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  • In checking I see that I still have quite a number of "battlefield" or at least "war related" National Parks units which I have not been to. Here is a list of some I would like to visit at some point:

    Revolutionary War related sites: Boston NHP (Bunker Hill, Old North Church). George Rogers Clark (Indiana)

    War of 1812: Horseshoe Bend (really a battle with Creek Indians, but 1812 related)

    Civil War: Pea Ridge, Ark. Andersonville Ga. Ft. Scott Kan., Peco, New Mex.

    Indian Wars: Fort Smith Ark. Sand Creek Massacre, Colo. Fort Larned, Kan., Big Hole Battlefield, Mont., Washita Battlefield, Okla., Knife River, North Dak.

    WWII: Tuskeegee Airmen Ala, Port Chicago Cal. Rosie the Riveter Cal., War in the Pacific, Guam.. Minidoka, Idaho (Japanese Internment camp)

    Cold War: Minuteman Missile NHP, South Dakota.

    I will be visiting the Big Hole battlefield in a couple of weeks....plus I may make a return trip to The Little Bighorn.

    @the-gipper said:

    In checking I see that I still have quite a number of "battlefield" or at least "war related" National Parks units which I have not been to. Here is a list of some I would like to visit at some point:

    Revolutionary War related sites: Boston NHP (Bunker Hill, Old North Church). George Rogers Clark (Indiana)

    War of 1812: Horseshoe Bend (really a battle with Creek Indians, but 1812 related)

    Civil War: Pea Ridge, Ark. Andersonville Ga. Ft. Scott Kan., Peco, New Mex.

    Indian Wars: Fort Smith Ark. Sand Creek Massacre, Colo. Fort Larned, Kan., Big Hole Battlefield, Mont., Washita Battlefield, Okla., Knife River, North Dak.

    WWII: Tuskeegee Airmen Ala, Port Chicago Cal. Rosie the Riveter Cal., War in the Pacific, Guam.. Minidoka, Idaho (Japanese Internment camp)

    Cold War: Minuteman Missile NHP, South Dakota.

    I will be visiting the Big Hole battlefield in a couple of weeks....plus I may make a return trip to The Little Bighorn.

    I did visit the Big Hole Battlefield this past October....and made a repeat visit to The Little Bighorn.

    And I also plan to visit the Moore's Creek Battlefield in North Carolina....perhaps as soon as this coming Sunday (March 29, 2015)

    That is a Revolutionary War Battlefield.

    For those of you who mentioned Outer Banks/NC Coast sunrises.....I will be staying on a NC beach for a week starting Saturday. I will have to check out those sunrises/sunsets. Where I am staying they claim you can see the sun rise at one end of the beach and set at the other end.

  • Just last week I watched the sunset from Bali over the eastern volcanoes of Java. Chris

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    Say, is that like Sarah Palin can see Russia from her house? 😎

  • Are you talking about the MAPS Museum Cal? I thought that was a aviation museum...not strictly limited to WWII....unless we are thinking of something else? The old 356th Fighter Group restaurant is closed up now, no? Always liked that place.

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    Actually, yes. It does have a lot of WWII stuff. I misspoke. And yeah, that restaurant is closed. Couldn't compete

    with the Texas Roadhouses...

    btw, next time you get near that airport. Email me, we aren't all that far.....

  • @the-gipper said:

    In checking I see that I still have quite a number of "battlefield" or at least "war related" National Parks units which I have not been to. Here is a list of some I would like to visit at some point:

    Revolutionary War related sites: Boston NHP (Bunker Hill, Old North Church). George Rogers Clark (Indiana)

    War of 1812: Horseshoe Bend (really a battle with Creek Indians, but 1812 related)

    Civil War: Pea Ridge, Ark. Andersonville Ga. Ft. Scott Kan., Peco, New Mex.

    Indian Wars: Fort Smith Ark. Sand Creek Massacre, Colo. Fort Larned, Kan., Big Hole Battlefield, Mont., Washita Battlefield, Okla., Knife River, North Dak.

    WWII: Tuskeegee Airmen Ala, Port Chicago Cal. Rosie the Riveter Cal., War in the Pacific, Guam.. Minidoka, Idaho (Japanese Internment camp)

    Cold War: Minuteman Missile NHP, South Dakota.

