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  • jrb12711J jrb12711

    @richiswhere said:

    Well Rodgers did say he calls opposite of how the coin is laying on the referees hand.

    Eh, I still don't buy it. I think the ref did the right thing because the first flip was completely unfair.

    @andeftw said:

    Refs were horrible in yesterdays game. Missed a clear offensive pass interference on the 3rd down where the Cardinals scored the go-ahead TD. Should have been 3rd&goal from around the 15, and it was clear as day since the receiver didn't even try to run a route, started blocking the Packers DB immediately.

    They also missed a clear pass interference on the Cards DB on a 3rd&5 with 3 minutes left in the game that would have given us a first down. Instead Rodgers bounced a pass on 4th down and we gave up a field goal to go down 7.

    The refs aren't the reason the Packers lost of the game, and I'm sure there were plenty of plays which went against Arizona which weren't shown during the broadcast, but the officiating was bad all night.

    I've been saying all year the refs have just been bad. Games have been decided on bad calls, and I think the central issue is rules are way, way too complicated. Refs are watching for 100 things and calls are getting missed. Don't even get me started on what the hell a catch is.

    The NFL needs to do three things this offseason hopefully:

    -Simplify the rules especially on what counts as a catch

    -Make NFL refs actual full-time employees

    -Add one more ref per crew to specifically watch secondary play.

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    Canton MikeC Canton Mike wrote on last edited by
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    @jrb12711 said:

    Eh, I still don't buy it. I think the ref did the right thing because the first flip was completely unfair.

    I've been saying all year the refs have just been bad. Games have been decided on bad calls, and I think the central issue is rules are way, way too complicated. Refs are watching for 100 things and calls are getting missed. Don't even get me started on what the hell a catch is.

    The NFL needs to do three things this offseason hopefully:

    -Simplify the rules especially on what counts as a catch

    -Make NFL refs actual full-time employees

    -Add one more ref per crew to specifically watch secondary play.

    Bingo!

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    • andeftwA andeftw

      @sisky-fringo said:

      amazed by refs? seriously? elaborate please.

      and none of the old "hypnotized by zebras as a young boycubpiglet" retread, everyone and his brother has used that one to death this week...

      - just another NFL conspiracy theorist

      Refs were horrible in yesterdays game. Missed a clear offensive pass interference on the 3rd down where the Cardinals scored the go-ahead TD. Should have been 3rd&goal from around the 15, and it was clear as day since the receiver didn't even try to run a route, started blocking the Packers DB immediately.

      They also missed a clear pass interference on the Cards DB on a 3rd&5 with 3 minutes left in the game that would have given us a first down. Instead Rodgers bounced a pass on 4th down and we gave up a field goal to go down 7.

      The refs aren't the reason the Packers lost of the game, and I'm sure there were plenty of plays which went against Arizona which weren't shown during the broadcast, but the officiating was bad all night.

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      KvoetheK Kvoethe wrote on last edited by
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      @andeftw said:

      Refs were horrible in yesterdays game. Missed a clear offensive pass interference

      on the 3rd down where the Cardinals scored the go-ahead TD. Should have been 3rd&goal from around the 15, and it was clear as day since the receiver didn't even try to run a route, started blocking the Packers DB immediately.

      They also missed a clear pass interference on the Cards DB on a 3rd&5 with 3 minutes left in the game that would have given us a first down. Instead Rodgers bounced a pass on 4th down and we gave up a field goal to go down 7.

      The refs aren't the reason the Packers lost of the game, and I'm sure there were plenty of plays which went against Arizona which weren't shown during the broadcast, but the officiating was bad all night.

      Amendolas hit was just as dirty as burfects...have to see what happens...nothing i guess.

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      • bbedwardB bbedward

        Blaming the loss on the coin toss is silly.

        It was a good game, Cards won because they're the better team despite the fact Carson had some bad red zone moments (overthrew probable TD pass, interception)

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        KvoetheK Kvoethe wrote on last edited by
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        @bbedward said:

        Blaming the loss on the coin toss is silly.

        It was a good game, Cards won because they're the better team despite the fact Carson had some bad red zone moments (overthrew probable TD pass, interception)

        I wasnt blaming...but im sure it will be a story to pine on in GB.

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          @bbedward said:

          Blaming the loss on the coin toss is silly.

