Camp Goff
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None of these prospects are sure things/cant miss. Like most first round qbs who aren't those once every 5-10 years qb, they may end up very good...ok...or pretty bad. We'll just have to wait and see. What we don't need to wait and see to know, however, is that many of the people in these threads proclaiming how much a sure thing is some of these guys will or won't be don't know what the heck they are talking about.
Nobody, even people who make tons of money to do this crap, have any idea whether the #6 prospect at this point will be better than the #14 prospect.....to act as if one is definately better than other in the nfl is absurd.
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None of these prospects are sure things/cant miss. Like most first round qbs who aren't those once every 5-10 years qb, they may end up very good...ok...or pretty bad. We'll just have to wait and see. What we don't need to wait and see to know, however, is that many of the people in these threads proclaiming how much a sure thing is some of these guys will or won't be don't know what the heck they are talking about.
Nobody, even people who make tons of money to do this crap, have any idea whether the #6 prospect at this point will be better than the #14 prospect.....to act as if one is definately better than other in the nfl is absurd.
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None of these prospects are sure things/cant miss. Like most first round qbs who aren't those once every 5-10 years qb, they may end up very good...ok...or pretty bad. We'll just have to wait and see. What we don't need to wait and see to know, however, is that many of the people in these threads proclaiming how much a sure thing is some of these guys will or won't be don't know what the heck they are talking about.
Nobody, even people who make tons of money to do this crap, have any idea whether the #6 prospect at this point will be better than the #14 prospect.....to act as if one is definately better than other in the nfl is absurd.
None of these prospects are sure things/cant miss. Like most first round qbs who aren't those once every 5-10 years qb, they may end up very good...ok...or pretty bad. We'll just have to wait and see. What we don't need to wait and see to know, however, is that many of the people in these threads proclaiming how much a sure thing is some of these guys will or won't be don't know what the heck they are talking about.
Nobody, even people who make tons of money to do this crap, have any idea whether the #6 prospect at this point will be better than the #14 prospect.....to act as if one is definately better than other in the nfl is absurd.
So nobody knows, but you know there are no...
... but you do know that there has been a QB every 5-10 years.
Got it...
And FWIW, I share your opinion of your opinion...
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None of these prospects are sure things/cant miss. Like most first round qbs who aren't those once every 5-10 years qb, they may end up very good...ok...or pretty bad. We'll just have to wait and see. What we don't need to wait and see to know, however, is that many of the people in these threads proclaiming how much a sure thing is some of these guys will or won't be don't know what the heck they are talking about.
Nobody, even people who make tons of money to do this crap, have any idea whether the #6 prospect at this point will be better than the #14 prospect.....to act as if one is definately better than other in the nfl is absurd.
None of these prospects are sure things/cant miss. Like most first round qbs who aren't those once every 5-10 years qb, they may end up very good...ok...or pretty bad. We'll just have to wait and see. What we don't need to wait and see to know, however, is that many of the people in these threads proclaiming how much a sure thing is some of these guys will or won't be don't know what the heck they are talking about.
Nobody, even people who make tons of money to do this crap, have any idea whether the #6 prospect at this point will be better than the #14 prospect.....to act as if one is definately better than other in the nfl is absurd.
So should we wait around 20 years or so until we have the #1 overall pick, and another Elway or Luck falls into our lap? Hell, even Peyton wasn't a consensus #1.
We only need to guess right once, for a change.
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I'll admit I haven't watched much of Goff at Cal but from what I've read and the type of draft (no sure fire QB's) we have, he just reminds me/sounds like Matt Ryan. He's not necessarily the most gifted guy athletically, but he's smart and knows how to make the right reads.
It might not be much but I don't think I've seen the comp on here yet so I figured I'd throw it out there.
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Kid seems like a class act, but is he clutch?
does he have the "clutch gene"?
Stand pat at #2 and take bosa or goff, one will be available. lets get someone to build around who isn't a midget alcoholic.