    I will be visiting the Big Hole battlefield in a couple of weeks....plus I may make a return trip to The Little Bighorn.

    I did visit the Big Hole Battlefield this past October....and made a repeat visit to The Little Bighorn.

    And I also plan to visit the Moore's Creek Battlefield in North Carolina....perhaps as soon as this coming Sunday (March 29, 2015)

    That is a Revolutionary War Battlefield.

    For those of you who mentioned Outer Banks/NC Coast sunrises.....I will be staying on a NC beach for a week starting Saturday. I will have to check out those sunrises/sunsets. Where I am staying they claim you can see the sun rise at one end of the beach and set at the other end.

    @the-gipper said:

    I did visit the Big Hole Battlefield this past October....and made a repeat visit to The Little Bighorn.

    And I also plan to visit the Moore's Creek Battlefield in North Carolina....perhaps as soon as this coming Sunday (March 29, 2015)

    That is a Revolutionary War Battlefield.

    For those of you who mentioned Outer Banks/NC Coast sunrises.....I will be staying on a NC beach for a week starting Saturday. I will have to check out those sunrises/sunsets. Where I am staying they claim you can see the sun rise at one end of the beach and set at the other end.

    Is the outer banks far enough out to actually watch the sun set over the water to the west?

  • @the-gipper said:

    I did visit the Big Hole Battlefield this past October....and made a repeat visit to The Little Bighorn.

    And I also plan to visit the Moore's Creek Battlefield in North Carolina....perhaps as soon as this coming Sunday (March 29, 2015)

    That is a Revolutionary War Battlefield.

    For those of you who mentioned Outer Banks/NC Coast sunrises.....I will be staying on a NC beach for a week starting Saturday. I will have to check out those sunrises/sunsets. Where I am staying they claim you can see the sun rise at one end of the beach and set at the other end.

    Is the outer banks far enough out to actually watch the sun set over the water to the west?

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    Is the outer banks far enough out to actually watch the sun set over the water to the west?

    Parts of it certainly is. I took a ferry across Pamlico Sound and could not see land either to the east or to the west.

    FYI, I saw a sunrise....it wasn't all that. Just a sunrise over water....same as any eastern facing. Nothing to compare to Haleakala.

  • Sunrise on Mt. Fuji. Priceless.

  • Sunrise on Mt. Fuji. Priceless.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Sunrise on Mt. Fuji. Priceless.

    You mean in the Land of the Rising Sun? I am sure it would be.

  • @the-cysko-kid said:

    Is the outer banks far enough out to actually watch the sun set over the water to the west?

    Parts of it certainly is. I took a ferry across Pamlico Sound and could not see land either to the east or to the west.

    FYI, I saw a sunrise....it wasn't all that. Just a sunrise over water....same as any eastern facing. Nothing to compare to Haleakala.

    @the-gipper said:

    Parts of it certainly is. I took a ferry across Pamlico Sound and could not see land either to the east or to the west.

    FYI, I saw a sunrise....it wasn't all that. Just a sunrise over water....same as any eastern facing. Nothing to compare to Haleakala.

    The sunrise is different, if you got up early to see it, or you haven't gone to bed yet, and you saw it

  • People - I have tentative plans to visit Cedar Point for a few days later in the year (may get pushed to 2017). Obviously, swinging by for a Browns game is a must, but is there anything else in the area? I suspect we would end up flying in to detroit as it's direct for us, picking up a car and going from there, in a round trip. I suspect Niagara is on the list as well, and maybe Toronto.

    Anything I might not know about worth taking a look at? Nature and astronomy would be a big plus as well.

  • And maybe a visit to put in bay to see our resident musician in concert 😉

  • You can come by my place chris. I live about half hour from cedar point but I'm so far out in the sticks the stargazing is incredibly cLear and the sky is wide open. I have a pretty nice telescope as well.

    Well...I don't expect you'll take me up on that but if you're in the cedar point area the lake erie islands are right there and they're worth a day trip. Bonus: steve plays at put in bay a lot. As for nature, if you're in the Cleveland area you have the metroparks and the Cuyahoga valley but it's not, like, an American landmark or anything. Pretty nice though.

