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  • B browns52

    @mohican said:

    strong odor of an alcoholic beverage. Ethanol is for most intents and purposes odorless. Its the other stuff - yeast, hops, etc that provide the odor.

    never saw anyone on concussion protocol put on a wig and mustache.....man o man...cmon man.....

    @browns52 said:

    never saw anyone on concussion protocol put on a wig and mustache.....man o man...

    Purely therapeutic... keep the head and upper lip warm... and the shades fight light sensitivity...

    As for "Billy"... memory loss induced name confusion is a classic symptom...

    Never have made excuses for him like Steve and others here (past and present) have, so thought I'd take a shot while I still can.

    Hi, Steve... 😉

    @hoorta said:

    I sorta threw up when the pick was announced. Fact.

    I was crestfallen, but managed to keep my streak alive...

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
    W 1 Reply

  • LOL!

    JM's call to the Browns based on George Costanza?

  • Various betting odds on where he actually lands after Cleveland.

    http://www.chron.com/sports/texans/article/Johnny-Manziel-to-the-Texans-a-15-to-1-longshot-6738705.php

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  • W wargograw

    I thought Jalyn Smith was only a junior anyway?

    @wargograw said:

    I thought Jalyn Smith was only a junior anyway?

    He is, but was believed to be leaning towards declaring.

    Interestingly DraftScout has Smith as the #2 OLB in the class of '17 behind UCLA's Miles Jack who has declared.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • T TexasAg1969

    Various betting odds on where he actually lands after Cleveland.

    http://www.chron.com/sports/texans/article/Johnny-Manziel-to-the-Texans-a-15-to-1-longshot-6738705.php

    @texasag1969 said:

    Follow the Chip Kelly rumors. Wherever he goes could be a decent bet, aside from Dallas. If I'm Jerrah I prefer RGIII.

    Regardless as I see it RGIII/Manziel will end up on Dallas and whatever team Kelly is coaching.

  • sisky fringoS sisky fringo

    maybe it's because i'm borderline insane, but this news didn't even make me flinch. slightly amused, appreciate the creativity and definitely honored he named himself after me, but other than that this changes nothing for me.

    McCown, JmfM, Goff...1,2,3 2016

    to anyone who wants Austin Davis or Connor Shaw ahead of Johnny, it's a safe bet you would absolutely hate me irl.

    just harmless fun imo, hey John, pass that shit over here.

    @sisky-fringo said:

    McCown, JmfM, Goff...1,2,3 2016

    How can anyone want JM within three states of a fresh, #2 overall QB?

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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @sisky-fringo said:

    McCown, JmfM, Goff...1,2,3 2016

    How can anyone want JM within three states of a fresh, #2 overall QB?

    @tour2ma said:

    How can anyone want JM within three states of a fresh, #2 overall QB?

    I wouldn't mind seeing him fuck up a close rival?

  • sisky fringoS sisky fringo

    @opal312 said:

    The lying to coaches and disguises are desperate acts by a very mixed up person.

    aside from JW Gacy's clown uniform, name one serial killer that wears/has worn disguises?

    and OJ?? REALLY? show me evidence of that happening EVER.

    terrible and embarrassing examples of...bad examples.

    know who wears disguises in America the most? celebs. not serial killers, just famous peeps who don't want recognized. and some thieves casing houses. but mostly the former...and Halloween enthusiasts.

    does comparing Manziel to serial killers and murderers help you justify your dislike for him more?

    some of you need to smoke a joint and get laid, preferably in that order. uuuuuuup tight like the pole up in your asses.

    @sisky-fringo said:

    aside from JW Gacy's clown uniform, name one serial killer that wears/has worn disguises?

    Bundy

  • Jaylon Smith apparently tore his ACL & MCL. He might consider returning to college?

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000618229/article/report-notre-dame-lb-jaylon-smith-to-undergo-knee-surgery

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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @sisky-fringo said:

    McCown, JmfM, Goff...1,2,3 2016

    How can anyone want JM within three states of a fresh, #2 overall QB?

    @tour2ma said:

    How can anyone want JM within three states of a fresh, #2 overall QB?

    I would like to see him in Pit, Cincy, or Baltimore (as a player). Those are all within 3 states.

    The reality is Manziel is gone no matter what. I don't think the analytics say very good things about an alcoholic midget quarterback who can't throw a football - then again, the football people don't say good things about an alcoholic midget quarterback who can't throw a football either.

    If we draft Goff, it will assuredly be Goff, McCown, Davis/Shaw as QB1, QB2, and QB3. Anybody aside from Goff it may be McCown as QB1 to open up 2016

  • bbedwardB bbedward

    @tour2ma said:

    How can anyone want JM within three states of a fresh, #2 overall QB?

    I would like to see him in Pit, Cincy, or Baltimore (as a player). Those are all within 3 states.

    The reality is Manziel is gone no matter what. I don't think the analytics say very good things about an alcoholic midget quarterback who can't throw a football - then again, the football people don't say good things about an alcoholic midget quarterback who can't throw a football either.

