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  • So... are you a cover32 contributor or a contractor paid to generate site traffic?

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out

    @tour2ma said:

    Not seeing much of any example in the Pro vid... the one roll-out by Brees he's still drifting slightly backwards and throws when that case do tend to be back-foot throws.

    With Prescott it's just a feeling of an improvement path he's on continuing. It may be years before he has success. He may never have success. Right now he's simply my highest value sleeper candidate, but I will be checking out more. Dak seems to be getting more Day 2 ratings than even I thought he's get at this point. I initially thought he might be an early Day 3 guy.

    Every year I try to find at least one QB prospect down the board whose potential seems to outweigh their ranking...

    Last year it was Bryce Petty R4...

    2014 was AJ McCarron R5...

    2013 was no one...

    2012 was Tannehill until he took off, then it was Foles R3.

    There are a couple prior, but I did not put in much time or effort pre-2011.

    Not a great display of prognostication, but not completely suck-ass either (with a lot of TBD)... at least until you see Foles was taken between Russell Wilson and Kirk Cousins... 😮

    Not drafting Petty really hurt me.

    I'm tentatively looking in on Frohnapfel and Doughty, but haven't watched anything on them yet. Just like what I saw on paper.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Not drafting Petty really hurt me.

    I'm tentatively looking in on Frohnapfel and Doughty, but haven't watched anything on them yet. Just like what I saw on paper.

    Frohnapfel plays sat. Shrine Bowl NFL Network

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  • cover32Browns said:

    What do you think about the Browns going after Cousins or RG3? My guess, they will draft Goff with the 2nd pick.

    http://cover32.com/2016/01/21/nfl-draft-2016-cleveland-browns-select/

    http://cover32.com/2016/01/15/you-like-that-kirk-cousins-playing-for-cleveland-makes-sense/

    Cousins isn't going ANYWHERE. Look at his stats for the last ten games of the season. Washington isn't letting that guy go, promise.

    As far as RGIII...I think we're looking at a Colin Kaepernick type situation. NFL defenses caught up to the "read option" nonsense, and RG III will have to prove both that he can stay healthy, and that he can operate a typical NFL offense. I'm not a pro scout, and I don't have the faintest idea whether he has the tools to work in Hue Jackson's system. My guess is that he doesn't, but it's just a guess.

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @westside-steve said:

    I guess in a way I would agree with Gipper but then Tour is a guy who knows his shit and if he thinks Goff is the third best in 5 or 10 years I at least consider it. Who is a guy who knows his shit and if he thinks Goff is the third best in 5 or 10 years I at least consider it.

    Aw shucks... and thanks, but give due credit to bb who was on Goff first here.

    Still working my way through the QB candidates (with Wentz next in the queue), but so far Goff is the guy. I see nothing below average in him. Arm has a 55-yard-ish range. Everything else is above average with his head leading the way. I see football smarts easily a match for Winston with no signs of the baggage. Leadership? Last big unknown...

    So far Lynch is a distant 2nd. Just the opposite results from Goff. Big advantages in all the throwing measures, but his head is well short of where a Pro QB needs to be.

    Prescott is still my 2015 value, dark-horse, leader in the clubhouse. If I wanted this draft's best chance to emerge as a Russell Wilson clone...

    @tour2ma said:

    Aw shucks... and thanks, but give due credit to bb who was on Goff first here.

    Still working my way through the QB candidates (with Wentz next in the queue), but so far Goff is the guy. I see nothing below average in him. Arm has a 55-yard-ish range. Everything else is above average with his head leading the way. I see football smarts easily a match for Winston with no signs of the baggage. Leadership? Last big unknown...

    So far Lynch is a distant 2nd. Just the opposite results from Goff. Big advantages in all the throwing measures, but his head is well short of where a Pro QB needs to be.

    Prescott is still my 2015 value, dark-horse, leader in the clubhouse. If I wanted this draft's best chance to emerge as a Russell Wilson clone...

    Well we certainly have our Hasselbeck in place.

  • How about Sam Bradford? There's an article on PFF about his potential landing spots and they mention us. (I'd link it but this crappy laptop never wants to paste.)

  • W wargograw

    How about Sam Bradford? There's an article on PFF about his potential landing spots and they mention us. (I'd link it but this crappy laptop never wants to paste.)

    @wargograw said:

    How about Sam Bradford? There's an article on PFF about his potential landing spots and they mention us. (I'd link it but this crappy laptop never wants to paste.)

    I wouldn't be devastated, I think he's probably got decent value coming off a 'meh' season in an offense not suited to his skills. Signing him of course frees us up to get Bosa in the draft.

  • For all the crap you guys give the Johnny fans you sure do spend a lot of time getting boners over the bumss of the league.

    WSS

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  • W Westside Steve

    For all the crap you guys give the Johnny fans you sure do spend a lot of time getting boners over the bumss of the league.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    For all the crap you guys give the Johnny fans you sure do spend a lot of time getting boners over the bumss of the league.

    WSS

    The crap Johnny gets is not related to talent, for the most part.