          It was a good game, Cards won because they're the better team despite the fact Carson had some bad red zone moments (overthrew probable TD pass, interception)

          I wasnt blaming...but im sure it will be a story to pine on in GB.

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          bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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          @kvoethe said:

          I wasnt blaming...but im sure it will be a story to pine on in GB.

          I know, I'm just saying it would be ridiculous if this became a thing 😛

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          • jrb12711J jrb12711

            The "good" news is the Cardinals would have won the toss in either scenario. I know Aaron Rodgers said he would have changed his call to heads but I doubt that seriously. That was a 30 for 30 documentary game in the making if the Cards win the whole thing though.

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            Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma
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            @jrb12711 said:

            The "good" news is the Cardinals would have won the toss in either scenario.

            Why is this escaping people?

            And fuck, Rogers... he got the reflip and, since it was not a call-it-in-the-air situation, his original call stands.

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              @jrb12711 said:

              The "good" news is the Cardinals would have won the toss in either scenario.

              Why is this escaping people?

              And fuck, Rogers... he got the reflip and, since it was not a call-it-in-the-air situation, his original call stands.

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              RichiswhereR Richiswhere wrote on last edited by
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              @tour2ma said:

              Why is this escaping people?

              And fuck, Rogers... he got the reflip and, since it was not a call-it-in-the-air situation, his original call stands.

              Again another person who doesn't seem to get it...Rodgers calls the flip opposite of the way the coin is laying in the refs hand. As you seen on the first flip Rodgers was eyeballing the coin like no ones business and you seen the coin did not rotate at all so he complained. If you are going to reflip the coin because of the refs error then you damn sure better let the vistors remake their call. The NFL will come out and tell you this was an error by the official and that he was wrong which will mean that you are wrong as well.
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                @tour2ma said:

                Why is this escaping people?

                And fuck, Rogers... he got the reflip and, since it was not a call-it-in-the-air situation, his original call stands.

                Again another person who doesn't seem to get it...Rodgers calls the flip opposite of the way the coin is laying in the refs hand. As you seen on the first flip Rodgers was eyeballing the coin like no ones business and you seen the coin did not rotate at all so he complained. If you are going to reflip the coin because of the refs error then you damn sure better let the vistors remake their call. The NFL will come out and tell you this was an error by the official and that he was wrong which will mean that you are wrong as well.
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                RichiswhereR Richiswhere wrote on last edited by
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                @richiswhere said:

                The NFL will come out and tell you this was an error by the official and that he was wrong which will mean that you are wrong as well.

                Ouch the only person that was wrong here was me
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                  @bbedward said:

                  Blaming the loss on the coin toss is silly.

                  It was a good game, Cards won because they're the better team despite the fact Carson had some bad red zone moments (overthrew probable TD pass, interception)

                  I wasnt blaming...but im sure it will be a story to pine on in GB.

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                  andeftwA andeftw wrote on last edited by
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                  @kvoethe said:

                  I wasnt blaming...but im sure it will be a story to pine on in GB.

                  No complaining about the toss in GB...it's not the reason we lost.

                  What you'll hear in GB is plenty of frustration since it's the second time in a row we've outplayed the home team in the playoffs and lost.

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                    ManzierM Manzier wrote on last edited by
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                    If GB wanted to win, they should have put a man on Fitzgerald. He was as open as a WR can be. They deserved to lose.

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                      If GB wanted to win, they should have put a man on Fitzgerald. He was as open as a WR can be. They deserved to lose.

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                      andeftwA andeftw wrote on last edited by
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                      @manzier said:

                      If GB wanted to win, they should have put a man on Fitzgerald. He was as open as a WR can be. They deserved to lose.

                      Zone defense and blown assignment a foreign concept to you?

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                      • RichiswhereR Richiswhere

                        @richiswhere said:

                        The NFL will come out and tell you this was an error by the official and that he was wrong which will mean that you are wrong as well.

                        Ouch the only person that was wrong here was me
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                        Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                        @richiswhere said:

                        Ouch the only person that was wrong here was me

                        I can live with that... 😉

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                        • andeftwA andeftw

                          @kvoethe said:

                          I wasnt blaming...but im sure it will be a story to pine on in GB.

                          No complaining about the toss in GB...it's not the reason we lost.

                          What you'll hear in GB is plenty of frustration since it's the second time in a row we've outplayed the home team in the playoffs and lost.

