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  • Mark OM Mark O

    @bbedward said:

    We don't have to dump him for nothing

    we might though... RGIII wants to play in Dallas as well. Who would you take? Johnny shitshow or the guy who kept his mouth shut and played on the scout team in practice all year?

    @mark-o said:

    we might though... RGIII wants to play in Dallas as well. Who would you take? Johnny shitshow or the guy who kept his mouth shut and played on the scout team in practice all year?

    If I'm Jerry, I take Johnny. I'm an idiot...remember?

  • @opal312 said:

    If the Titans draft Tunsil then Bosa. Then Zeke Elliot, Then Cardale Jones, wide receivers galore in the next four rounds!

    There is absolutely zero bias in this post.

    I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride
  • Mark OM Mark O

    @bbedward said:

    We don't have to dump him for nothing

    we might though... RGIII wants to play in Dallas as well. Who would you take? Johnny shitshow or the guy who kept his mouth shut and played on the scout team in practice all year?

    @mark-o said:

    we might though... RGIII wants to play in Dallas as well. Who would you take? Johnny shitshow or the guy who kept his mouth shut and played on the scout team in practice all year?

    Well we can gauge interest anyway. Something is better than nothing. I do think jerrah would prefer RG3 though

  • Mark OM Mark O

    @bbedward said:

    We don't have to dump him for nothing

    we might though... RGIII wants to play in Dallas as well. Who would you take? Johnny shitshow or the guy who kept his mouth shut and played on the scout team in practice all year?

    @mark-o said:

    we might though... RGIII wants to play in Dallas as well. Who would you take? Johnny shitshow or the guy who kept his mouth shut and played on the scout team in practice all year?

    Does RGIII not cost exponentially more? Or is he just a FA now?

    RichiswhereR 1 Reply

  • RG3 will be an FA as soon as WSH makes it official that they don't want to pick up his $16mm, one-year option...

    It's an interesting debate as to which one to take, but I actually would not be surprised if Jerrah nabbed them both. Neither should be that expensive to land.

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  • https://www.etsy.com/listing/262713309/st-billy-vegas-johnny-manziel-cleveland

    I cannot stop laughing

  • Mr. Make-BelieveM Mr. Make-Believe

    @mark-o said:

    we might though... RGIII wants to play in Dallas as well. Who would you take? Johnny shitshow or the guy who kept his mouth shut and played on the scout team in practice all year?

    Does RGIII not cost exponentially more? Or is he just a FA now?

    @mr.-make-believe said:

    Does RGIII not cost exponentially more? Or is he just a FA now?

    They picked up his option for 2016 for $16 mil. It is only guaranteed if hes injured. I don't see anyone trading for him with this contract but also don't see the Redskins paying a backup that kind of money either.
    "You see the Rams are still thinking that they are playing Tony Dorsett" -Jim Brown 1978

  • lol... and in plenty of time for my daughter's birthday.

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  • PoeticGP PoeticG

    If you don't have haters you're doing it wrong.

    Manziel is going to be a Maniac next season with some actual recievers, ala the best in the game, Josh Gordon. If the Browns can find another TE and develop Pryor some more, add in Benjamin if he resigns and land a god damn FB... you can pretty much count on a playoff berth. Manziel had one game that he wishes he could have a couple throws back, but what can you do when your only receivers are 5 foot tall.

    All this Manziel hate just oozes from jealousy. Why don't you guys talk about somebody who deserves some hate, I don't know, maybe like Dwayne Bowe. That guy got more money in one season doing nothing than Manziel is going to make his entire rookie contract. Get off his fucking nuts. Gawd.

    Manziel is going to be and should be the Starting QB next year, get used to it. If you don't like it... find another team to root for. Support your fucking QB.

    Everybody wants to take shots and Manziel is an easy target, hope that bogus vegas story got lots of hits and made the faggot who made it up a nice chunk of change. Don't believe everything on the internet.

    @poeticg said:

    If you don't have haters you're doing it wrong.

    Manziel is going to be a Maniac next season with some actual recievers, ala the best in the game, Josh Gordon. If the Browns can find another TE and develop Pryor some more, add in Benjamin if he resigns and land a god damn FB... you can pretty much count on a playoff berth. Manziel had one game that he wishes he could have a couple throws back, but what can you do when your only receivers are 5 foot tall.

    All this Manziel hate just oozes from jealousy. Why don't you guys talk about somebody who deserves some hate, I don't know, maybe like Dwayne Bowe. That guy got more money in one season doing nothing than Manziel is going to make his entire rookie contract. Get off his fucking nuts. Gawd.

    Manziel is going to be and should be the Starting QB next year, get used to it. If you don't like it... find another team to root for. Support your fucking QB.