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I'll admit I haven't watched much of Goff at Cal but from what I've read and the type of draft (no sure fire QB's) we have, he just reminds me/sounds like Matt Ryan. He's not necessarily the most gifted guy athletically, but he's smart and knows how to make the right reads.
It might not be much but I don't think I've seen the comp on here yet so I figured I'd throw it out there.
I'll admit I haven't watched much of Goff at Cal but from what I've read and the type of draft (no sure fire QB's) we have, he just reminds me/sounds like Matt Ryan. He's not necessarily the most gifted guy athletically, but he's smart and knows how to make the right reads.
It might not be much but I don't think I've seen the comp on here yet so I figured I'd throw it out there.
Good eye... that's the comp NFL.com came up with as well...
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/jared-goff?id=2555334
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Kid seems like a class act, but is he clutch?
does he have the "clutch gene"?
Stand pat at #2 and take bosa or goff, one will be available. lets get someone to build around who isn't a midget alcoholic.
Good question cause he has never lead his team to a big win in 3 years.Kid seems like a class act, but is he clutch?
does he have the "clutch gene"?
Stand pat at #2 and take bosa or goff, one will be available. lets get someone to build around who isn't a midget alcoholic.
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Cowboys might trade up to get Goff #1 via Mel Kiper
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I'll admit I haven't watched much of Goff at Cal but from what I've read and the type of draft (no sure fire QB's) we have, he just reminds me/sounds like Matt Ryan. He's not necessarily the most gifted guy athletically, but he's smart and knows how to make the right reads.
It might not be much but I don't think I've seen the comp on here yet so I figured I'd throw it out there.
Good eye... that's the comp NFL.com came up with as well...
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/jared-goff?id=2555334
Good eye... that's the comp NFL.com came up with as well...
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/jared-goff?id=2555334
Don't give me too much credit, I probably just read it there, forgot and claimed it as my own.
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Cowboys might trade up to get Goff #1 via Mel Kiper
Cowboys might trade up to get Goff #1 via Mel Kiper
Just don't see that happening...
The Boys only have 5 picks this year so I don't think they can afford spending their 2016 1st and 2nd (and that likely does not get the job done) to draft a player of the future. To do so would basically say they think they are close enough to stand pat and have Romo's healthy return put them over the top.
And their 2017 #1 is not going to be worth more than a low 2016 #2 in present value.
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None of these prospects are sure things/cant miss. Like most first round qbs who aren't those once every 5-10 years qb, they may end up very good...ok...or pretty bad. We'll just have to wait and see. What we don't need to wait and see to know, however, is that many of the people in these threads proclaiming how much a sure thing is some of these guys will or won't be don't know what the heck they are talking about.
Nobody, even people who make tons of money to do this crap, have any idea whether the #6 prospect at this point will be better than the #14 prospect.....to act as if one is definately better than other in the nfl is absurd.
None of these prospects are sure things/cant miss. Like most first round qbs who aren't those once every 5-10 years qb, they may end up very good...ok...or pretty bad. We'll just have to wait and see. What we don't need to wait and see to know, however, is that many of the people in these threads proclaiming how much a sure thing is some of these guys will or won't be don't know what the heck they are talking about.
Nobody, even people who make tons of money to do this crap, have any idea whether the #6 prospect at this point will be better than the #14 prospect.....to act as if one is definately better than other in the nfl is absurd.
Whats absurd is coming into a decent discussion and calling out a bunch of people for something they arent even doing....
Arent you the guy who's always saying "I told ya so" whenever you guess right?....yeah, you are......whatta dick
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I don't think Jared football will ever have a police helicopter searching for him.
He also knows how to work in the pocket.
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i'm in.
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One thing I like about Goff outside of the skills is how he brought California from being a laughing stock to respectable in three years. Going from 1-11 to 8-5 sure counts on a lot of other people, but also shows a lot about what he brought to the team. That directly translates into what we need in Cleveland.