    I'd skip the rock hall but the pro football hall of fame is pretty close by in canton. An hour and a half from cedar point, perhaps.

  • Cedar point is the shit though. If you go on a day when the crowds aren't too heavy you're going to have a great time. Make sure you ride the millenium force.

  • Were I on my own I'd take you up on it for sure, but I'll be bringing a couple of friends at least. What telescope do you have? I'm relatively new to the field and just recently got my first proper pair of binoculars (and mount). Didn't want to go full on scope for hundreds of pounds if I wasn't sure I'd use it a lot. In London we have 'issues' with light pollution...

    The last 4 years or so a few friends and I have been visiting different theme parks, once per year. Started with the two biggest in the UK, then the two biggest non-disney ones in Europe (Port Aventura, Europa Park), but now we're short of ideas. It's either step down in size/quality and stay in Europe, or just fuck it and go big. My GF has always wanted to go to Cedar Point, so that ties in nicely with Cleveland football.

  • Cuyahoga valley looks very nice.

  • A meade. It essentially looks just like this

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  • Nice. What kind of things do you normally look for?

    We went to an event at the royal observatory in Greenwich (as in Greenwich mean time) where they had a few scopes set up, and binoculars to hand out to everyone, plus looking through the great equatorial telescope - that thing is massive! 28-inch refractor, the scope is 28 feet long. Not as powerful as modern telescopes of course, but still pretty impressive engineering for 150 years ago.

    http://www.rmg.co.uk/see-do/we-recommend/attractions/great-equatorial-telescope

  • Cuyahoga valley looks very nice.

    @gftchris said:

    Cuyahoga valley looks very nice.

    The Cuyahoga Valley is a gem. It is one of only 59 National Parks in America.

    As for your itinerary, if you are coming into Detroit, there are a number of things you can do while you are here.

    Taking somewhat of a "Lake Erie" Circle tour would be very cool:

    Start in Detroit where the Henry Ford Museum and Greenfield Village complex, which are right next to each other

    http://www.thehenryford.org/museum/index.aspx

    http://www.thehenryford.org/village/index.aspx

    The Motown Museum

    https://www.motownmuseum.org/

    Then run over to Put-in-Bay and then Cedar Point.

    https://www.putinbay.com/

    https://www.cedarpoint.com/

    Then, of course Cleveland. Beyond the game, yes the RRHOF IS a must place to see, no doubt.

    http://www.rockhall.com/

    (if you want to spend more time here there are a dozen other sites to see: Severance Hall, the Museum of Art both world class venues) and the rest of University Circle

    http://www.universitycircle.org/

    I don't know if you consider this "astronomy" but the NASA Glenn Research Center is by the Cleveland Airport (yes, after John Glenn). It is probably one of the 5 most important locations in the country when dealing with space.

    http://www.nasa.gov/centers/glenn/home/index.html

    The Cuyahoga Valley is a must place to see....particularly if you are into nature. You can see beaver ponds and everything. Great hiking.

    http://www.nps.gov/cuva/index.htm

    The Pro Football HOF is a must see for your group in Canton.

    http://www.profootballhof.com/

    Then roll up the coast of Lake Erie to Niagra.....you will even go through Buffalo on the way (and there are places to see there believe it or not). There are a number of things to see/do beyond the falls themselves in Niagra, including Old Fort Niagra...I was just there last summer.

    http://www.oldfortniagara.org/

    Then on to Toronto....world class city. We love to visit there.

    (I will let you do your own websearch Toronto)

    If you can get your flight into Detroit...and back out from Toronto that would be a way to do it. If not, then enjoy a drive through southern Ontario back to Detroit

    http://www.soto.on.ca/

    Hope this is helpful.

  • More on doing a Lake Erie Circle tour. I have not done this completely myself, but perhaps would like to some day.

    http://www.great-lakes.net/tourism/circletour/erie/

  • I would love to go to Cleveland and hang out with the freaks. See the town.

  • Im in cleveland day in and day out for work and you couldn't drag me there for anything extracurricular that wasn't sport related with one exception. I do love the museums and the university area. One of my favorite cleveland restraunts is in university and the other is on nearby coventry. As for the rest of cleveland...Fuck that place.