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                          bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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                          @andeftw said:

                          No complaining about the toss in GB...it's not the reason we lost.

                          What you'll hear in GB is plenty of frustration since it's the second time in a row we've outplayed the home team in the playoffs and lost.

                          Not sure GB outplayed AZ. If Palmer doesn't have a bad day in the red zone then there wouldn't be any overtime

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                            @andeftw said:

                            No complaining about the toss in GB...it's not the reason we lost.

                            What you'll hear in GB is plenty of frustration since it's the second time in a row we've outplayed the home team in the playoffs and lost.

                            Not sure GB outplayed AZ. If Palmer doesn't have a bad day in the red zone then there wouldn't be any overtime

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                            andeftwA andeftw wrote on last edited by
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                            @bbedward said:

                            Not sure GB outplayed AZ. If Palmer doesn't have a bad day in the red zone then there wouldn't be any overtime

                            hmmm...if Sam Shields doesn't drop 3 picks the Cardinals score 10 points in the entire game...

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                              @bbedward said:

                              Not sure GB outplayed AZ. If Palmer doesn't have a bad day in the red zone then there wouldn't be any overtime

                              hmmm...if Sam Shields doesn't drop 3 picks the Cardinals score 10 points in the entire game...

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                              bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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                              @andeftw said:

                              hmmm...if Sam Shields doesn't drop 3 picks the Cardinals score 10 points in the entire game...

                              I really don't care that much, it was a good game I just don't see the cardinals as getting outplayed really.

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                                @bbedward said:

                                Not sure GB outplayed AZ. If Palmer doesn't have a bad day in the red zone then there wouldn't be any overtime

                                hmmm...if Sam Shields doesn't drop 3 picks the Cardinals score 10 points in the entire game...

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                                @andeftw said:

                                hmmm...if Sam Shields doesn't drop 3 picks the Cardinals score 10 points in the entire game...

                                Yeah well he didn't pick them and green bay lost

                                Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                  If one play had gone our way for the last sixteen years we'd be a lot better than we are. If wishes were horses then beggars would ride.

                                  Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...
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                                  • RichiswhereR Richiswhere

                                    @richiswhere said:

                                    The NFL will come out and tell you this was an error by the official and that he was wrong which will mean that you are wrong as well.

                                    Ouch the only person that was wrong here was me
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                                    jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by
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                                    @richiswhere said:

                                    Ouch the only person that was wrong here was me

                                    I guess you learned a pretty stupidly obvious lesson about not assuming huh?

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                                      cdl15C cdl15 wrote on last edited by
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                                      Anyone else hear Chris Colinsworth totally blowing Rodgers at the end of that game. Even gave him credit for having the focus to call out bad coin toss.

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                                        @richiswhere said:

                                        Ouch the only person that was wrong here was me

                                        I guess you learned a pretty stupidly obvious lesson about not assuming huh?

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                                        RichiswhereR Richiswhere wrote on last edited by
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                                        @jrb12711 said:

                                        I guess you learned a pretty stupidly obvious lesson about not assuming huh?

                                        What do you mean?
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                                        • RichiswhereR Richiswhere

                                          @tour2ma said:

                                          Why is this escaping people?

                                          And fuck, Rogers... he got the reflip and, since it was not a call-it-in-the-air situation, his original call stands.

                                          Again another person who doesn't seem to get it...Rodgers calls the flip opposite of the way the coin is laying in the refs hand. As you seen on the first flip Rodgers was eyeballing the coin like no ones business and you seen the coin did not rotate at all so he complained. If you are going to reflip the coin because of the refs error then you damn sure better let the vistors remake their call. The NFL will come out and tell you this was an error by the official and that he was wrong which will mean that you are wrong as well.
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                                          jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by
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                                          @richiswhere said:

                                          Again another person who doesn't seem to get it...Rodgers calls the flip opposite of the way the coin is laying in the refs hand. As you seen on the first flip Rodgers was eyeballing the coin like no ones business and you seen the coin did not rotate at all so he complained. If you are going to reflip the coin because of the refs error then you damn sure better let the vistors remake their call. The NFL will come out and tell you this was an error by the official and that he was wrong which will mean that you are wrong as well.

                                          While you admitted you were wrong it looks pretty stupid to call someone out as wrong without remotely knowing the facts..

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