    If we draft Goff, it will assuredly be Goff, McCown, Davis/Shaw as QB1, QB2, and QB3. Anybody aside from Goff it may be McCown as QB1 to open up 2016

    @bbedward said:

    I would like to see him in Pit, Cincy, or Baltimore (as a player). Those are all within 3 states.

    The reality is Manziel is gone no matter what. I don't think the analytics say very good things about an alcoholic midget quarterback who can't throw a football - then again, the football people don't say good things about an alcoholic midget quarterback who can't throw a football either.

    If we draft Goff, it will assuredly be Goff, McCown, Davis/Shaw as QB1, QB2, and QB3. Anybody aside from Goff it may be McCown as QB1 to open up 2016

    I think even with Goff it may be McCown to open up, depending on the new coach.

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  • gftChrisG gftChris

    @bbedward said:

    I would like to see him in Pit, Cincy, or Baltimore (as a player). Those are all within 3 states.

    The reality is Manziel is gone no matter what. I don't think the analytics say very good things about an alcoholic midget quarterback who can't throw a football - then again, the football people don't say good things about an alcoholic midget quarterback who can't throw a football either.

    If we draft Goff, it will assuredly be Goff, McCown, Davis/Shaw as QB1, QB2, and QB3. Anybody aside from Goff it may be McCown as QB1 to open up 2016

    I think even with Goff it may be McCown to open up, depending on the new coach.

    @gftchris said:

    I think even with Goff it may be McCown to open up, depending on the new coach.

    Don't think so with Goff. I think he's at the level where he'd be effective from day 1 - and using the #2 on him probably makes it more likely. New coach would probably wanna accelerate his development as fast as possible, since he only has 1-2 years to start winning 😛

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  • lodiloboL lodilobo

    @sisky-fringo said:

    you firmly believe there are ET's not only present but fully integrated into our society but Johnny orchestrating a release is about as far fetched and ridiculous as it gets?

    part of me likes your firm beliefs.

    another part of me wonders why you think this is harder to believe than your ET example.

    to me it's not even far fetched or difficult to imagine. i've personally done crazier, many times.

    and i'm no JmfM apologist but i disagree you can not draw those strong conclusions about his talent from a rookie year plagued by staff infighting and Hoyer resentments. Drew Brees', Paul Warfield's, and Gary Barnidge's do exist after all.

    Let's look at the details....JF tells Pettine and the media " Don't worry about me, I'm not going to do anything to embarrass the organization"...pictures / videos circulate of him partying when he should have been preparing to be the starting qb. JF denies it and says they are old pics / vids....he is found to be lying and demoted to 3rd string. Next, he comes to practice drunk, and we are told he has a concussion, so he goes to Vegas in disguise. If I were trying to get out of Cleveland, and decided to this, I would admit to it....not lie about it. If he wants out, why not go to Haslam and say "I want out" ? Who in their right mind would be interested in him after all this weird immature crap? Jerry Jones, I guess. What do Drew Brees, Paul Warfield and Gary Barnidge have to do with it? I certainly can't come up with any similar qualities in JF. Maybe you can...if so, let's get back to the discussion about the aliens.

    @lodilobo said:

    Let's look at the details....JF tells Pettine and the media " Don't worry about me, I'm not going to do anything to embarrass the organization"...pictures / videos circulate of him partying when he should have been preparing to be the starting qb. JF denies it and says they are old pics / vids....he is found to be lying and demoted to 3rd string. Next, he comes to practice drunk, and we are told he has a concussion, so he goes to Vegas in disguise. If I were trying to get out of Cleveland, and decided to this, I would admit to it....not lie about it. If he wants out, why not go to Haslam and say "I want out" ? Who in their right mind would be interested in him after all this weird immature crap? Jerry Jones, I guess. What do Drew Brees, Paul Warfield and Gary Barnidge have to do with it? I certainly can't come up with any similar qualities in JF. Maybe you can...if so, let's get back to the discussion about the aliens.

    put anyone under a microscope and you will find something if you look hard enough. we only know what we hear from the outside looking in, which isn't necessarily reality. it may be one of those times to prescribe to what E.A. Poe once said, "believe only half of what you see and nothing that you hear".

    Johnny didn't seem to harbor any resentment toward Coach Pettine by all accounts i read for getting benched as if he felt it deserving, and actually stuck up for him in the press. he wanted continuity and to not have to learn a new playbook. not condoning his behavior at all, but it's very possible he had a legit concussion and when he heard Haslam was cleaning house he may have just said "fuck it, i'm no good to the team during this concussion protocol so i'm gonna do me".

    for all we know Coach Pet could have even been made aware by JmfM himself and said "whatever Johnny, I can't stop you. but, if you do go do ur thing in Vegas just keep a low profile and ideally try not to even be recognized". who knows. besides his agent. very likely his agent has been aware of everything all along and involved at least from an awareness perspective since the very beginning.

    you may say you would do this or that, but until you are them and in their exact position and being advised by your agent you don't know what you would do. think about it, if you were attempting to get cut or traded would you tell your boss and the journalists, or just your prospective employers? very hard to say w zero frame of reference or personal experience.