  • gftChrisG gftChris

    @westside-steve said:

    For all the crap you guys give the Johnny fans you sure do spend a lot of time getting boners over the bumss of the league.

    WSS

    The crap Johnny gets is not related to talent, for the most part.

    @gftchris said:

    The crap Johnny gets is not related to talent, for the most part.

    That's true. Which is the reason I think that clamoring for the bums is a little bit silly.

    WSS

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  • Bradford ain't no bum though. TCPO has been arguing Wentz + Bosa/whoever is the way to go. Well how about the Bradford + Bosa/whoever + the 32 pick? I like the play.

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  • W wargograw

    Bradford ain't no bum though. TCPO has been arguing Wentz + Bosa/whoever is the way to go. Well how about the Bradford + Bosa/whoever + the 32 pick? I like the play.

    @wargograw said:

    Bradford ain't no bum though. TCPO has been arguing Wentz + Bosa/whoever is the way to go. Well how about the Bradford + Bosa/whoever + the 32 pick? I like the play.

    Ok Bradford is God. The shitty Eagles won four more games than the Browns in one of the weakest dessert divisions in football.

    Still a losing record and the two teams below them are easy wins. Unlike the AFC North.

    So they would want to shitcanned Bradford (who made it clear he did not want to come to Cleveland) why?

    Kindnss and generosity?

    WSS

    www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons
  • W wargograw

    Bradford ain't no bum though. TCPO has been arguing Wentz + Bosa/whoever is the way to go. Well how about the Bradford + Bosa/whoever + the 32 pick? I like the play.

    @wargograw said:

    Bradford ain't no bum though. TCPO has been arguing Wentz + Bosa/whoever is the way to go. Well how about the Bradford + Bosa/whoever + the 32 pick? I like the play.

    Bradford is not bad but you better have a good backup. He has a pretty lengthy injury history.

  • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares

    @wargograw said:

    Bradford ain't no bum though. TCPO has been arguing Wentz + Bosa/whoever is the way to go. Well how about the Bradford + Bosa/whoever + the 32 pick? I like the play.

    Bradford is not bad but you better have a good backup. He has a pretty lengthy injury history.

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Bradford is not bad but you better have a good backup. He has a pretty lengthy injury history.

    We have some.

  • I don't see the risk-benefit payoff with Bradford.

    He has really only had half a season when he was threatening to breakout of the middling pack of NFL QBs... and then he missed a full year.

    Since then he failed to distinguish himself from the pack and found new ways to be injured.

    But then we all have our favorite "bums"... 😉

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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  • I dont think we should get rid of Manziel. He has on-field potential. The last thing we need is for him to go elsewhere and get his shit together. We dont need the couple mill, and you definitely wont find a better 3rd QB. Unless we can snag anything that matters in a trade we should keep him.

    Tour2maT LogicIsForSquaresL hoortaH 3 Replies
  • Flyin JF Flyin J

    I dont think we should get rid of Manziel. He has on-field potential. The last thing we need is for him to go elsewhere and get his shit together. We dont need the couple mill, and you definitely wont find a better 3rd QB. Unless we can snag anything that matters in a trade we should keep him.

    @flyin-j said:

    ... you definitely wont find a better 3rd QB.

    Third string QBs simply cannot be a source of distraction...

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • Flyin JF Flyin J

    I dont think we should get rid of Manziel. He has on-field potential. The last thing we need is for him to go elsewhere and get his shit together. We dont need the couple mill, and you definitely wont find a better 3rd QB. Unless we can snag anything that matters in a trade we should keep him.

    @flyin-j said:

    I dont think we should get rid of Manziel. He has on-field potential. The last thing we need is for him to go elsewhere and get his shit together. We dont need the couple mill, and you definitely wont find a better 3rd QB. Unless we can snag anything that matters in a trade we should keep him.

    I am sure a head coach isn't interested in having to answer questions as to why his third string QB is on TMZ drunk in an Applebee's with his dick out. Because that is the type of nonsense that Johnny brings. Not worth the head aches.

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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    I don't see the risk-benefit payoff with Bradford.

    He has really only had half a season when he was threatening to breakout of the middling pack of NFL QBs... and then he missed a full year.

    Since then he failed to distinguish himself from the pack and found new ways to be injured.

    But then we all have our favorite "bums"... 😉

    @tour2ma said:

    I don't see the risk-benefit payoff with Bradford.

    He has really only had half a season when he was threatening to breakout of the middling pack of NFL QBs... and then he missed a full year.

    Since then he failed to distinguish himself from the pack and found new ways to be injured.

    But then we all have our favorite "bums"... 😉

    We do, and after 5 years of undistinguished play I think you can make that call.

    WSS

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    Tour2maT 1 Reply

  • Stop dicking around with loser QBs

    That's what I think of Bradford.

  • bbedwardB bbedward

    Stop dicking around with loser QBs

    That's what I think of Bradford.

    @bbedward said:

    Stop dicking around with loser QBs

    That's what I think of Bradford.

    Yea, no, Bradford does nothing for me, at all. As a QB, hell, I think I would rather stick with JFF.

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