    Everybody wants to take shots and Manziel is an easy target, hope that bogus vegas story got lots of hits and made the faggot who made it up a nice chunk of change. Don't believe everything on the internet.

    man are you on some good drugs....you need to call lil chonnie and have him join in....you can become drug bro's

  • Correct... they did pick up the 2016 option. I got that wrong. But since he was not injured during 2015, the option year is no longer guaranteed. So he can be cut without cost to the Redskins and that will be the end of the $16MM price tag.

    I think this starts on March 15th this year, but must be done no later than June 1st.

    Earlier this year, the Washington Redskins exercised an option to sign quarterback Robert Griffin III for the 2016 season.

    And in the upside down world of NFL contracts, that move essentially ensured that he'd be benched or cut in 2015.

    Here's why it works out that way: The $16.2 million for 2016 is not guaranteed -- unless the injury-prone RG3 gets injured. No injury, and the Redskins can cut him loose. Riding the bench, of course, is the best way to keep him healthy.

    http://money.cnn.com/2015/09/01/news/companies/rg3-contract/

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  • Even after RG3 is cut I do believe whoever he signs with his contract will still be large than Johnny Manziel current contract (less that $5 mil total for the next 2 years) but nowhere near 8 figures per year.
    "You see the Rams are still thinking that they are playing Tony Dorsett" -Jim Brown 1978

  • May well be, but it is all subject to negotiation... same with JM if no one trades for him and he ends up being cut.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • PoeticGP PoeticG

    Manziel is a beast. Can't wait to see him start the first game with Josh Gordon, going to be an epic win.

    @poeticg said:

    Manziel is the least . Can't wait to see him start the first game with Josh Gordon, going to be an epic win.

    You didn't learn with mega-bust Trent? If LeBron dumped him- maybe, possibly you should too?

    Johnny Juicer has played his last snap for the Browns.

    Mark OM 1 Reply
  • PoeticGP PoeticG

    If you don't have haters you're doing it wrong.

    Manziel is going to be a Maniac next season with some actual recievers, ala the best in the game, Josh Gordon. If the Browns can find another TE and develop Pryor some more, add in Benjamin if he resigns and land a god damn FB... you can pretty much count on a playoff berth. Manziel had one game that he wishes he could have a couple throws back, but what can you do when your only receivers are 5 foot tall.

    All this Manziel hate just oozes from jealousy. Why don't you guys talk about somebody who deserves some hate, I don't know, maybe like Dwayne Bowe. That guy got more money in one season doing nothing than Manziel is going to make his entire rookie contract. Get off his fucking nuts. Gawd.

    Manziel is going to be and should be the Starting QB next year, get used to it. If you don't like it... find another team to root for. Support your fucking QB.

    Everybody wants to take shots and Manziel is an easy target, hope that bogus vegas story got lots of hits and made the faggot who made it up a nice chunk of change. Don't believe everything on the internet.

    @poeticg said:

    If you don't have haters you're doing it wrong.

    Manziel is going to be a Maniac next season with some actual recievers, ala the best in the game, Josh Gordon. If the Browns can find another TE and develop Pryor some more, add in Benjamin if he resigns and land a god damn FB... you can pretty much count on a playoff berth. Manziel had one game that he wishes he could have a couple throws back, but what can you do when your only receivers are 5 foot tall.

    All this Manziel hate just oozes from jealousy. Why don't you guys talk about somebody who deserves some hate, I don't know, maybe like Dwayne Bowe. That guy got more money in one season doing nothing than Manziel is going to make his entire rookie contract. Get off his fucking nuts. Gawd.

    Manziel is going to be and should be the Starting QB next year, get used to it. If you don't like it... find another team to root for. Support your fucking QB.

    Everybody wants to take shots and Manziel is an easy target, hope that bogus vegas story got lots of hits and made the faggot who made it up a nice chunk of change. Don't believe everything on the internet.

    Nope PG, here's a factoid. LeBron's Agency dumped him- you should too- like 99+% of guys who see Manziel has serious off-field issues.

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @browns52 said:

    never saw anyone on concussion protocol put on a wig and mustache.....man o man...

    Purely therapeutic... keep the head and upper lip warm... and the shades fight light sensitivity...

    As for "Billy"... memory loss induced name confusion is a classic symptom...

    Never have made excuses for him like Steve and others here (past and present) have, so thought I'd take a shot while I still can.

    Hi, Steve... πŸ˜‰

    @hoorta said:

    I sorta threw up when the pick was announced. Fact.

    I was crestfallen, but managed to keep my streak alive...

    @tour2ma said:

    Purely therapeutic... keep the head and upper lip warm... and the shades fight light sensitivity...

    As for "Billy"... memory loss induced name confusion is a classic symptom...

    Never have made excuses for him like Steve and others here (past and present) have, so thought I'd take a shot while I still can.

    Hi, Steve... πŸ˜‰

    β˜†β˜†β˜†Hiβ˜†β˜†β˜†

    I was crestfallen, but managed to keep my streak alive...