    the similarities between those guys is if everyone gave up on them after their rookie years we would look at them quite differently.

    johnny just turned 23 a month ago. if Jerry Jones believes tolerating some immature and distracting behavior from a talented kid who wins games is a worthwhile tradeoff, maybe we could learn something from him. they already drafted him. they already paid him. he already became what they feared. there was already fallout. it's possible to minimize his antics. he still has value. so why reward his bad behavior and dump him before there is a payoff??

    to part ways now would benefit everyone except the Browns and their fans...from Johnny and his fans to Jerry Jones and the Cowboys or whoever. the damage is done. talented and successful leadership could and would manage the situation, not give up on it prematurely.

    to stop now is like trying a new route up Everest but quitting 1,000' from the top. the route may not ever lead you to the peak, but after investing so much into the climb, you certainly don't quit until you know for sure.

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  • T TexasAg1969

    Various betting odds on where he actually lands after Cleveland.

    http://www.chron.com/sports/texans/article/Johnny-Manziel-to-the-Texans-a-15-to-1-longshot-6738705.php

    @texasag1969 said:

    I would love to see him end up in Houston, just to see Brian Hoyer's reaction.

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  • Or swimming two thirds of the way across the English Channel and saying fuck this, I'm turning around and going back.

    And if you want to feel sorry for a wasted career remember Josh McCown says he's never played two years in a row in the same system.

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  • bbedwardB bbedward

    @gftchris said:

    I think even with Goff it may be McCown to open up, depending on the new coach.

    Don't think so with Goff. I think he's at the level where he'd be effective from day 1 - and using the #2 on him probably makes it more likely. New coach would probably wanna accelerate his development as fast as possible, since he only has 1-2 years to start winning 😛

    @bbedward said:

    Don't think so with Goff. I think he's at the level where he'd be effective from day 1 - and using the #2 on him probably makes it more likely. New coach would probably wanna accelerate his development as fast as possible, since he only has 1-2 years to start winning 😛

    Watching Goff the things that impress me are his pocket awareness and touch on passes. It seems like he almost glides away from rushers - certainly not shedding tacklers like Big Ben. And it seems like he puts the right touch on every throw, not missing the easy ones to the RB in space for example, but still finding the receiver coming across the middle with mustard.

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  • gftChrisG gftChris

    @texasag1969 said:

    I would love to see him end up in Houston, just to see Brian Hoyer's reaction.

    @gftchris said:

    I would love to see him end up in Houston, just to see Brian Hoyer's reaction.

    0% chance of that happening. The owner of the Texans doesn't like Drama. Also the Texans fired a QB that started for them this year because he was late multiple times.

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  • gftChrisG gftChris

    @bbedward said:

    Don't think so with Goff. I think he's at the level where he'd be effective from day 1 - and using the #2 on him probably makes it more likely. New coach would probably wanna accelerate his development as fast as possible, since he only has 1-2 years to start winning 😛

    Watching Goff the things that impress me are his pocket awareness and touch on passes. It seems like he almost glides away from rushers - certainly not shedding tacklers like Big Ben. And it seems like he puts the right touch on every throw, not missing the easy ones to the RB in space for example, but still finding the receiver coming across the middle with mustard.

    @gftchris said:

    Watching Goff the things that impress me are his pocket awareness and touch on passes. It seems like he almost glides away from rushers - certainly not shedding tacklers like Big Ben. And it seems like he puts the right touch on every throw, not missing the easy ones to the RB in space for example, but still finding the receiver coming across the middle with mustard.

    Yep...there's very little to not like. Operating from the pocket just looks so natural to him, with eyes always downfield and scanning, he physically always moves his body when scanning similar to how an Aaron Rodgers does. And he's deadly accurate short/medium/deep range, and tends to make the right reads. Most of the interceptions seem like they just come from trying to force in too tight a window (too much confidence) or tipped pass.

    He has a set of qualities that most QBs just can't learn and have to either overcome in other ways, become a backup, or retire early.

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  • J Johnny Fingers Farmer

    @gftchris said:

    I would love to see him end up in Houston, just to see Brian Hoyer's reaction.

    0% chance of that happening. The owner of the Texans doesn't like Drama. Also the Texans fired a QB that started for them this year because he was late multiple times.

    @johnny-fingers-farmer said:

    0% chance of that happening. .....he Texans fired a QB that started for them this year because he was late multiple times.

    Right....took them very little time to tell Mallet to go f&*k himself....

    Browns could've learned a little from that cut.....and so ironic they are winning with the guys we dumped, while we lose with the guy we refuse to dump....

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  • Something weird about this Vegas thing with Manziel. Why has no photo's or vidios showed up ? All the people in the casino and at the blackjack table din't take a picture ? And no pictures at the nightclub ? Your gonna tell me T,M,Z AND bUSTED COVERAGE CAN'T COME UP WITH A PICTURE OR A VIDEO ? Will Burge of espn who broke this story i quote " we will post a ptcture proving this is real " Well were still waiting. Why has no ne at the airport or on the plane come forth ? I'm not saying this didn't happeh but alot of times news reporters take these stories and run with it without the facts.

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