order. uuuuuuup tight like the pole up in your asses.
aside from JW Gacy's clown uniform, name one serial killer that wears/has worn disguises?
Bundy
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Jaylon Smith apparently tore his ACL & MCL. He might consider returning to college?
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McCown, JmfM, Goff...1,2,3 2016
How can anyone want JM within three states of a fresh, #2 overall QB?
How can anyone want JM within three states of a fresh, #2 overall QB?
I would like to see him in Pit, Cincy, or Baltimore (as a player). Those are all within 3 states.
The reality is Manziel is gone no matter what. I don't think the analytics say very good things about an alcoholic midget quarterback who can't throw a football - then again, the football people don't say good things about an alcoholic midget quarterback who can't throw a football either.
If we draft Goff, it will assuredly be Goff, McCown, Davis/Shaw as QB1, QB2, and QB3. Anybody aside from Goff it may be McCown as QB1 to open up 2016
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How can anyone want JM within three states of a fresh, #2 overall QB?
I would like to see him in Pit, Cincy, or Baltimore (as a player). Those are all within 3 states.
The reality is Manziel is gone no matter what. I don't think the analytics say very good things about an alcoholic midget quarterback who can't throw a football - then again, the football people don't say good things about an alcoholic midget quarterback who can't throw a football either.
If we draft Goff, it will assuredly be Goff, McCown, Davis/Shaw as QB1, QB2, and QB3. Anybody aside from Goff it may be McCown as QB1 to open up 2016
I would like to see him in Pit, Cincy, or Baltimore (as a player). Those are all within 3 states.
The reality is Manziel is gone no matter what. I don't think the analytics say very good things about an alcoholic midget quarterback who can't throw a football - then again, the football people don't say good things about an alcoholic midget quarterback who can't throw a football either.
If we draft Goff, it will assuredly be Goff, McCown, Davis/Shaw as QB1, QB2, and QB3. Anybody aside from Goff it may be McCown as QB1 to open up 2016
I think even with Goff it may be McCown to open up, depending on the new coach.
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I would like to see him in Pit, Cincy, or Baltimore (as a player). Those are all within 3 states.
The reality is Manziel is gone no matter what. I don't think the analytics say very good things about an alcoholic midget quarterback who can't throw a football - then again, the football people don't say good things about an alcoholic midget quarterback who can't throw a football either.
If we draft Goff, it will assuredly be Goff, McCown, Davis/Shaw as QB1, QB2, and QB3. Anybody aside from Goff it may be McCown as QB1 to open up 2016
I think even with Goff it may be McCown to open up, depending on the new coach.
I think even with Goff it may be McCown to open up, depending on the new coach.
Don't think so with Goff. I think he's at the level where he'd be effective from day 1 - and using the #2 on him probably makes it more likely. New coach would probably wanna accelerate his development as fast as possible, since he only has 1-2 years to start winning
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