Browns Foundation Players (decent read actually)
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For sure this was better written than mine
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In terms of the talent search, I think Thomas stays, especially if Mack and Schwartz go. Then you retain four guys (JT, Bit, Erving, Greco) to start on the OL and only have one hole to fill.
It'd be great to pick up our next/first superstar QB in the draft, but I would be happy rolling with McCown next year and just getting good players, rather than trying to force something that isn't there. McCown isn't going to win us a superbowl, but he's reasonable enough to get us to a decent record with better play all around.
Fun fact - this year the browns threw for over 4000 yards, and 20 TDs to 12 INTs. Our INT percentage was among the lowest in the league. We also had two guys get around a thousand yards receiving. Now, that was supposed to be the weak spot on the team, right? So if the line plays up to its ability, not down to it's franchise average, and we get some run game going, things start getting interesting on O. If the D plays up to its price tag, things start getting *seriously* interesting.
It all of course depends on the head coach, of course, and the ability to put players in positions to utilise their talent - nobody in the NFL, not even Kruger, Bademosi, Bowe, Manziel or Gilbert, is completely talentless. For every player there's a reason they are in the league.
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On the interception percentage - Josh McBrown's is 1.4%. That's nestled neatly alongside Aaron Rodgers and Brandon Weeden, both also on 1.4%
http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/quarterback-interception-rates/2015/
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The picture looks pretty bleak if we fail in the draft.
I said before if we get 2013 versions of Gordon, Gipson, Haden, Mack then things look a lot better for us. Especially if we get the 2015 Benji - but keeping Gipson, Mack, and Benji is questonable at this point. Getting Haden, Gipson, Mack back to their pro bowl level might be equally questionable.
I really, really hope we keep Schwartz...Another homegrown talent I'd hate to see walk for nothing.
Dansby will probably stay next year because what's the alternative - we probably have bigger needs to fill this year than finding his replacement - unless there's a lower end guy we think can develop into a solid center piece. I see QB/DE/OLB with picks #2/#32 as it sits right now.
McCown is staying no matter what, but I also see us drafting a QB no matter what - likely there at #2 overall. He was very smart with the football this year and is more than good enough to win football games - he's just a couple years from retirement though. Great guy to have in a Browns uni - more of a player-coach.
Shelton has all the makings to develop into a solid anchor on the DL - despite the haters. A bit more practice on technique and maybe hitting the weights in an off season might see a supreme sophomore year.
Many of the others are TBD...but I like some of the things we've seen from Orchard, Cooper, Desir, DJohnson, and Kirksey
Really I don't think the picture is as bleak or the sky is falling as much as everyone seems to think. We're not 1 year away, but we aren't 5 either from being competitive in the division.
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Another thing to consider is that if Schwartz leaves, we will be in position to draft either Bosa or, more pertinently, Laremy Tunsil, the consensus top tackle in the draft. He could slot in at RT, giving us the eventual successor to JT when he retires, or is traded.
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Another thing to consider is that if Schwartz leaves, we will be in position to draft either Bosa or, more pertinently, Laremy Tunsil, the consensus top tackle in the draft. He could slot in at RT, giving us the eventual successor to JT when he retires, or is traded.
Another thing to consider is that if Schwartz leaves, we will be in position to draft either Bosa or, more pertinently, Laremy Tunsil, the consensus top tackle in the draft. He could slot in at RT, giving us the eventual successor to JT when he retires, or is traded.
My boner is for Goff, but the Titans are proably about 50/50 for Tunsil/Bosa. I see them leaning towards Tunsil but who knows.
Regardless, it'd suck to have to draft a high-end OT prospect to replace one that we let walk in FA.
Bitonio very well may be JT's successor when he asks for a trade or retires, too. Erving would likely be Mack's successor - given our current roster anyway.
I dig Calhoun at #32 at the moment as well as a Bosa consolation prize, but he may not fall that far.
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Another thing to consider is that if Schwartz leaves, we will be in position to draft either Bosa or, more pertinently, Laremy Tunsil, the consensus top tackle in the draft. He could slot in at RT, giving us the eventual successor to JT when he retires, or is traded.
Another thing to consider is that if Schwartz leaves, we will be in position to draft either Bosa or, more pertinently, Laremy Tunsil, the consensus top tackle in the draft. He could slot in at RT, giving us the eventual successor to JT when he retires, or is traded.
Ya know, I didn't even think about that, and it's worth considering. It might not be a sexy pick, but it would be vital to both our running game and the eventual progression of a young QB (whenever we take one). To your previous post, I too am more than happy to roll with McCown rather than "force" an early draft pick for a QB UNLESS we absolutely love one.
I would also trade back in the draft, but NOT very far. I don't see this happening this year unless somebody falls in love with either Goff or Lynch, but it's a possibility. I wouldn't go further back than around the 10-12 range.
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For a while my draft wants have been:
1. Bosa
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Maybe Goff
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Meh
If Bosa's not there, I'm all about trading down. You can probably pick up a great player down until about #5 - Bosa, Tunsil, Hargreaves, Ramsay, and previously Jaylon Smith would be good value. As it is, there are some good players available, though depending on how we handle free agency, not necessarily at a position of great need.
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I think all Superbowl teams are built on defense first. I really like Cooper's and Orchard's upsides and agree with the article that adding Bosa to that mix along with Selton really gives us a huge upside. The hard decision will be at pick #2 for us. If we trust Josh Gordon then a later round WR makes sense. Of course I still think adding Henry as a power inside player opens this offense up because he has to be accounted for every play running, receiving or blocking. In the game tonight take a look at his pass blocking skills. Nothing to sneeze at and something our team lacks totally with our current backs who tend to get run over in route to the QB.
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I think all Superbowl teams are built on defense first. I really like Cooper's and Orchard's upsides and agree with the article that adding Bosa to that mix along with Selton really gives us a huge upside. The hard decision will be at pick #2 for us. If we trust Josh Gordon then a later round WR makes sense. Of course I still think adding Henry as a power inside player opens this offense up because he has to be accounted for every play running, receiving or blocking. In the game tonight take a look at his pass blocking skills. Nothing to sneeze at and something our team lacks totally with our current backs who tend to get run over in route to the QB.
... pass blocking skills... something our team lacks totally with our current backs who tend to get run over in route to the QB.
Not even close to true, Ag...
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The word "Foundation" should not be lumped with "Manziel" .
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The word "Foundation" should not be lumped with "Manziel" .
It's not...
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... pass blocking skills... something our team lacks totally with our current backs who tend to get run over in route to the QB.
Not even close to true, Ag...
Not even close to true, Ag...
Seems several times a game our RB's got run over or slipped right past. Did I miss something this season? Seems like multiple times I recall our QB getting his clock cleaned and either the RB was not there when he should have been or had one of the other two options happen. At any rate Henry has been trained by a pro coach to be a real blocking asset on plays when he does not carry the ball. And in his case size & strength do matter-a lot.
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