One thing I like about Goff outside of the skills is how he brought California from being a laughing stock to respectable in three years. Going from 1-11 to 8-5 sure counts on a lot of other people, but also shows a lot about what he brought to the team. That directly translates into what we need in Cleveland.
I'd lay that more at the feet of Sonny Dykes. Guy is a wizard.
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only just now getting started watching these guys, but Im liking what I see of Goff.....Im all about D, but at this point, wouldnt mind if we tapped him.....looks good....
only just now getting started watching these guys, but Im liking what I see of Goff.....Im all about D, but at this point, wouldnt mind if we tapped him.....looks good....
I'm always weary of highlight reels because they are inherently biased, but I have to say...I'm pretty impressed. The things that impressed me are his ability to stand tall in the pocket under pressure, and the tremendous touch he has on the deep ball. Goff sees single coverage and he goes after it. I also like the escapability aspect of his game too. Now, he won't get confused with being Russell Wilson, but he displays enough pocket feel and mobility to get the job done. There were several throws that showed him standing tall while two or three guys rushed free at him, and he delivered strikes. Not only that, he wasn't just throwing bombs against lesser teams in single coverage. He hit some nice seam throws, slants, and some nice corner-timing throws in the red zone. I want to see more of his red zone numbers...that's where we really struggle.
For any of our QB prospects to even have a chance, we simply MUST get some better WR's. I love Benjamin as the #3, or possibly the #2, but we need more horse power. Everybody knows I'm I have a man crush on Josh Gordon, and I honestly think he has a good chance to play for us again. But I'm smart enough to know that we can't count on him, and our staff knows this too. We have to figure out a way to get some WR help, and if we're using the first rounder on Goff/Lynch/Wentz, I'm not sure we can go WR in the second round, as our defense is desperate for attention.
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only just now getting started watching these guys, but Im liking what I see of Goff.....Im all about D, but at this point, wouldnt mind if we tapped him.....looks good....
I'm always weary of highlight reels because they are inherently biased, but I have to say...I'm pretty impressed. The things that impressed me are his ability to stand tall in the pocket under pressure, and the tremendous touch he has on the deep ball. Goff sees single coverage and he goes after it. I also like the escapability aspect of his game too. Now, he won't get confused with being Russell Wilson, but he displays enough pocket feel and mobility to get the job done. There were several throws that showed him standing tall while two or three guys rushed free at him, and he delivered strikes. Not only that, he wasn't just throwing bombs against lesser teams in single coverage. He hit some nice seam throws, slants, and some nice corner-timing throws in the red zone. I want to see more of his red zone numbers...that's where we really struggle.
For any of our QB prospects to even have a chance, we simply MUST get some better WR's. I love Benjamin as the #3, or possibly the #2, but we need more horse power. Everybody knows I'm I have a man crush on Josh Gordon, and I honestly think he has a good chance to play for us again. But I'm smart enough to know that we can't count on him, and our staff knows this too. We have to figure out a way to get some WR help, and if we're using the first rounder on Goff/Lynch/Wentz, I'm not sure we can go WR in the second round, as our defense is desperate for attention.
I'm always weary of highlight reels because they are inherently biased, but I have to say...I'm pretty impressed.
I love Benjamin as the #3, or possibly the #2, but we need more horse power. Everybody knows I'm I have a man crush on Josh Gordon, and I honestly think he has a good chance to play for us again.
Right....highlight reels do show only the best....so its always good to watch the edited game tapes, which show every snap.....though you can still evaluate mechanics, footwork, progressions, etc on a highlight reel.....
Im all in on JG....my guess is that he'll show up and play well......Im with ya on Benji, he's definitely not a #1, so we need someone to fill that role and Im hoping its JG.....though Im sure we will tap another WR somewhere in the draft or FA
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