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  • RichiswhereR Richiswhere

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    I read where Pettine might have been parsing language about this. Pettine said Manziel was not drunk Tuesday at the facility. It was Wednesday when Manziel was alleged to have been drunk.

    Grossi asked coach Mike Pettine, who was fired Sunday, about whether the alleged incident occurred Tuesday.

    β€œHe denied that that happened on Tuesday,” Grossi said. β€œBut other people I’ve talked to said that it happened the next day, on Wednesday.”

    http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2016/01/04/johnny-manziel-browns-inebriated-report/

    Why in the fuck would you ask if it happened on Tuesday knowing the day in question was Wednesday?

    Now on a side note if Johnny was drunk and sent home could the Browns get in trouble about lying on the injury report?

    @richiswhere said:

    Why in the fuck would you ask if it happened on Tuesday knowing the day in question was Wednesday?Now on a side note if Johnny was drunk and sent home could the Browns get in trouble about lying on the injury report?

    perhaps Pettine said "ok Grossi you can ask me one thing but i'm not answering any questions regarding Wednesday".

    you're not a dummy, you already know the answer to the second one.

  • Mark OM Mark O

    One Post From the Truth said:

    4.6 mil dead cap hit if you do. Better trade or keep him. Either way he's getting paid.

    The cap hit is a problem. I couldn't give a shit less if he gets paid. I just want him off the roster. Screw burying him on IR or making him a healthy scratch. He's a continual distraction and one that needs to go away. I'd much prefer to not having the Browns in the news because we're boring than being the talk of the league because of fucking Retard midget QB. Try to trade him to Dallas and if they won't give up anything for him...fuck him and release him.

    @mark-o said:

    He's a continual distraction and one that needs to go away. I'd much prefer to not having the Browns in the news because we're boring than being the talk of the league because of fucking Retarded midget QB.

    if they draft Goff and Johnny is no longer viewed as the Browns future starter and is buried on the depth chart then Johnny becomes the joke.

    they don't have to cut him to cut their losses, they just have to take the power back. he's not bigger than the organization. time to give him a reality check and humble his ass. if he's a third stringer and acts up he becomes the punchline not the Browns. show we don't care and he gets all the fallout and bad press instead of the team.

    you gotta play the game. cutting him or trading him benefits him. there is better revenge to wishing him hurt. hoping to put him on IR isn't realistic.

    patience folks, just give it a little time and he'll either violate the substance abuse policy or get suspended on his own. saves money, saves roster spot, saves face, and best of all saves the last laugh for us.

    one thing 19 years in food taught me: when shit goes south unexpectedly, it simply creates a new opportunity.

    Tour2maT 1 Reply
  • One PostO One Post

    @mark-o said:

    The cap hit is a problem. I couldn't give a shit less if he gets paid. I just want him off the roster. Screw burying him on IR or making him a healthy scratch. He's a continual distraction and one that needs to go away. I'd much prefer to not having the Browns in the news because we're boring than being the talk of the league because of fucking Retard midget QB. Try to trade him to Dallas and if they won't give up anything for him...fuck him and release him.

    Couldn't agree more, gay pornstars get paid too and I don't want them on the Browns either.

    "One said:

    Couldn't agree more, gay pornstars get paid too and I don't want them on the Browns either.

    ^^ WTF is this??

    i'm not homosexual, homoflexible, bisexual, heteroflexible, or even bicurious (no doubt some new terms for all you homophobes out there to learn), i'm just a tolerant libertarian who doesn't want it flaunted in my face without the option of not seeing it.

    BUT if the most bored-out flamboyant Liberace dressing lisping limp-wrister of all time was a tough as nails top 5 player at his position happened to become a Brown, i could not care less and would support them no problem.

    OPFTT sadly you are not alone in your prejudice within this fanbase. i would just like to point out studies show this behavior stems from either fear, or suppressing true feelings. just some food for thought.

  • C cuwoohio

    We have a Harvard Law Grad handling our salary cap and making personnel decisions. If he weighs the options, even he can see the best idea is just to get rid of him asap

    @cuwoohio said:

    We have a Harvard Law Grad handling our salary cap and making personnel decisions. If he weighs the options, even he can see the best idea is just to get rid of him asap

    in your idea of the best idea the Browns are the only losers while everyone else involved wins, subjecting the Browns and the fanbase to EVEN MORE ridicule and embarrassment.

    time to simply turn the other cheek and allow the Tri-Lambs to spin this thing back into our favor. it's pretty hard to poke fun at someone who doesn't care.

    hoortaH 1 Reply

  • last post i'm gonna make in this thread, love ya Opal but Oprah isn't coming out of retirement for any Shitshows...not even Captain Shitshow. BUT, VH1 Flavor of Love equivalent? perhaps, perhaps, perhaps...

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